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Joel's taking it hard

All of that is fine but we have to set realistic expectations here
This is a home game that we're expected to win
If/when we do win it--we're expected to beat Boise State
It's not a bad thing for players to understand expectations--they have to perform but they should go in confident because they're significantly better. SMU shouldn't be in the playoff is we're looking for the best 12 teams--a loss isn't okay here and I don't think we'll have to worry about losing.

Lando, that mentality is a recipe for disaster.

SMU is a good team. So is Boise State. We don't win by showing up. We don't win by expecting to win. We win by playing hard for 60 minutes and not taking anything for granted...to include the quality of our opponents.

That's true whether we're playing Bowling Green...or Purdue...or SMU.

Alabama lost to Vanderbilt and got trampled by Oklahoma. There've been 25 other similar upsets this year of supposedly superior teams by teams of lesser caliber. It can happen. Let's just make sure it doesn't happen to us in two weeks.

As it is, we're favored by roughly a touchdown. That's a fairly modest spread. Not the stuff of blow-outs.
 
Lando, that mentality is a recipe for disaster.

SMU is a good team. So is Boise State. We don't win by showing up. We don't win by expecting to win. We win by playing hard for 60 minutes and not taking anything for granted...to include the quality of our opponents.

That's true whether we're playing Bowling Green...or Purdue...or SMU.

Alabama lost to Vanderbilt and got trampled by Oklahoma. There've been 25 other similar upsets this year of supposedly superior teams by teams of lesser caliber. It can happen. Let's just make sure it doesn't happen to us in two weeks.

As it is, we're favored by roughly a touchdown. That's a fairly modest spread. Not the stuff of blow-outs.
Saban had epic Rat Poison rants with the media to combat the issues with expectations and always being better than the opponent on paper.
 
Lando, that mentality is a recipe for disaster.

SMU is a good team. So is Boise State. We don't win by showing up. We don't win by expecting to win. We win by playing hard for 60 minutes and not taking anything for granted...to include the quality of our opponents.

That's true whether we're playing Bowling Green...or Purdue...or SMU.

Alabama lost to Vanderbilt and got trampled by Oklahoma. There've been 25 other similar upsets this year of supposedly superior teams by teams of lesser caliber. It can happen. Let's just make sure it doesn't happen to us in two weeks.

As it is, we're favored by roughly a touchdown. That's a fairly modest spread. Not the stuff of blow-outs.
It's not - do you think Georgia goes into games not understanding their expectations
Good teams based on what?
Everyone is expected to show up and play hard--again, that's an expectation
Bama lost games they shouldn't have--that doesn't mean we aren't expected to win
Why do you and others hate the fact there's expectations for this team this year?
We should win easily. A TD spread in a playoff game is huge.
The only first round game that one team isn't fully expected to win is Ohio State-Tennessee
Just like Texas is expected to win 2 games
Accept that we're ranked 4th and we're expected to beat everyone other than Oregon, Georgia and Ohio State with Texas and ND being a toss up.
 
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Lando, that mentality is a recipe for disaster.

SMU is a good team. So is Boise State. We don't win by showing up. We don't win by expecting to win. We win by playing hard for 60 minutes and not taking anything for granted...to include the quality of our opponents.

That's true whether we're playing Bowling Green...or Purdue...or SMU.

Alabama lost to Vanderbilt and got trampled by Oklahoma. There've been 25 other similar upsets this year of supposedly superior teams by teams of lesser caliber. It can happen. Let's just make sure it doesn't happen to us in two weeks.

As it is, we're favored by roughly a touchdown. That's a fairly modest spread. Not the stuff of blow-outs.
Actually we are favored by 8.5, which is a pretty sizeable spread.
 
He says Oregon would have been better off taking a dive in the 4th quarter rather than winning and ending up with the playoff draw it got in comparison to undeserving Penn State. Tweet linked below.

LOL. I'm loving all this pissing and moaning from the talking heads. And I can only imagine the conversations taking place inside Big-10 board rooms:

Wait, what??!! Penn State was supposed to get screwed over. How did this happen??!!

Don't worry, boss. We'll fix it with the officiating assignments in their next game. On second thought, I forgot, the crews are neutral for playoff games.

Wait, what??!!


He also says the committee "manipulated the process" to get SMU in. Imagine pretending that the committee hasn't manipulated the process every year to get their "desired result." 🤡🤡

 
I am also enjoying Finebaum and Saban crying a river over Bama not getting in - well too bad they lost 3 games. They said they should water down the schedule - I guess Western Kentucky and USF aren't weak enough for them.
Yeah. This is the real secret.
At 4 teams, it was possible that a deserving team might not get in because of questions of schedule, pedigree, etc.
12 teams is sufficient that the bottom of the bracket isn't winning/deserving.

Hey Bama, we know you aren't the best team in the country -you're 4th in your conference. You deserve nothing. Maybe you're better than SMU-doesn't matter. You're 9-3 and 4th in you're conference.
 
Well I said "roughly a touchdown." Roughly means "approximately." That doesn't point to a blow-out.

I don't see this game as a gimme.
8.5 is a two score game, and more than our margin in both of our top 5 matchups.

The schedule after Minnesota gave us a nice reprieve from the hand wringers on this board, but are we really gonna do this "woe is me" schtick all the way up until January 9th? If so, I might need to take a break from the board and spend my time rolling around in all the student playoff tickets I stole.
 
I don't see this game as a gimme.
But the discussion was "expectation"
We have the best path any team could ever want. We have to take advantage of it
Maybe it would have been better if we got Bama because expectations would be lower but we're significantly better than SMU and Boise
The talent level isn't even close
These are games great programs win in a playoff
 
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Dallas area (where SMU is located) gets some nasty damp/bone chilling weather in late Dec - early Feb. Not comparing it to State College but let's not act like they haven't experienced lousy weather.
I think that one of Joe Montana's miracle come backs for ND was vs Houston in a freezing rain at the Cotton Bowl.

A big part of the advantage is that everything about a trip to Happy Valley is new for SMU. Weather is a major factor but so is being in a familiar home game routine.
 
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8.5 is a two score game, and more than our margin in both of our top 5 matchups.

The schedule after Minnesota gave us a nice reprieve from the hand wringers on this board, but are we really gonna do this "woe is me" schtick all the way up until January 9th? If so, I might need to take a break from the board and spend my time rolling around in all the student playoff tickets I stole.

8 points was the margin ijn the Oregon game with us having the ball and a chance to tie in the closing minutes. It was a hard-fought and competitive game...and what I'm saying is that SMU could easily be the same. I mean, I'd be delighted if we dominate them but I'm honestly not expecting that.

I'm mystified as to why the totally sensible and ordinary position that SMU is a good team that must be taken seriously translates in your mind to a "woe-is-me" attitude. That's some serious mental gymnastics there. If that opinion is enough to drive you away from the board, then all I can say is your sensitivities are tender indeed.
 
But the discussion was "expectation"
We have the best path any team could ever want. We have to take advantage of it
Maybe it would have been better if we got Bama because expectations would be lower but we're significantly better than SMU and Boise
The talent level isn't even close
These are games great programs win in a playoff

Lando, there's a difference between confidence and arrogance. No coach in the world is going to tell his guys not to worry, they've got the game in the bag, their talent is so superior that all they have to do is show up.

SMU is a good team. We have to be ready for their best shot. Fans on a message board can indulge in poor-mouthing the opponent and looking ahead to the next game as though this one's a foregone conclusion, but players can't have that attitude and I'm pretty sure Franklin will see to it that they don't.

I've already said this is a should-win game. It's even a must-win game for Franklin and the program. But if we do win, it will count as a big win...a very important win. However, you're downgrading it in advance and in the same breath you're downgrading our possible next opponent, Boise State.

How about we take care of business against SMU before talking about Boise State or our supposedly easy path to the semi's.
 
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He says Oregon would have been better off taking a dive in the 4th quarter rather than winning and ending up with the playoff draw it got in comparison to undeserving Penn State. Tweet linked below.

LOL. I'm loving all this pissing and moaning from the talking heads. And I can only imagine the conversations taking place inside Big-10 board rooms:

Wait, what??!! Penn State was supposed to get screwed over. How did this happen??!!

Don't worry, boss. We'll fix it with the officiating assignments in their next game. On second thought, I forgot, the crews are neutral for playoff games.

Wait, what??!!

Im no Klatt fanboy but his main gripe seems to be that the rankings put too much emphasis on teams that made the conf championship instead of strength of schedule, number of wins over ranked opponents, etc.. He wants them to re-seed after first round of playoffs so the conf champs have the easiest path to the championship game. He doesn’t really slight PSU in this analysis. He thinks we earned our spot

 
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Lando, there's a difference between confidence and arrogance. No coach in the world is going to tell his guys not to worry, they've got the game in the bag, their talent is so superior that all they have to do is show up.

SMU is a good team. We have to be ready for their best shot. Fans on a message board can indulge in poor-mouthing the opponent and looking ahead to the next game as though this one's a foregone conclusion, but players can't have that attitude and I'm pretty sure Franklin will see to it that they don't.

I've already said this is a should-win game. It's even a must-win game for Franklin and the program. But if we do win, it will count as a big win...a very important win. However, you're downgrading it in advance and in the same breath you're downgrading our possible next opponent, Boise State.

How about we take care of business against SMU before talking about Boise State or our supposedly easy path to the semi's.

Yeah, when I was a youth coaches preached "humble conference".... be confident of your abilities and compete 100%, 100% of the time, but never believe that you can't get better or that you're better than anyone. You will play like you practice.... if you let the other guy outwork you, that's on you. Talent is important, but everybody at a certain level has talent - it's the guys who realize 100% of their full potential and talent that are the most successful. And there's only one way to realize your full potential..... and that's work at it, then work some more.
 
Im no Klatt fanboy but his main gripe seems to be that the rankings put too much emphasis on teams that made the conf championship instead of strength of schedule, number of wins over ranked opponents, etc.. He wants them to re-seed after first round of playoffs so the conf champs have the easiest path to the championship game. He doesn’t really slight PSU in this analysis. He thinks we earned our spot


The thing is, in the past I've found Klatt to be one of the better analysts and commentators on the sport...and in the past he's also generally been fair to Penn State.

But in the last few weeks he hasn't done us any favors, first by calling for Penn State to drop to #8 and then with his conniption on the committee's final rankings/seedings as reflected in my OP above.

In that Tweet he slams the committee and clearly implies that Penn State got an unfair break...though in the clip you posted he says that what he considers the committee's botch job is "not (Penn State's) fault." Very generous of Joel to note that.

What Joel and some of his media friends don't seem to get is that, speaking of "fault," the playoff seeding format with four conference champions getting the top-seeded byes is not the committee's fault. They didn't come up with it. They're having to work around it.

To my mind, there's an obvious two-step fix to the issue: A) change the format so that conference champions must be included in the 12-team field but not mandated to have the top four spots; and B) eliminate CCGs because they're overkill and only complicate the selection process.

Meanwhile, yup, poor Oregon. They're the best team but got the short end of the draw. Life can be unfair. Penn State fans have learned that the hard way over the years, which is why a lot of us aren't going to spend too much time feeling sorry for Oregon.
 
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Lando, there's a difference between confidence and arrogance. No coach in the world is going to tell his guys not to worry, they've got the game in the bag, their talent is so superior that all they have to do is show up.

SMU is a good team. We have to be ready for their best shot. Fans on a message board can indulge in poor-mouthing the opponent and looking ahead to the next game as though this one's a foregone conclusion, but players can't have that attitude and I'm pretty sure Franklin will see to it that they don't.

I've already said this is a should-win game. It's even a must-win game for Franklin and the program. But if we do win, it will count as a big win...a very important win. However, you're downgrading it in advance and in the same breath you're downgrading our possible next opponent, Boise State.

How about we take care of business against SMU before talking about Boise State or our supposedly easy path to the semi's.
How is it arrogance? You're making it into something it's not
Why do you keep saying SMU is a good team. What is that based on? They lost to both ranked teams they played.
AGAIN, we are EXPECTED to win the game--you and others making SMU out to be more than they our doesn't change that.
The next two are must wins--period.
You realize people are already saying "Penn State doesn't play a big game until the semis"--that's the national narrative not my narrative
Semifinals is a requirement not a hop. It's the easiest path anyone could ever get.
 
It's not - do you think Georgia goes into games not understanding their expectations
Good teams based on what?
Everyone is expected to show up and play hard--again, that's an expectation
Bama lost games they shouldn't have--that doesn't mean we aren't expected to win
Why do you and others hate the fact there's expectations for this team this year?
We should win easily. A TD spread in a playoff game is huge.
The only first round game that one team isn't fully expected to win is Ohio State-Tennessee
Just like Texas is expected to win 2 games
Accept that we're ranked 4th and we're expected to beat everyone other than Oregon, Georgia and Ohio State with Texas and ND being a toss up.
You're assuming a certain level of team maturity which may or may not exist
 
The thing is, in the past I've found Klatt to be one of the better analysts and commentators on the sport...and in the past he's also generally been fair to Penn State.

But in the last few weeks he hasn't done us any favors, first by calling for Penn State to drop to #8 and then with his conniption on the committee's final rankings/seedings as reflected in my OP above.

In that Tweet he slams the committee and clearly implies that Penn State got an unfair break...though in the clip you posted he says that what he considers the committee's botch job is "not (Penn State's) fault." Very generous of Joel to note that.

What Joel and some of his media friends don't seem to get is that, speaking of "fault," the playoff seeding format with four conference champions getting the top-seeded byes is not the committee's fault. They didn't come up with it. They're having to work around it.

To my mind, there's an obvious two-step fix to the issue: A) change the format so that conference champions must be included in the 12-team field but not mandated to have the top four spots; and B) eliminate CCGs because they're overkill and only complicate the selection process.

Meanwhile, yup, poor Oregon. They're the best team but got the short end of the draw. Life can be unfair. Penn State fans have learned that the hard way over the years, which is why a lot of us aren't going to spend too much time feeling sorry for Oregon.
I dont disagree with much of what you say except for one more that you and many others (on the board and in the talking head-gotta-have-a-take media. I agree conference champions get into the CFP but not a top 4 spot thought I think people are not recognizing that was set up when we had 5 major conferences and going from 4 to 12 is quite different so there was going to be an obvious adjustment after we actually go through it for real. But the part I actually disagree with runs counter to this agreed-upon point--'getting rid of CCGs.'

WIth 16 and 18 team conferences, we are going to see more 3,4, even 5 way ties for 1st place because with only 8 or 9 conference games, teams are not going to play nearly have the conference. This season things mostly worked out but there was nearly a crazy 4 or 5 team tie for 1st in the B12, we only got to the B10CCG because of our conference opponents winning % was higher than Indiana. If there is going to be a CFP spot at stake for the conference champion, it shouldn't come down to the 5th or 6th tiebreaker to determine that.
 
You're assuming a certain level of team maturity which may or may not exist
That's on the staff then
Regardless of what we want to say about how the players see things or feel about things...the fan base should be expecting wins against SMU and Boise then things play out however they do.
 
How is it arrogance? You're making it into something it's not
Why do you keep saying SMU is a good team. What is that based on? They lost to both ranked teams they played.
AGAIN, we are EXPECTED to win the game--you and others making SMU out to be more than they our doesn't change that.
The next two are must wins--period.
You realize people are already saying "Penn State doesn't play a big game until the semis"--that's the national narrative not my narrative
Semifinals is a requirement not a hop. It's the easiest path anyone could ever get.

SMU has 11 wins. The CFP committee ranks them 10th in the country. AP ranks them 12th in the country. ESPN FPI ranks them 13th in the country. And you ask how could anyone call them "good"? To call them anything other than good is either disingenuous or delusional.

Lando, the hard fact is that you have a long-established pattern going back years here of denigrating our opponents, downplaying wins against good teams as meaningless, and setting up heads-I-win-tails-you-lose equations where even a 1st or 2nd round playoff win cannot be counted as "big."

Also, I don't care about "narratives." First of all, narratives are often bullshit. Second of all, it's not clear to me that the "national narrative" is the one you claim. That's your narrative...and I disagree with it.
 
SMU has 11 wins. The CFP committee ranks them 10th in the country. AP ranks them 12th in the country. ESPN FPI ranks them 13th in the country. And you ask how could anyone call them "good"? To call them anything other than good is either disingenuous or delusional.

Lando, the hard fact is that you have a long-established pattern going back years here of denigrating our opponents, downplaying wins against good teams as meaningless, and setting up heads-I-win-tails-you-lose equations where even a 1st or 2nd round playoff win cannot be counted as "big."

Also, I don't care about "narratives." First of all, narratives are often bullshit. Second of all, it's not clear to me that the "national narrative" is the one you claim. That's your narrative...and I disagree with it.
SMU is like Indiana. They've shown nothing other than beating teams that aren't good. That's reality. We've gone through this for years now. This board thinks winning games against bad teams makes you good. There's very few good teams each year. Almost none outside the P2 and ND.

I don't. I'm honest about our opponents. Just like my expectation was we'd lose the two games we did and I'm impressed in how we played.

The narrative is "Penn State doesn't even have a big game until the semis".

To be all playoff games are big wins but it doesn't mean we aren't supposed to win and that SMU and Boise State are on our level.

When is the last time we won a game we weren't supposed to win?

I think we win 2 rounds because these are the games he does win
 
I dont disagree with much of what you say except for one more that you and many others (on the board and in the talking head-gotta-have-a-take media. I agree conference champions get into the CFP but not a top 4 spot thought I think people are not recognizing that was set up when we had 5 major conferences and going from 4 to 12 is quite different so there was going to be an obvious adjustment after we actually go through it for real. But the part I actually disagree with runs counter to this agreed-upon point--'getting rid of CCGs.'

WIth 16 and 18 team conferences, we are going to see more 3,4, even 5 way ties for 1st place because with only 8 or 9 conference games, teams are not going to play nearly have the conference. This season things mostly worked out but there was nearly a crazy 4 or 5 team tie for 1st in the B12, we only got to the B10CCG because of our conference opponents winning % was higher than Indiana. If there is going to be a CFP spot at stake for the conference champion, it shouldn't come down to the 5th or 6th tiebreaker to determine that.

I take your point but I think mine carries more weight...well in my mind at least. Haha!

If you have teams tied at the top of the conference standing, then go to some obvious tiebreakers, chief among them overall record and head-to-head competition.

Here's the thing: this year there were four teams tied at the top of the Big-12 so you had to go to tiebreakers anyway just to determine who would play in that league's CCG.

And if two conference teams are truly of almost equal excellence and high national ranking, they're both likely to make the playoff cut anyway...and it's the playoffs that really count...not the CCG.

I just think these CCGs have outlived their usefulness and in the current format, when you get an upset, as happens with some regularity, the committee has to scramble to pick up the pieces while trying to be "fair" at the same time.

All this said, again, I do see your argument and agree it has some merit. It's just that I think the arguments on the other side have become more compelling.
 
I still think we're overcomplicating this per usual

Is the expectation nationally for Penn State to beat SMU?
Is the expectation nationally for Penn State to beat Boise State?

If so, why do we hate that? Most fans bases complain they aren't given enough credit. People here do all the time but when we actually have expectations people get angry and pretend other teams are better than they are in case we lose they can excuse it.

We have to win the next two games
Just like Day has to win the next four.
 
I don't want to hear about. Having a bye followed by three games HAS to improve your odds of winning out. The odds of winning four games is low and NFL history proves it. Wild card super bowl winners are something like 10%
Does the CCG count as one of the games? If so, Oregon will have to win four in a row in order to claim the NC.
 
Klatt hates Penn State like no other. He will be on this for another couple of days.

I respectfully disagree. I haven’t heard his latest show but, in general, I think he’s been fair to Penn St over the years.

I think the issue is that he tends to call things as he sees them and I think he’s in a ‘prove it’ attitude towards PSU after years of not winning the big games. I think sometimes that comes off as negative to PSU fans who see everything through blue and white glasses (as every fan base sees their team).

I do think he has reservations about Franklin’s ability to get the team to the next level. You could tell with his preview of the OSU game this year he saw it (paraphrasing) as ‘PSU has a chance but until you do it….’
 
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Yeah, when I was a youth coaches preached "humble conference".... be confident of your abilities and compete 100%, 100% of the time, but never believe that you can't get better or that you're better than anyone. You will play like you practice.... if you let the other guy outwork you, that's on you. Talent is important, but everybody at a certain level has talent - it's the guys who realize 100% of their full potential and talent that are the most successful. And there's only one way to realize your full potential..... and that's work at it, then work some more.
Very well said.
 
Lando, there's a difference between confidence and arrogance. No coach in the world is going to tell his guys not to worry, they've got the game in the bag, their talent is so superior that all they have to do is show up.

SMU is a good team. We have to be ready for their best shot. Fans on a message board can indulge in poor-mouthing the opponent and looking ahead to the next game as though this one's a foregone conclusion, but players can't have that attitude and I'm pretty sure Franklin will see to it that they don't.

I've already said this is a should-win game. It's even a must-win game for Franklin and the program. But if we do win, it will count as a big win...a very important win. However, you're downgrading it in advance and in the same breath you're downgrading our possible next opponent, Boise State.

How about we take care of business against SMU before talking about Boise State or our supposedly easy path to the semi's.
I am happy about the path we got and think we can beat SMU and then Boise State. We can't just "show up" though and expect to win. Franklin will make sure that doesn't happen.

The question of whether it is a big win over SMU and Boise is tricky. Going just by rankings and the simple fact that they are playoff games then yes for sure. Where the problem lies is that neither school carries the cache of being a strong football power from a good conference. Additionally we are pretty big favorites so everyone expects us to win. If we were playing a 3 loss Alsbama then absolutely a big game. Still, since it is a playoff game it is a big game.

Franklin needs to win this game vs SMU and I think win it to call the season a success.
 
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I am happy about the path we got and think we can beat SMU and then Boise State. We can't just "show up" though and expect to win. Franklin will make sure that doesn't happen.

The question of whether it is a big win over SMU and Boise is tricky. Going just by rankings and the simple fact that they are playoff games then yes for sure. Where the problem lies is that neither school carries the cache of being a strong football power from a good conference. Additionally we are pretty big favorites so everyone expects us to win. If we were playing a 3 loss Alsbama then absolutely a big game. Still, since it is a playoff game it is a big game.

Franklin needs to win this game vs SMU and I think win it to call the season a success.
Franklin does not "need" to do a damn thing other than get his team ready to play next Saturday at noon. His defense has some pride to defend, I would think, after giving up 45 points, and his team overall needs to play with discipline after literally throwing the game away with 60 plus yards of stupid childish penalties against Oregon. His wide receivers need to step up too.
 
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Franklin does not "need" to do a damn thing other than get his team ready to play next Saturday at noon. His defense has some pride to defend, I would think, after giving up 45 points, and his team overall needs to play with discipline after literally throwing the game away with 60 plus yards of stupid childish penalties against Oregon. His wide receivers need to step up too.
Okay he needs to do those things which will produce a W.
 
The thing is, in the past I've found Klatt to be one of the better analysts and commentators on the sport...and in the past he's also generally been fair to Penn State.

But in the last few weeks he hasn't done us any favors, first by calling for Penn State to drop to #8 and then with his conniption on the committee's final rankings/seedings as reflected in my OP above.

In that Tweet he slams the committee and clearly implies that Penn State got an unfair break...though in the clip you posted he says that what he considers the committee's botch job is "not (Penn State's) fault." Very generous of Joel to note that.

What Joel and some of his media friends don't seem to get is that, speaking of "fault," the playoff seeding format with four conference champions getting the top-seeded byes is not the committee's fault. They didn't come up with it. They're having to work around it.

To my mind, there's an obvious two-step fix to the issue: A) change the format so that conference champions must be included in the 12-team field but not mandated to have the top four spots; and B) eliminate CCGs because they're overkill and only complicate the selection process.

Meanwhile, yup, poor Oregon. They're the best team but got the short end of the draw. Life can be unfair. Penn State fans have learned that the hard way over the years, which is why a lot of us aren't going to spend too much time feeling sorry for Oregon.
Yeah I think Penn State has earned a favorable bounce or two from the CFB brass. I would also say that if CCGs are still going to be a thing, then at least reseed after the first round of the playoffs.
 
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Yeah I think Penn State has earned a favorable bounce or two from the CFB brass. I would also say that if CCGs are still going to be a thing, then at least reseed after the first round of the playoffs.

But people are making too big a deal of the seeding in regards to PSU. Based on the raw CFP Rankings, PSU is a 4-seed. The problem is giving #9 and #12 in the Final CFP Rankings a top 4 seed along with an Auto-Bid. The top 5 ranked conferences should probably get an auto-bid, but it's unnecessary to guarantee top 4 Conference Champions the top 4 seeds regardless of Final CFP Ranking. Actually, the whole 12-Team structure seems unnecessary to me - just go to 16 teams and give the 5 highest ranked Conference Champions auto-bids, then you don't have to argue about 11 and 12 - and if the 5th highest ranked Conference Champion is outside the Top 16 because of an upset in the CCG, then their eliminating a very marginal #16 ranked team in the Final CFP Rankings, not the #11 Ranked team. Just give the top 5 ranked Conference Champions autobids and Seed the 16 teams according to the Final CFP Rankings... then #1 plays #16 and the winner of 1/16 plays winner of 8/9 like a normal 16 Team Bracket (additionally, you have the advantage of allowing a full 16 teams in rather than this crazy structure only allowing 12 teams in and the #16 Ranked team kicks out the #11 Ranked team and the #10 and #12 Ranked teams get pushed to the #3 and #4 seeds artificially and the true #3 and #4 Ranked teams get pushed back to #5 and #6 and are forced to play 1 more game to win the Championship than the the #10 and #12 Ranked Teams??? Etc....)That makes zero sense from an objective and fairness standpoint.
 
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Its great to have ankle biters again. Of course, we have to win. SMU is no pushover. They are a team that deserved their playoff spot and will play hard and loose.
Go to YouTube and watch their games. Their ability to get their runners outside rivals Oregon. They have speed and about $150 million raised by rich alumni. Tom Allen has made excellent adjustments all year. I will expect defense to be much better. SMU is a tiny school with ample very rich yet stupid alumni. They will have excellent teams until this house of cards collapses. What do you call fans who help pay player salaries? Chumps.
 
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Go to YouTube and watch their games. Their ability to get their runners outside rivals Oregon. They have speed and about $150 million raised by rich alumni. Tom Allen has made excellent adjustments all year. I will expect defense to be much better. SMU is a tiny school with ample very rich yet stupid alumni. They will have excellent teams until this house of cards collapses. What do you call fans who help pay player salaries? Chumps.
How very Christian of you.
 
He says Oregon would have been better off taking a dive in the 4th quarter rather than winning and ending up with the playoff draw it got in comparison to undeserving Penn State. Tweet linked below.

LOL. I'm loving all this pissing and moaning from the talking heads. And I can only imagine the conversations taking place inside Big-10 board rooms:

Wait, what??!! Penn State was supposed to get screwed over. How did this happen??!!

Don't worry, boss. We'll fix it with the officiating assignments in their next game. On second thought, I forgot, the crews are neutral for playoff games.

Wait, what??!!

Well, this is how class shake out. I don't watch the NFL much anymore but going back to well maybe even seven years or 80s you might have a very strong team in one division. I think the one near the Eagles went to the Super Bowl they played a real close one against Dallas and they both might've been rated one and two in the NFC.

This is playoff football . And a funny thing as a Penn State fan I see a possibility that they could wait at all. I'd like them of course the win at least the first playoff game hell I want them to win them all but realistically they didn't make it the last time many years.
 
Who in the hell is Joel Klatt?
What does he know?

I, for one, have never believed a word that shit for brains has said.
 
Who in the hell is Joel Klatt?
What does he know?

I, for one, have never believed a word that shit for brains has said.
He has Penn State making the semis and thinks they can contend for a title primarily because of how Allar played on Saturday
He even said that us losing the way we did (down 18 and fighting back) was way more impressive than if we had won 13-9 because the question with us is always "can we score"
Klatt's not that bad--people just get upset when he doesn't think what they think
I think he was completely wrong saying we should have been the 8/9 seed but this is all opinion. He valued ND over us and then had Ohio State over us because they beat us--there's logic there even if I disagree with it.
 
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