Jonesy says JF might leave -- (don't shoot the messenger)

[JosephNit]

More of that media-generated buzz I was talking about: Dave Jones, everyone's favorite reporter, writes tonight (link below) that Franklin might well leave if the USC job comes open and is offered.

Turns out Jonesy put the question directly to JF this afternoon and believes what the coach did NOT say is significant.

Anyway, he claims that Helton's job is probably riding on the outcome of the ND-USC game. He then gives 10 reasons why Franklin might well take the position, if Helton gets the heave-ho.

Again, this is per Dave Jones -- not me. Take it for what it's worth. One thing for sure: the whole thing is a distraction we don't need a few days before what's shaping up to be a pretty big game.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...e_football_james_fran.html#incart_river_index

 

[WestSideLion]

Dave reads this board!

 

[PaoliLion]

Certainly sounds like a reasonable hypothesis. I suspected there’s only a few schools that Franklin would leave for and USC is a good bet to be in that category. I’m not going to lose sleep over it. We’ve hired two good coaches in a row and have good talent on the team. This is not a rebuild and we would be very well positioned to hire a great coach. Franklin has given PSU his all and deserves our respect no matter what happens.

 

[royboy]

More of that media-generated buzz I was talking about: Dave Jones, everyone's favorite reporter, writes tonight (link below) that Franklin might well leave if the USC job comes open and is offered.

Turns out Jonesy put the question directly to JF this afternoon and believes what the coach did NOT say is significant.

Anyway, he claims that Helton's job is probably riding on the outcome of the ND-USC game. He then gives 10 reasons why Franklin might well take the position, if Helton gets the heave-ho.

Again, this is per Dave Jones -- not me. Take it for what it's worth. One thing for sure: the whole thing is a distraction we don't need a few days before what's shaping up to be a pretty big game.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...e_football_james_fran.html#incart_river_index

why post this?

 

[NittanyOpp]

Davey trying to sell JF on leaving. I'm shocked.

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

More of that media-generated buzz I was talking about: Dave Jones, everyone's favorite reporter, writes tonight (link below) that Franklin might well leave if the USC job comes open and is offered.

Turns out Jonesy put the question directly to JF this afternoon and believes what the coach did NOT say is significant.

Anyway, he claims that Helton's job is probably riding on the outcome of the ND-USC game. He then gives 10 reasons why Franklin might well take the position, if Helton gets the heave-ho.

Again, this is per Dave Jones -- not me. Take it for what it's worth. One thing for sure: the whole thing is a distraction we don't need a few days before what's shaping up to be a pretty big game.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...e_football_james_fran.html#incart_river_index

I can list 10 reasons why Davey J. should move to Canada...

 

[Lion Lineage]

Franklin’s answer sounds like all of his answers when someone asks him about something other than the next opponent.

He’s being handsomely paid, has been recruiting lights out, is finally starting to see the kind of talent hit the field that he always talked about wanting/needing, and we’re to believe that he’s going to give up what he’s been building for (maybe) a little more money at a program who’s facilities (from what I’ve read) are not very good, and in an area he has no coaching/recruiting connections.

Moreover, while Helton’s team is struggling this year, his coaching staff has been recruiting really well (2018 composite ranking was 4th in the country), his contract has a massive buy out, and he just finished two back to back seasons of 10 and 11 wins.

Helton has only been the head coach (not interim) since 11/2015. So this is his third year as head coach and he’s going to be fired for one bad year? WTH?

 

[AWS1022]

Davey trying to sell JF on leaving. I'm shocked.

So he can turn around and do it with the next guy. Davey is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Jones is the only beat writer I've ever encountered who seems to hate the team he's assigned to cover. Dude, go be miserable elsewhere.

 

[PennState_one]

Jones is the only beat writer I've ever encountered who seems to hate the team he's assigned to cover. Dude, go be miserable elsewhere.

I think he tries entirely to hard to be non-bias... However, I am not familiar with his background or allegiance...

 

[berklion]

You don't get to shoot down dumbass dave more than once in a press conference. You'll be riding a split rail out of town

 

[Ian]

Fake news but Franklin’s name will always pop up. Wait till Saban steps down... but there are very few programs that Franklin will leave for. Bama, ND, Tex just to name a few.

 

[PearlSUJam]

Wait till Saban steps down

I'd hate to be the person that tries to fill those shoes.

 

[JeannieNeedsAShooter]

You’re trusting our BOT to make a 3rd good decision in 7 years? Looking back I’m still shocked they didn’t F up the coaching hires like they have everything else.

Certainly sounds like a reasonable hypothesis. I suspected there’s only a few schools that Franklin would leave for and USC is a good bet to be in that category. I’m not going to lose sleep over it. We’ve hired two good coaches in a row and have good talent on the team. This is not a rebuild and we would be very well positioned to hire a great coach. Franklin has given PSU his all and deserves our respect no matter what happens.

 

[danvillenit]

Why is there another thread about this

 

[Art]

ExlLax must have been working overtime to squeeze out that one.

 

[BudatPSU]

You need to be sitting in a salt mine whenever you read a Davey jones opinion, a few grains just will not handle it.

 

[dwiz]

Don't link his bullshit. Only putting fuel on the fire.

 

[PS4814]

Again, this is per Dave Jones -- not me. Take it for what it's worth. One thing for sure: the whole thing is a distraction we don't need a few days before what's shaping up to be a pretty big game.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...e_football_james_fran.html#incart_river_index

So why post and link the story then??? You can't claim "don't shoot the messenger" when you lob a grenade like this in the middle of a pile of kindling.

 

[CF LION]

What I got from that article..

1. Davey has traveled to LA a few times. I think he mentioned that more than once. Therefore he can feel the SoCal pulse.

2. Franklin is way too cool for Penn State.

3. Central Pennsylvanians are racist.

 

[ImaWright]

More of that media-generated buzz I was talking about: Dave Jones, everyone's favorite reporter, writes tonight (link below) that Franklin might well leave if the USC job comes open and is offered.

Turns out Jonesy put the question directly to JF this afternoon and believes what the coach did NOT say is significant.

Anyway, he claims that Helton's job is probably riding on the outcome of the ND-USC game. He then gives 10 reasons why Franklin might well take the position, if Helton gets the heave-ho.

Again, this is per Dave Jones -- not me. Take it for what it's worth. One thing for sure: the whole thing is a distraction we don't need a few days before what's shaping up to be a pretty big game.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...e_football_james_fran.html#incart_river_index

1) Davey boy is a POS Ohio St grad who is angry at life being resigned to cover the biggest threat to his alma mater.


2) Most here abide by the general rule to not link Pennlive or click on Pennlive articles. Their model is to attack our program and hope to dupe into clicks.


3) USC has had 4 coaching changes in the last 10 years. PSU has had 4 coaches total since modern football (1950). Coach knows this.


4) This is merely an attempt to distract from the program’s focus this week, in recruiting, etc. It’s fantasy and designed to inflict harm.


5) If USC 's coach is fired after 1 down year following a Rose bowl win season and then a PAC10 championship season, why would any coach want that job? One slip up and you are gone.

6) As Penn St fans, we need to be smart enough to understand that the media attempts to create the story. The media no longer reports news, it attempts to create it.


7) Maryland, Maryland, Maryland….

 

[interrobang]

What I got from that article..

1. Davey has traveled to LA a few times. I think he mentioned that more than once. Therefore he can feel the SoCal pulse.

.

Kind of like the story he did on Mike Watkins claiming he was an expert on poverty because he worked at a Boys Club in the ghetto for 2 years.

 

[NC2017]

Jones is the only beat writer I've ever encountered who seems to hate the team he's assigned to cover. Dude, go be miserable elsewhere.

Jones' bitter writing style is illustrative of an aging man who realizes both his career, and in fact his entire life, has been an overt failure.

 

[PSU Dave]

What I got from that article..

1. Davey has traveled to LA a few times. I think he mentioned that more than once. Therefore he can feel the SoCal pulse.

2. Franklin is way too cool for Penn State.

3. Central Pennsylvanians are racist.

What did I learn?
He's one chromosome short of a monkey.

 

[NittPicker]

If I write a totally speculative story, which by definition has no facts to support it, does that make me a journalist? And if I write multiple speculative stories about the same subject (Penn State football), does that mean I have some sort of agenda?

 

[lionville]

Davey dufus never passes up the chance to poke the PSU faithful in the eye. It’s usually by repeating someone else’s drivel because as we all know this dunce’s next original thought will be his first.

 

[delcoLion]

I'd hate to be the person that tries to fill those shoes.

Doubt it, easiest hire of all time. Dabo Swinney will come home to Alabama.

 

[ChiTownLion]

LOL. OP has 1 like. By @michnittlion.

 

[acg116]

1) Davey boy is a POS Ohio St grad who is angry at life being resigned to cover the biggest threat to his alma mater.


2) Most here abide by the general rule to not link Pennlive or click on Pennlive articles. Their model is to attack our program and hope to dupe into clicks.


3) USC has had 4 coaching changes in the last 10 years. PSU has had 4 coaches total since modern football (1950). Coach knows this.


4) This is merely an attempt to distract from the program’s focus this week, in recruiting, etc. It’s fantasy and designed to inflict harm.


5) If USC 's coach is fired after 1 down year following a Rose bowl win season and then a PAC10 championship season, why would any coach want that job? One slip up and you are gone.

6) As Penn St fans, we need to be smart enough to understand that the media attempts to create the story. The media no longer reports news, it attempts to create it.


7) Maryland, Maryland, Maryland….

Number five especially....for arguments sake, if franklin went 5-7 this year, what would be the odds of him getting canned? Zero.

 

[PearlSUJam]

Doubt it, easiest hire of all time. Dabo Swinney will come home to Alabama.

And if he loses 2 games his first season?

 

[PS4814]

If I write a totally speculative story, which by definition has no facts to support it, does that make me a journalist? And if I write multiple speculative stories about same subject (Penn State football), does that mean I have some sort of agenda?

I think with the current state of "journalism" that scenario would qualify you for a Pulitzer Prize .

 

[Nitt1300]

What I got from that article..

1. Davey has traveled to LA a few times. I think he mentioned that more than once. Therefore he can feel the SoCal pulse.

2. Franklin is way too cool for Penn State.

3. Central Pennsylvanians are racist.

I'm not clicking on the article, and can't comment on #1
#2- that's a matter of opinion
#3- not all of them, but it ain't SoCal now, is it?

 

[PSUArnie]

More of that media-generated buzz I was talking about: Dave Jones, everyone's favorite reporter, writes tonight (link below) that Franklin might well leave if the USC job comes open and is offered.

Turns out Jonesy put the question directly to JF this afternoon and believes what the coach did NOT say is significant.

Anyway, he claims that Helton's job is probably riding on the outcome of the ND-USC game. He then gives 10 reasons why Franklin might well take the position, if Helton gets the heave-ho.

Again, this is per Dave Jones -- not me. Take it for what it's worth. One thing for sure: the whole thing is a distraction we don't need a few days before what's shaping up to be a pretty big game.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...e_football_james_fran.html#incart_river_index

What an outstanding gig. Write articles based on discussions on message board and get paid for it. Congrats Davey boy, good job.

 

[PS4814]

I'd like to know if there are any other major programs whose local media folks are as consistently disparaging toward the "home town" team as ours.

 

[Nitt1300]

I'd like to know if there are any other major programs whose local media folks are as consistently disparaging toward the "home town" team as ours.

At least Ron Bracken retired

 

[PSU&Trout]

So why post and link the story then??? You can't claim "don't shoot the messenger" when you lob a grenade like this in the middle of a pile of kindling.

So why post and link the story then??? You can't claim "don't shoot the messenger" when you lob a grenade like this in the middle of a pile of kindling.

Maybe the kindling is the problem

 

[Kmase21]

Franklin’s answer sounds like all of his answers when someone asks him about something other than the next opponent.

He’s being handsomely paid, has been recruiting lights out, is finally starting to see the kind of talent hit the field that he always talked about wanting/needing, and we’re to believe that he’s going to give up what he’s been building for (maybe) a little more money at a program who’s facilities (from what I’ve read) are not very good, and in an area he has no coaching/recruiting connections.

Moreover, while Helton’s team is struggling this year, his coaching staff has been recruiting really well (2018 composite ranking was 4th in the country), his contract has a massive buy out, and he just finished two back to back seasons of 10 and 11 wins.

Helton has only been the head coach (not interim) since 11/2015. So this is his third year as head coach and he’s going to be fired for one bad year? WTH?

Lineage, you hit the nail on the head here. I've been saying the same thing... Couldn't agree more.

 

[AWS1022]

More of that media-generated buzz I was talking about: Dave Jones, everyone's favorite reporter, writes tonight (link below) that Franklin might well leave if the USC job comes open and is offered.

Turns out Jonesy put the question directly to JF this afternoon and believes what the coach did NOT say is significant.

Anyway, he claims that Helton's job is probably riding on the outcome of the ND-USC game. He then gives 10 reasons why Franklin might well take the position, if Helton gets the heave-ho.

Again, this is per Dave Jones -- not me. Take it for what it's worth. One thing for sure: the whole thing is a distraction we don't need a few days before what's shaping up to be a pretty big game.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...e_football_james_fran.html#incart_river_index

So one of the reasons he might leave is that the PSU faithful are unhappy, but he’s going to go to a place that wants to fire their coach after four years....got it.

 

[psugisher]

And if he loses 2 games his first season?

Still get in the playoff and win the national title?

 

[JayWye]

More of that media-generated buzz I was talking about: Dave Jones, everyone's favorite reporter, writes tonight (link below) that Franklin might well leave if the USC job comes open and is offered.

Turns out Jonesy put the question directly to JF this afternoon and believes what the coach did NOT say is significant.

Anyway, he claims that Helton's job is probably riding on the outcome of the ND-USC game. He then gives 10 reasons why Franklin might well take the position, if Helton gets the heave-ho.

Again, this is per Dave Jones -- not me. Take it for what it's worth. One thing for sure: the whole thing is a distraction we don't need a few days before what's shaping up to be a pretty big game.

https://www.pennlive.com/pennstatef...e_football_james_fran.html#incart_river_index

That’s about as dismal a take on life in Happy Valley as I’ve ever seen...up to and including...drum roll please...racism. Good grief. Also have never heard that James lacks backing from the heavy hitters. Beyond that, methinks Davey’s fallen into the “it’s-John-McKay’s-USC” trap...them days are gone forever...don’t care who the HC is.