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Is your enjoyment of this team's success enhanced by ESPN's reaction to it?

Is your enjoyment of our success bolstered by ESPN's reaction to it?


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Because mine really, really is.

Knowing PSU's success on the field and classroom this year is going over as well as a enema for espn analysts gives me a hop in my step everyday getting out of bed. You can tell is just sticks in their crawl to have to discuss PSU now. It's their worst nightmare that PSU is relevant and in the college football playoff picture. While their school the 'Cuse flounders aimlessly at sea once again.....
 
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Not really. I can't say I pay enough attention to ESPN to know what they're saying.
I generally don't either. But even with the small sampling of non-Penn State games I've tuned into, I've managed to catch their announcers whining about our rank.
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I generally don't either. But even with the small sampling of non-Penn State games I've tuned into, I've managed to catch their announcers whining about our rank.
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Mostly it's a 'time' thing - just don't have as much of it; even casually. A two year old and a one month old will do that to ya :).
 
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Here's a better question.... Would ESPN dare bring College Gameday to State College again? God I hope so. I can only imagine how creative the Signs will be.
The ultimate would be if they someday came to State College again (I personally don't want them there ever again, or at least until there is a public apology), and just have everyone boycott being there. Just let them sit there and broadcast with no one behind them. That would really make a statement on many levels.
 
Here's a better question.... Would ESPN dare bring College Gameday to State College again? God I hope so. I can only imagine how creative the Signs will be.

Next season will be interesting... PSU should be quite high in the polls and any games at PSU (Michigan for example if they are high in the polls) could have them looking to bring game day.
 
Not if, but when that day comes. I say forget any signs, the absolute best statement would be for NO one to show up. That would truly be For the Glory!!!!

Either that, or everyone who shows up is wearing khakis (with the cuffs rolled up), a white shirt with a tie, and a JoePa mask; they all stand silently and motionless, just staring at the talking turds.
 
It would be great to have our buddies, the Gameday crew bring their traveling freak show to campus again. Howard can personally insult everybody face to face. They can all crap on the fans and the program right on the sidewalk in front of the BJC while our delusional fans who "still don't get it" in their white-out clothing hoot and holler and hold up signs like "Herbie I want to marry you" and "Corso for President." They can bring Giger and Jones up on the panel to spew their endlessly negative ravings too. That would be really great and imagine the wonderful exposure it would bring to our toxic situation. Can't wait.

Truly, the SID or Barbour or somebody with the authority should exclude them permanently from campus but that won't happen so they'll be back eventually. When they do, I favor the completely vacant backdrop, but that'll never happen either. If they have to come here PSU should set them an area aside up around the deer pens, around 500 ft into the woods.
 
It would be great to have our buddies, the Gameday crew bring their traveling freak show to campus again. Howard can personally insult everybody face to face. They can all crap on the fans and the program right on the sidewalk in front of the BJC while our delusional fans who "still don't get it" in their white-out clothing hoot and holler and hold up signs like "Herbie I want to marry you" and "Corso for President." They can bring Giger and Jones up on the panel to spew their endlessly negative ravings too. That would be really great and imagine the wonderful exposure it would bring to our toxic situation. Can't wait.

Truly, the SID or Barbour or somebody with the authority should exclude them permanently from campus but that won't happen so they'll be back eventually. When they do, I favor the completely vacant backdrop, but that'll never happen either. If they have to come here PSU should set them an area aside up around the deer pens, around 500 ft into the woods.
I suggest the pig pens.
 
Because mine really, really is.
I think you are way too cynical. I really don't think there is as much hate from ESPN as people think. For comparison purposes, I listen to a number of handicapping podcasts and most of those guys have us power ranked in the 20's to 30's. These are guys that don't care about the BS - just about getting bets right. A lot of them fully admit that they don't even look at the polls.
 
I think you are way too cynical. I really don't think there is as much hate from ESPN as people think. For comparison purposes, I listen to a number of handicapping podcasts and most of those guys have us power ranked in the 20's to 30's. These are guys that don't care about the BS - just about getting bets right. A lot of them fully admit that they don't even look at the polls.
Say what you will. I've heard them complain about our ranking firsthand, and it tastes delicious.
 
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I think you are way too cynical. I really don't think there is as much hate from ESPN as people think. For comparison purposes, I listen to a number of handicapping podcasts and most of those guys have us power ranked in the 20's to 30's. These are guys that don't care about the BS - just about getting bets right. A lot of them fully admit that they don't even look at the polls.

If they think PSU belongs in the 20's or 30's in power rankings, I doubt they're getting their bets right.
 
If they think PSU belongs in the 20's or 30's in power rankings, I doubt they're getting their bets right.
They are pros. They get it right more often than not. In fact, at least 3 of the guys I listen to picked PSU to cover vs OSU.
I do have to make one edit. I said "30's", but actually that was one guy who put us around 30 (before the Iowa game). I haven't heard any updates this week, but I would think that PSU has been upgraded by a few points.
 
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If they think PSU belongs in the 20's or 30's in power rankings, I doubt they're getting their bets right.

If you look at the totality of our season, you could rank us 20 to 30, sure. But if you look at how we are playing now, there is no doubt that we are a Top 10 team. The main difference? The youngsters on both side of the line of scrimmage have grown up.

I believe the Michigan game was the last game Derek Dowery started at guard who was playing...uh....sub optimally. I believe ProFootballFocus' college team also had Bates' grade as one of the worst guard in the country up until that point. Gaia was still really struggling at center. Since then, of course, McGovern was put into a starting role and named Big Ten offensive freshman of the week (one of three OL with that honor in last 10 to 15 years or so), Gaia has really surprised with how well he is playing, and Bates is really playing well also. Mahon, until he was injured, was named twice by PFF as the top tackle in the country based on that week's game film.

On defense we had the top 7 linebackers injured for the Michigan game, and the defensive line was still trying to figure things out after losing 3 NFL draft picks. Now we've seen them hold Ohio State in check except for one long run, and kept a power running team in Iowa to 30 yards rushing. 2nd in the Big Ten in sacks. Run three deep across all the units, rotating in and keeping everyone fresh.

You're looking at a whole new ball game here.
 
Not really. I can't say I pay enough attention to ESPN to know what they're saying.

you are exactly correct. As I've gotten older, I appreciate the notion that you are not defined by the observations and comments of others. Everybody has a different walk, different shoes to fill and a different starting line. Its not about what you've failed to do, its about what your tried to do and what you accomplished. I honestly look at these talking heads as the drunk next to you at BW3 on a Saturday afternoon. It is just a time waster.
 
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They are pros. They get it right more often than not. In fact, at least 3 of the guys I listen to picked PSU to cover vs OSU.
I do have to make one edit. I said "30's", but actually that was one guy who put us around 30 (before the Iowa game). I haven't heard any updates this week, but I would think that PSU has been upgraded by a few points.
gotcha....what are they saying about the PSU vs Indiana game?
 
If you look at the totality of our season, you could rank us 20 to 30, sure. But if you look at how we are playing now, there is no doubt that we are a Top 10 team. The main difference? The youngsters on both side of the line of scrimmage have grown up.

I believe the Michigan game was the last game Derek Dowery started at guard who was playing...uh....sub optimally. I believe ProFootballFocus' college team also had Bates' grade as one of the worst guard in the country up until that point. Gaia was still really struggling at center. Since then, of course, McGovern was put into a starting role and named Big Ten offensive freshman of the week (one of three OL with that honor in last 10 to 15 years or so), Gaia has really surprised with how well he is playing, and Bates is really playing well also. Mahon, until he was injured, was named twice by PFF as the top tackle in the country based on that week's game film.

On defense we had the top 7 linebackers injured for the Michigan game, and the defensive line was still trying to figure things out after losing 3 NFL draft picks. Now we've seen them hold Ohio State in check except for one long run, and kept a power running team in Iowa to 30 yards rushing. 2nd in the Big Ten in sacks. Run three deep across all the units, rotating in and keeping everyone fresh.

You're looking at a whole new ball game here.

Totally agree. And that is what makes it interesting. Does trajectory play a part? Do early games really count less than later games? Injuries? Should one look at the totality of the season? How about a team that goes undefeated except for one game, that game when a start player was out with a concussion?

I think PSU can hang with everyone, right now, in the USA with the only exception being Alabama and UM. I think they are just too physical for us, but we wouldn't get blow out.
 
gotcha....what are they saying about the PSU vs Indiana game?
Only one guy commented and he liked Indiana (ATS). I tend to agree with him. I have a feeling this game is going to be tight. FWIW, I'm feeling solid wins against Rutgers and MSU (maybe even a blow out of MSU).
 
No. I don't watch their awful channels, I don't listen to their crappy radio shows, I don't read their terrible website, and I don't read their worthless magazine.

The only time you'll see me consuming ANYTHING ESPN is when PSU plays on one of their cable channels.
 
gotcha....what are they saying about the PSU vs Indiana game?
Royboy, since you seemed interested, I did hear from a few guys later last week that both had upgraded PSU in their power rankings. Both guys that I like - one used to be a big part of the Phil Steele mag. The wise guys are not all totally sold yet, but a few are definitely getting on board. We'll see what they say this week.

The first part of my prediction was right - hope the next 2 are as well - solid wins vs Rut and MSU.
 
I think you are way too cynical. I really don't think there is as much hate from ESPN as people think. For comparison purposes, I listen to a number of handicapping podcasts and most of those guys have us power ranked in the 20's to 30's. These are guys that don't care about the BS - just about getting bets right. A lot of them fully admit that they don't even look at the polls.
If they have had PSU that downgraded, then their guidance has certainly influenced some folks to bet the wrong way, as PSU has won the last 6 vs the betting line.
 
I don't want ESPN or Gameday anywhere near State College ever again.
I don't either, but I absolutely LOVE the idea of boycotting it. Maybe you could have one person standing there with a recording of crickets chirping to enhance the message.
 
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