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Is it just me, or are the out of bounds rules implemented last year actually beginning to work?

matter7172

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I was mostly in favor of the changes made but didn't know how they work work in the real world. I was particularly pleased that getting someone in a collar tie and pushing them oob was recognized as a form of stalling but was skeptical that it would get called.

A year plus later, and I believe, for the most part, the changes have impacted wrestling in a positive way. I think there are less stoppages and less cynical wrestling going on. During the Penn State/Iowa match, one of the announcers (I forget if it was Gibbons or Johnson), remarked how quickly the match was going and how few oob stoppages there were.

I think it's trending that way and have to say I'm happy it is. I don't have any numbers to back it up, but that's my general, albeit anecdotal, impression. Thoughts?
 
My comment would be similar...though coaches and fans are still baffled by some of the inconsistency when they do go oob. In my opinion, it's not the refs fault...just the way the rules are written.

Some calls are obvious. Others, it's who do you ding...the guy doing the pushing, or the guy being pushed. When Tom Brands was interviewed at half-time of our dual, he mentioned some rules that needed cleaned up...I believe this is one of those rules.

So, I agree with you...just think it can go another step further.
 
IIRC, Tom was pretty clear that while the calls can be wildly different between refs, it wasn't their fault because of how the rules were written.

Maybe it is just me but I was snickering at the thought of Brands not blaming the refs. The #1 ref rider in all of college wrestling not blaming the refs..........did I just hear that??
 
I was mostly in favor of the changes made but didn't know how they work work in the real world. I was particularly pleased that getting someone in a collar tie and pushing them oob was recognized as a form of stalling but was skeptical that it would get called.

A year plus later, and I believe, for the most part, the changes have impacted wrestling in a positive way. I think there are less stoppages and less cynical wrestling going on. During the Penn State/Iowa match, one of the announcers (I forget if it was Gibbons or Johnson), remarked how quickly the match was going and how few oob stoppages there were.

I think it's trending that way and have to say I'm happy it is. I don't have any numbers to back it up, but that's my general, albeit anecdotal, impression. Thoughts?

Short answer is yes, the new OOB rules are helping to promote action. You can hear "circle back in" all the time being yelled now. Also agree with Roar, they can be tweaked to make it easier on the official.
 
Short answer is yes, the new OOB rules are helping to promote action. You can hear "circle back in" all the time being yelled now. Also agree with Roar, they can be tweaked to make it easier on the official.
We saw it in the Iowa/Penn State match, but is that all there is? Iowa/Penn State were going at it. But I would think many teams would still be running from Iowa and Penn State. I don't remember a discussion on less stalling until last Friday's match.
 
There's no stat for "Out-of-bounds stoppages per match", so we're left with our own observations and judgment, over time. Mine is that it has helped keep the guys in the circle.

Regarding the rule change...it was new in 2015-16, and surely will be reviewed after this 2-year cycle.
 
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