Joe Pa's letter written in Dec 2011

[Nittany Ziggy]

I still want to go with the tattoo!

 

[toddbrewster]

I care about a whole lot of things, but not about Sandusky or getting him a new trial. I think your contention that the only way to restore Joe's legacy is to have a new trial for Sandusky is fundamentally flawed. Every time I see your name as the most recent poster in a thread, I know what the subject matter of your post is gonna be even before I read it. Why do YOU care? Are you related to Sandusky?

Lafayette, in what way do you think my contention is flawed? Right now people think that everyone in PA thought Jerry was a pedophile and did not want to bring attention as it would hurt the football program.

A new trial:
1. Brings to light people at 2nd Mile and DPW with pros paid to spot a pedophile did not think Jerry was one.
2. Joe let his grandchildren play at Jerry's house after Joe was told the rumor.
3. There was no eyewitness and the janitor who's hearsay got Jerry convicted testified it was not Jerry.
4. "Victims" who wanted to testify for Jerry met with Shubin reneged and were paid $3 mil by PSU.
5. Joe was fired not because he tried to cover up, but because BOT members had a vendetta against him.
6. Police and lawyers on tape in cahoots on how to coach the victims.
7. Contradictions in victims testimony.
8. Joe had C&S get testimony from Mike and deemed it unreliable.
9. Joe asked and was reassured Mike was happy with follow up investigations.
10. Mike continued to socialize with Jerry's 2nd Mile projects.

Best scenario - an objective jury feels Jerry crossed boundaries, but there was no sex involved.
Worse scenario - new evidence comes forward proving Jerry had sex with a kid or two.

Either way the country knows Joe did the right thing.

If guilty, Jerry dies in jail. If not guilty, Jerry life is still ruined, but he is free.

Without a trial, Joe will forever be known as the man who looked away. How would you feel if after Jerry's death a victim feels remorse and admits he and others lied? Can you live with yourself or will you rationalize your way out of it?

 

[LafayetteBear]

[QUOTE="toddbrewster, post: 601613, member: 13761"Lafayette if you were falsely accused and rotting in jail would you want someone fighting for you?[/QUOTE]

Yes, IF I was falsely accused. That's a big if. If your contention is that all of the victims/witnesses lied, that's one hell of a lot of lying.

Edit: Actually, I'm pretty sure that, if I was rotting in jail, I would want someone fighting for me whether I was falsely accused or not. I would want to get out, and I would likely be steadfastly maintaining my innocence whether I was innocent or not.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Lafayette, in what way do you think my contention is flawed?

I am not a litigator, but I am an attorney and I have participated in a number of trials. One reason litigants settle just prior to trial is that you never know what is gonna happen once the trial starts. I do not intend to demean you or your post, but I had to chuckle when I read your conclusory statements about the factual findings that would inevitably result from a new trial of Sandusky. I can tell you that it would almost certainly not go down in the manner you anticipate. What if he was found guilty again? That is not at all a remote possibility, regardless of what you might believe. My belief is that it is a likelihood.

It seems to me that you tend to predicate Joe's innocence on a finding of Sandusky's innocence. But you don't seem to acknowledge that Sandusky's conduct (and culpability) and Joe's conduct (and culpability) are two entirely distinct things. Sandusky could conceivably be guilty as hell and Joe could nevertheless be entirely innocent of wrongdoing. That is in fact my opinion of things here.

 

[toddbrewster]

Thank you for responding and you did not offend me. I am saying the perception right now is, IMO 15% of the country feels Joe did all he could at the time, 60% Joe did what he had to do legally but not morally and 25% of the country feels Joe looked the other way. IMO 95% of the country feels Jerry is guilty. I think this follows most of the thinking on the board and at other blogs.

Another trial, three scenarios - IMO Jerry innocent 25% (there may be some minor charges, but time served). Jerry guilty, remains in prison, but charges reduced – 50%. Jerry guilty, same sentence – 25%. Again you would know more about this than me.

However, no matter if Jerry is found guilty or innocent. IMO after the trial, 60% of the country would feel Joe did all he could do. There will always be those who hate Joe no matter what.

Maybe I built Joe up in my head, but I feel Joe would have met the challenge head on, if he though C/S/or S were sweeping this aside. It makes the most sense that Jerry was weird, but was truly trying to help kids like his father before him. Yes, it is possible that Jerry is guilty and took advantage of someone. However, if I was a pedophile, I would have tried his foster kids and adopted kids, because they were most vulnerable, trusting and obligated. And I don’t believe Matt at all. IMO these kids are heroes, because they could have gotten money very easily.

If you offered me $100 million, I would not lie about someone. When I was in my mid-20’s, living in Hell’s Kitchen and I was offered $1 million, I would ask how loud do you want me to sing. These “victims” were troubled kids who felt they got kicked in the teeth through no fault of their own. I felt the same way, so I understand.

 

[Dungeon Yankee]

Even with his dying words, it was not about him. It was about his players, the men they became, and the school and community that he loved.

What a complete contrast with our BOT. It is only about them, throwing the university, the alumni, football, administrators, and everyone under the bus to protect themselves.

Joe sought to build people, a university, and a community up, even while he was in the lightning rod of the media frenzy. The BOT only looked for cover.

In their own words and in their deeds, when the pressure was on, Joe was bigger than himself and the BOT was a collection of small and feeble cowards.

The actions of both are why we stand behind Joe and why he will forever be a Penn State hero.

It is a matter of time until many of the deceptions of small and feeble cowards are revealed and it has already been revealed the character of a man named Joe who gave away millions, lived humbly, walked to work, and changed lives.

agree