Is my enemys enemy my friend?
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Coach Dressler is right it would have made a good dual.
He can only blame himself it sure as hell is not Iowa or Brands fault they lost to ISU.
So they had some injuries but all teams have them and even with injuries letting div 11 team beat uou wtf do u expect. Dance did not bonous his man and ISU had a back up hwt and they didn't get anymore than a decision here.
If he has a bitch bitch with the NWCA they are the ones who set up this stupid deal to begin with.
He can only blame himself it sure as hell is not Iowa or Brands fault they lost to ISU.
So they had some injuries but all teams have them and even with injuries letting div 11 team beat uou wtf do u expect. Dance did not bonous his man and ISU had a back up hwt and they didn't get anymore than a decision here.
If he has a bitch bitch with the NWCA they are the ones who set up this stupid deal to begin with.
It's like he face-smushed Tom Brands after the whistle. Very low class indeed.
If Dresser has a legit gripe then he can speak his mind. There are some sayings about opinions though.
The whole orange bit was stupid. If it was a joke then I missed the punchline.
Some real second place problems goin' on here
The whole orange bit was stupid. If it was a joke then I missed the punchline.
Some real second place problems goin' on here
Weird, I was told that absolutely nobody cared and talking about it was equivalent to talking about Sasquach or the Lockness Monster..... BTW, did you catch that Coach Dresser referenced the exact same thing I did about the NWCA's Poll Committee and Process - lack of transparency and therefore lack of credibility???
I love this. Hilarious. The only positive about avoiding a VT-Iowa matchup is that a Gilman win over Dance would probably stick Nico with the 4-seed (with anything short of a Big 10 title). At least now a H2H win over Gilman gets him the no. 3
I know that Kevin Dresser was being very frank and thought Iowa was a bunch of "oranges". Can you fault him for saying so... if he felt that? If Tom Brands said the same thing about Virginia Tech... would we be laughing or say it's Tom Brands being... Tom Brands.
And then he (Kevin Dresser) said he'd come wrestle Iowa next season anytime, at Iowa with the one opening he has in his schedule. Iowa... schedule or "orange" out. I'm a bigger Kevin Dresser fan. He's my kind of guy. Balls to call people out and say exactly what he feels.
And then he (Kevin Dresser) said he'd come wrestle Iowa next season anytime, at Iowa with the one opening he has in his schedule. Iowa... schedule or "orange" out. I'm a bigger Kevin Dresser fan. He's my kind of guy. Balls to call people out and say exactly what he feels.
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Of course you are Amaloon but only because of your hatred for anything Iowa. Of course people can fault Dresser, and the level headed majority have so far. Could you really see Tom Brands call anyone at all a pu*** On a radio show? Then try to cover it up with fruit? I Expected nothing more out of you.
Damn...I was wondering where I recognized the prose and long paragraphs from
Kevin Dresser said it... WildMan. He has every right to say what he feels. And he said it. Don't take it... like he was calling you an "orange" or bat fruit. He was merely stating how he felt the process went. I know only what Kevin stated about how the process was conveyed to him to pick an opponent for his team to wrestle at the National Duals. I just liked that he had such strong convictions about Iowa. I found them to be humorous. It was a good laugh.
No. You would be calling him low class and a black eye on the sport of wrestling. Anything to further the Iowa hate, eh? Dresser wants to get his name and program into the limelight and figures challenging Brands will get him into Carver somehow. If I were Tom, I would Fedex him a box of oranges with an autographed team picture from Carver.
Kevin Dresser was stating that he thought Brands was a pu***. He even said it before he brought up his wifes fruit. My question is, would you ever see Tom say that about another coach or team on a radio show/podcast? Kevin's comments as a Head coach for a big time D1 school are a disgrace to the University.
Tom is not a member of the NWCA. Kevin was certainly out of line. It's OK to say that even if you hate the Hawkeyes.
No... I'd invite him to Carver for that match... show him who Iowa is compared to his program... and shut him up that way. You wouldn't be getting any more rebuttal from Kevin Dresser.
And what better way to promote wrestling? I'd rather see a Virginia Tech Dual against Iowa than NC State as an opponent. I don't think Iowa beats Virginia Tech.
Dresser's primary complaint - e.g., the non-transparency of the "Selection Process" by the Coaches Committee of the NWCA. Dresser says that he, along with all the participating conferences, were told that the pairings would be made by the Poll Committee considering all information including all of the national polls, not just the NWCA Poll. Dresser says the topic came up on the Conference Call to determine the pairings after Missouri lost to NC State - Dresser claims that PSU - Okie State was a unanimous selection by the NWCA Coaches Committee. He said that Iowa - VaTech was vocally supported by the majority of coaches and that none of the coaches on the committee advocated for a NC State - Iowa matchup.....yet that is what was announced to his surprise by the NWCA. Of course Dresser has a legit complaint if the Coaches Committee agreed on VaTech - Iowa and then subsequent to the Conference Call the NWCA announced Iowa - NC State based solely on the NWCA Poll when the NWCA committed to Conference participants that final "Selections" would not be made solely on NWCA Ranking, and that all national dual rankings would be considered, at the start of the season when this structure was agreed to.
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Of course he had an issue with it... and expounded on his reasons why he thought that original agreement didn't stick.
The NWCA has some inflated opinion of itself. For years they have been promoting this national duals concept and for years it has proven less than supported by major D1 programs including ours. In my opinion, they have been trying to inject their influence, and not to better the sport (witness attendance at previous national duals) but out of megalomania. The topper is when they proposed a team point component at nationals for winning the national duals, which is total horse hockey. Want a national duals champion, wrestle Penn State against Iowa THIS year, and every year hereafter, rest in peace NWCA.
If I were Dresser's AD, I certainly could. He would be in my office in the morning, explaining his responsibility to represent the university.
Dresser has legit beefs on several counts with the "transparency" of the NWCA. First, they should have disclosed the ballots of all coaches to all other coaches, so each of the 12 coaches could understand precisely how NC State finished ahead of VaTech by a very thin margin (they both finished ranked between 4th and 5th) - what was each team's ranking if you threw out their highest and lowest rankings for instance (e.g., the "outliers")?
Second, Dresser says that the agreement at the start of the year was that the 12-man Coaches Committee would use all information and national dual polls to make an informed decision regarding the selections, not make the pairings simply on the NWCA Poll. I would assume Dresser knows what he is talking about here given that he was the ACC Representative on the NWCA Coaches Poll Committee!
Lastly, Dresser claims the Coaches Committee was in favor of VaTech - Iowa, not NC State - Iowa, when they had their Conference Call post the Missouri - NC State Dual. He says a majority of the Committee advocated for VaTech - Iowa, while no coaches advocated for Iowa - NC State. Then subsequent to the Conference Call, the NWCA unilaterally went by the NWCA Poll standings to make the pairings despite committing that they would not do this???
I think hard feelings go way back. Maybe Brands feels that Dresser could have tried harder to convince the V-Tech AD to release the wrestlers back in the day. Imagine if DT had only gotten three seasons out of petulance from ISU.
I would have rather seen Iowa wrestle these teams in this order: Mizzou, V Tech, NC State.
I would have rather seen Iowa wrestle these teams in this order: Mizzou, V Tech, NC State.
NC State lost the ACC regular-season Championship to VaTech on Friday before the NWCA Coaches Selection Committee Conference Call and the NWCA ACC automatic bid to the "Dual Tournament Bowl Pairings". Mizzou had just lost to NC State on Sunday before the NWCA Coaches Selection Committee Conference Call. NC State was, IN FACT, one of two "at large" selections by the NWCA Coaches Selection Committee for the "National Duals Bowl" setup (Iowa State being the other at large Selection - the NWCA gave both PSU and Iowa automatic bids as they tied for the B1G regular-season Dual Meet Championship).
IOW, your order of Missouri being in front of VaTech as the #2 Non-B1G Team is ridiculous.
Glad you wrote all that (even busted some caps didn't you) but I simply stated who I wanted Iowa to wrestle. Most Iowa fans wanted revenge on Mizzou from last year. Ease up on the caffeine, bruh.
Gee, I didn't realize that's how the "Selection Process" was supposed to work, bruh - I thought the NWCA Selection Committee was supposed to use all available information, including all national polls, to match the #2 b1g team, Iowa, with the #2 non-b1g team (which Dresser, a member of the Committee, says was supposed to be VaTech based on the Selection Committee's Conference Call).
Iowa-Mizzou -- Flapgate II, The Flappening
Do you always take yourself this seriously? Screw the NWCA committee, I want what's best for the fans. I am a committee of one.
As Brands said in a recently released statement, is if "there is any real controversy with the national duals, it's that Iowa should be wrestling Penn State for the national championship."
Brands could have made that dual happen just as Cael did in 2013-2014 - in fact Cael attempted to make it happen, but Brands choose not to schedule the dual as non-conference dual meet. Brands choose not to make that dual happen so his complaint is rather ironic.
Would Brands call another teams coach a pu***? Anywhere? Podcast, radio, TV?
Just ticky-tacking a point you used.
Metcalf and the others spent a year at Virginia Tech using their red-shirt options. Then when they transfered without a release, they had to sit a year. Effectively causing a lost year.
Since DT never enrolled at ISU. So without his release he would have had to sit a year but I believe he still would have had 4 years available to him.
So what? Has nothing to do with whether Dresser has a legit beef with the "National Duals Bowl" organizers, the NWCA. To the extent that pairings were changed subsequent to, and relative to what was discussed on, the Selection Committee's Conference Call, it would suggest that somebody lobbied the NWCA to make the changes. Apparently, Dresser feels confident that he understands the circumstances of how the pairings were revised and how the NWCA came to do something that they repeatedly committed they would not do - including a commitment prior to the start of season when the structure was being discussed and commitments were made by the member conferences - namely, a commitment that the NWCA Organizers would not rely solely on the NWCA Poll when making pairings for the event and would consider all information available including the other nationally-recognized "Dual Strength" polls & rankings (this only makes sense due to the inherent conflict of interest in participant coaches voting in a poll).
I would assume he has a better basis for his conclusions than most given that he was the ACC's NWCA Representative and actually actively participated in all elements of the process he is commenting upon. OTOH, the NWCA has been extremely non-transparent as to how the process worked or in addressing any of Dresser's legitimate complaints and concerns - go figure?!?!
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So because he has a beef with the NWCA, his response is to call Brands a pu$$y? You'd think before making such a statement he must have knowledge of Brands directly lobbying against a VTech match?
My patent application was shorter than this.
Sorry, Azchief, but you lose the "war of words", 81% to 19% to FRTT.
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