Jonesy says JF might leave -- (don't shoot the messenger)
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Do you consider Rutgers “major”? Media in no is pretty rough on them. Not saying they don’t deserve it.
Does he have anyone that likes him enough to make him have to buy presents? Or does he just buy for himself?
This kind of thing makes me want to put my fist through a windshield:
7. Being an African-American coach might be easier in a large, diverse city.
I can tell you from being related to an African-American college football coach who worked at 7 different FBS schools and could get along with virtually anybody, it's a little harder for anyone of color in a high-profile occupation living in a small white-bread town in the middle of the wilderness than it is in the city. Racists pop up everywhere, in rural and urban settings, small towns and big cities. That includes southern California, as anyone who's lived there can attest.
I can't know how Franklin and his family feel about any of this and I won't speak for him here. But the greater diversity in any urban setting, such as that where the USC campus is located, might be more comfortable for anyone of color than an overwhelmingly white rural setting. Just saying, it could be a consideration.
Absolute and complete horseshit. Jones should be ashamed of himself. I've spent a TON of time in SoCal...If he thinks it will be easier to be an AA coach at USC than PSU, he's on drugs.I can tell you from being related to an African-American college football coach who worked at 7 different FBS schools and could get along with virtually anybody, it's a little harder for anyone of color in a high-profile occupation living in a small white-bread town in the middle of the wilderness than it is in the city. Racists pop up everywhere, in rural and urban settings, small towns and big cities. That includes southern California, as anyone who's lived there can attest.
I can't know how Franklin and his family feel about any of this and I won't speak for him here. But the greater diversity in any urban setting, such as that where the USC campus is located, might be more comfortable for anyone of color than an overwhelmingly white rural setting. Just saying, it could be a consideration.
Not really - thinking more of the "blue bloods / big dogs" in CFB - your teams like Texas, OSU, ND, LSU, etc.
Texas media was pretty rough on the horns when I lived in Austin. It also was during two down years which I’m sure would cause negativity around a lot of blue bloods.
You'd think so, but it depends on how much longer L'il Nicky hangs around in Tuscaloosa. Too long, and I can't even begin to predict how long that might be, and Dabo becomes so entrenched at Clemson that it's too difficult to leave.
Well there are people on this board calling for Franklin's head b/c of his record against OSU, UM and MSU and 3 losses this year (to all those three programs).
Ha! True, didn’t think about it in those terms. Although, I do think Sandy would do a good job with the search
Fox Sports reporting Jack Del Rio and Jeff Fisher are the names they are hearing for USC. Calm down people!
With respect to David Jones, I think he is bemoaning the lack of access he has with Coach Franklin. I think O'Brien gave him too much access, and Dave used it against him. I have to believe Bill warned James about that.
A big consideration, however, is that Coach has a young family. And, he might really like raising his family in this area.
I really think that Coach enjoys embracing the whole Penn State belief in the student-athlete. I just don't know if he'd be able to control it in an urban environment such as Los Angeles.
A big consideration, however, is that Coach has a young family. And, he might really like raising his family in this area.
I really think that Coach enjoys embracing the whole Penn State belief in the student-athlete. I just don't know if he'd be able to control it in an urban environment such as Los Angeles.
yep, he may just decide that enough is enough
I hope he stays, but if he leaves I wouldn't blame him one bit
Do not care what he thinks one way or the other.Family is very important to JF and state college is a great place to raise your kids.There may not be many any better anywhere.
With that buyout I don't see Usc rushing to push him out the door.Anything to sell papers and get clicks.Thats what it's all about and if it's generated by JF's agent what better way to keep your guy's name out there.Keep interest levels high.Chips for the next round of contracts.
JF has stated that his desire is to bring home a natty with PSU and until that time all the rest of this stuff is fodder.JF is building something here and do not see a way he will just give it up and move on.
Davey just can’t help but poking the bear...he’s been pretty quiet for a while now, so I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by this column. Whomever pissed in his Wheaties way back when really scarred him for life.
Sad thing is he’s had a couple of thoughtful, slightly interesting columns this season. Still, playing the racist card is pretty low - while there is likely some merit to rural American stereotypes, his insinuation has no place in this argument.
Sad thing is he’s had a couple of thoughtful, slightly interesting columns this season. Still, playing the racist card is pretty low - while there is likely some merit to rural American stereotypes, his insinuation has no place in this argument.
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If one of those losses is to the SEC equivalent to Cuse or Pitt the Bama fan base will be at his house with pitchforks and torches.
One thing is for sure....you certainly aren't seeing any rumors of Jones leaving for a better position to a place so rural.
Does anyone know where to find the audio referenced in the beginning of the article? Where Jones asks yes or no if he would be the PSU coach and Franklin "refused" to answer.
If he leaves for USC and goes 3-12 (or whatever) against Washington, Oregon, and Stanford then some USC fans will be calling for his head too. Same would apply to the coach at Texas, LSU, Georgia, etc. That’s the life of a head coach in D1 college football.
Jones is off the edge trying to use what wasn’t said to a question as the foundation for an article. The bottom line is there’s no opening at USC right now. They have a coach. To discuss that coach’s potential firing and engage in a back and forth with reporters about it would have been wrong.
That's the press conference. Jones references a question he asked later during the Big Ten Coaches Teleconference
I asked Franklin directly during his session on the Big Ten coaches teleconference on Tuesday: "Are you going to be the head coach at Penn State next season?" He paused and replied: "Excuse me?" I repeated the question. His response, following a forced laugh:
"This doesn't surprise me. Like I said in the [earlier Penn State beat writers'] press conference, speculation is everywhere. It's that crazy time of year. I'm focused on Maryland, no different than when I'm asked about injuries and all these other things. I'm happy to discuss Maryland or our football team."
I replied that it was a simple yes/no question and speculation would abate if he simply said yes, he would be the 2019 PSU head coach. His response:
"Yeah, I answered your question."
When he said "we" he meant the football team, not us message board folks. We on the message boards are on here because we are seeking distractions!
Exactly, take USC. Two years ago Helton beat PSU in the Rose bowl and was one of the best teams in the country at the end of the season. Last year Helton wins the Pac-12. Now they want to fire him a year later. Fans are nuts everywhere.
I disagree. Why not post the story?
The point is, it's become a story, and the Jones column underscores that fact.
It may be total BS. It may have a basis in reality. It may be something in between. But it's a story and a potentially important one this week.
So it goes away if nobody talks about it?
As for lobbing grenades, believe me, nothing posted here is going to have any effect at all on whether JF stays or goes.
Finally, somebody asked why start yet another thread on the topic, and that's a fair question.
Dave Jones, like him or hate him, is a major player in Penn State sports media and has national media connections. For that reason, I think the column last night is significant enough to rate a thread, which is not the same thing as saying it's right.
Personally, I found some of his 10 points way off-base while others I thought were on target. Either way, nobody is being forced to read the freaking thing.
In the end, as a Franklin guy myself, I really hope that either: A) The whole thing is Fake News from beginning to end; or B) Franklin views USC's reported interest simply as possible leverage to get some nice raises for his assistants.
However, after two or three days of buzz, you can no longer rule out: C) Jones is on to something.
Ridiculous. That is literally every fan base, For every team in every sport.
Wouldn’t be any better at USC ... In fact I’d wager it would be much worse. Again these are people (USC) who want to fire a guy 1 year removed from back to back 10 win seasons, Rose Bowl win and Conference championship.
What makes anyone think it would be different there ?
this notion that speculation would abate if he said "yes" is asinine. Jones knows that coaches' words on whether or not they are leaving mean nothing. He's playing a low rent rhetorical game that doesn't add any meaningful information to the story.
James Franklin was a hot commodity at Vandy. He was among the 5 or so guys mentioned for every top job. He wanted his next move to be The job. He could’ve went to an SEC power. If he wanted USC he could’ve waited for USC. He chose PSU. He wanted PSU and always considered PSU as the destination. You think he changed his mind just a few years later after what he’s building here?
He’s from PA. Did he and his wife not understand where PSU is located? I think not.
He came here because he wanted to be here. He is building something great, and will be here to see it through. USC will hire some washed up NFL coach.
He’s from PA. Did he and his wife not understand where PSU is located? I think not.
He came here because he wanted to be here. He is building something great, and will be here to see it through. USC will hire some washed up NFL coach.
I see you haven't gotten any smarter in the last day.
