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Jordan Stout - Va Tech kicker

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I saw a tweet about Jordan Stout getting a scholarship for Penn State.

I didn't see any posts about this on here yet. Maybe I missed it.

Does anyone know any details? It doesn't specifically say he is coming, from what I read. Just said he was offered a full scholarship, but his twitter account lists "We are". I would think that is a good indication he is coming.

Any word on existing kickers on the roster and how this would impact them?
 
below posted by GreginPitt (thanks!):

Penn State has offered a scholarship to former Virginia Tech specialist Jordan Stout, he announced on Tuesday evening. The sophomore specialized in kickoffs for the Hokies during the 2018 season, booming 60 touchbacks on 71 kickoffs.

He hit both of his field goal attempts in the Hokies’ spring game earlier this month. He was not on scholarship at Virginia Tech. Stout told 247Sports earlier this week that Penn State and Arkansas were the frontrunners for his services.

A Honaker, Virginia, native, Stout redshirted his first season in Blacksburg. He was a first team all-state, all-region and all-district selection as a senior at Honaker High.

The 6-foot-2, 197-pound Stout finished fourth in the country with 84.5 percent of his kickoffs going for touchbacks last season. He booted four touchbacks in his debut against Florida State last September. Stout can also punt.

Although he isn’t a grad transfer, Stout should be in line to have immediate eligibility at his new school thanks to a new rule passed by the NCAA earlier this month. According to the new rule which will go into effect in the fall, walk-on student athletes who transfer to new schools will not have to sit the customary season before competing.

The Nittany Lions have a new special teams coordinator in Joe Lorig, who has been aggressive in seeking out the nation’s top specialists since his arrival in Happy Valley this winter. Senior Blake Gillikin returns as the punter and likely as a repeat captain. Sophomore Jake Pinegar connected on 16 of 24 field goals last season and classmate Rafael Checa handled kickoffs. Checa finished the year with 37 touchbacks on 79 attempts.

"It's what I told the team the other day: The fastest way you can improve as a football team is in your special teams unit," Lorig said last month. "That's the fastest, easiest thing to improve, especially in a place like this where, as I said, it comes from the top down. I think I'm excited about the challenge."

Penn State was 84th nationally in kickoff return defense last fall. The Hokies were one of just four teams that allowed fewer than 10 returns last season.
 
It’s called The OFFICIAL TRANSFER PORTAL THREAD. Info was posted there last night.

I appreciate the info shared in this thread. If the transfer portal was strictly limited to PSU football players I'd visit more often - but instead it is used for athletes from all sports and even players from other teams with no connection to Penn State. Always good to know about potential additions.
 
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This could be a very nice pick up.

1st of all the obvious is the kick-offs. This guy puts about 85% of his kick-offs into the end-zone for touchbacks. Meanwhile our current guys is under 50%. Having the other team start at their own 25 after almost every kick off is a big advantage for the defense.

2nd, he also can punt. Sounds like he is not the world's greatest punter, but at least he can punt, which gives us a little safety net on the transition period after Gilliken. So next year, if we do not get this guy, then in all likelihood we are forced to go with a true FR to handle punt duties. This guy gives us the luxury of bringing in a true FR punter and having a competition.

3rd, he may actually be a better FG Kicker than Pinegar.
 
I appreciate the info shared in this thread. If the transfer portal was strictly limited to PSU football players I'd visit more often - but instead it is used for athletes from all sports and even players from other teams with no connection to Penn State. Always good to know about potential additions.
Agree....a tool I use is the search tool in the upper right hand corner. put in a player's last name or a unique (ish) word to see if you can find a post on it.
 
I saw a tweet about Jordan Stout getting a scholarship for Penn State.

I didn't see any posts about this on here yet. Maybe I missed it.

Does anyone know any details? It doesn't specifically say he is coming, from what I read. Just said he was offered a full scholarship, but his twitter account lists "We are". I would think that is a good indication he is coming.

Any word on existing kickers on the roster and how this would impact them?

Thanks for posting this info. Prevents some from having to wade through pages and pages of posts with the same cadre of folks bickering amongst themselves.
 
I never thought about the impact the portal would have on walkons that have no schollies. This is huge for them. I am happy that the rule is in place. I bet in a year or two we see a story referencing PSU and this kid explaining why most football programs now give full rides to kickers and punters!
 
Nothing worse than taking a lead late in the game, and having a kickoff go out of bounds. Pinning the team back is a huge help for the defense.

Which is why I've never been a fan of Franklin's philosophy of directional kickoffs. Yes yes I know it makes it easier to defend by only having to cover half the field, but the number of times we've had kicks go out of bounds really grinds my gears.
 
Which is why I've never been a fan of Franklin's philosophy of directional kickoffs. Yes yes I know it makes it easier to defend by only having to cover half the field, but the number of times we've had kicks go out of bounds really grinds my gears.

I could not agree more. He gets all pissed off when the kicker does't pin the ball near the corners, but that is not always easy especially with the conditions in Big 10 Stadiums. The downsides are 2 fold. If it is not kicked in the corner, our kickoff team is running to the corner and now they are out of position allowing for a relatively easy kickoff return to the other team. Secondly, the ball goes out of bounce a fair bit.
 
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Huge to have a kid who can almost automatically kick one through the end zone. Hopefully Gillikin can regain some consistency and we can flip the field and let our defense play downhill. Number one thing that can help an inexperienced qb is consistent good field position.
 
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Which is why I've never been a fan of Franklin's philosophy of directional kickoffs. Yes yes I know it makes it easier to defend by only having to cover half the field, but the number of times we've had kicks go out of bounds really grinds my gears.

+100. Never have been a fan of that philosophy. I agree it was probably the best thing to do in 2013 and 14 where we had walkon’s playing on ST but not since.
To be fair to Franklin that’s not just him I’ve read where other coaches have similar schemes. 1 was Urban.
 
+100. Never have been a fan of that philosophy. I agree it was probably the best thing to do in 2013 and 14 where we had walkon’s playing on ST but not since.
To be fair to Franklin that’s not just him I’ve read where other coaches have similar schemes. 1 was Urban.
Worked well for Urban when he kicked it to Barkley.
 
Which is why I've never been a fan of Franklin's philosophy of directional kickoffs. Yes yes I know it makes it easier to defend by only having to cover half the field, but the number of times we've had kicks go out of bounds really grinds my gears.

Most schools directional kick. In fact, PSU has given up some back breaking returns when the kicker mistakenly kicked it in the middle of the field and you don’t have a sideline to help contain. The 2016 Pitt 4th quarter KO that was returned to our ten comes immediately to mind.
 
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Most schools directional kick. In fact, PSU has given up some back breaking returns when the kicker mistakenly kicked it in the middle of the field and you don’t have a sideline to help contain. The 2016 Pitt 4th quarter KO that was returned to our ten comes immediately to mind.

Don’t care if most schools do it, still is a bad idea in my opinion for reasons stated previously, especially since we’ve had so many kicks go out of bounds - and at critical times - in many games. Like you said it was a mistake and the kickoff coverage didn’t plan on the ball going to the middle of the field. If the team planned to cover the middle of the field it’s unlikely said return occurs. And I’m not saying that every kick needs to be right down the center, but Franklin seems to want to go to the extreme with trying to put the ball as close to the sideline as possible.
 
Don’t care if most schools do it, still is a bad idea in my opinion for reasons stated previously, especially since we’ve had so many kicks go out of bounds - and at critical times - in many games. Like you said it was a mistake and the kickoff coverage didn’t plan on the ball going to the middle of the field. If the team planned to cover the middle of the field it’s unlikely said return occurs. And I’m not saying that every kick needs to be right down the center, but Franklin seems to want to go to the extreme with trying to put the ball as close to the sideline as possible.

Then it isn’t Franklin you have an issue with, but the majority of college football coaches who don’t understand the game as well as you do.
 
Then it isn’t Franklin you have an issue with, but the majority of college football coaches who don’t understand the game as well as you do.

Don’t tell me who I have a problem with - I don’t gaf about what other teams do - I care about coaching decisions like this one that have hurt the chances of the team winning games. If you’re ignoring negative results of his strategy of extreme directional kicking then you’re just being ignorant to the problem.
 
Don’t tell me who I have a problem with - I don’t gaf about what other teams do - I care about coaching decisions like this one that have hurt the chances of the team winning games. If you’re ignoring negative results of his strategy of extreme directional kicking then you’re just being ignorant to the problem.

LOL. “Extreme directional kicking”. Ok pal.
 
Look at these dummies who use the directional kickoff.

Urban Meyer has long used a style of kickoff -- part coffin-corner, part pooch kick -- that placed the ball inside the 10 to the left of the kick formation. The intended result is for the hang time to allow the kick coverage to get downfield, swarm that area and drop the returner near his own end zone. It's been highly effective in the past, with the Buckeyes -- also due in part to some excellent punting -- routinely being among the nation's best teams in opponent average starting field position.

Nick Saban....
Just look at the film from Alabama's 45-7 victory over Tennessee. On the two occasions Scott kicked the ball deep into the end zone to produce a touchback, he directed the ball toward the center of the field. On the other six kickoffs, when the ball landed just short of the goal line or a few yards past it, he aimed toward the left corner.

In four of those instances, Tennessee elected to execute a return, and three times the Volunteers were stopped short of the 25-yard line.

Of the 33 times opponents have returned Scott's kickoffs this season, they have started their ensuing offensive possession past the 25-yard line only seven times.

"The most important thing on kickoffs is placement," (the kicker) Scott said last month. "You want to get it closer to the corner, more like on the numbers because that's how our coverage is most successful, when we place it in that area. That's what I focus on the most. Obviously they want touchbacks but placement is most important."

That's especially true if the team kicking off is attempting to coax a return.

"I'm happy with the way our guys cover, and I have a lot of confidence in it and we've had a lot of tackles inside the 20," Saban conceded. "So our drive start for kickoff coverage has been very good. And sometimes it's probably been better when we haven't kicked it in the end zone

The Patriots took an aggressive, creative approach after the NFL, in 2016, adopted a new rule moving the touchback line five yards farther forward to the 25-yard line just as the NCAA did four years earlier.

"We'll see how it all plays out, but in looking at a few other games it looks like there are a lot of teams that are doing some of the directional, corner-type kicking with good hang time," New England coach Bill Belichick, Saban's former boss, said in September 2016. "Just kind of popping the ball up in the air and making teams bring it out, which isn't surprising."

Last season, only 72 percent of the Patriots' 93 kickoffs reached the end zone -- the seventh-lowest rate in the NFL.

The year before, when the touchback line was still the 20, 90.8 percent of their kickoffs crossed the goal line.

The kicker both seasons was Stephen Gotskowski

"I think getting the ball out to the 25-yard line is obviously harder than getting it out to the 20 and those touchbacks that put it on the 20," Belichick said. "I mean I know it's only five yards and five yards is five yards, but it just seems like it's a lot easier for teams to just touchback and put the ball on the 20, whereas now there's just a little more incentive to make them return it to the 25 as opposed to just handing them the ball on the 25-yard line."

 
You sound PO’d today - must be that SCC is looking like Lake Okeechobee today. :)


Mike - Cabin Fever! Seriously not PO’d, just seems like some (more and more) posters start a new post without looking to see if a similar or related post / thread already exists.

So been meaning to ask.....how is your recovery doing?
 
Mike - Cabin Fever! Seriously not PO’d, just seems like some (more and more) posters start a new post without looking to see if a similar or related post / thread already exists.

So been meaning to ask.....how is your recovery doing?
Okay days and great days. Getting around just fine - waded a river to fish with Dad 2 weeks ago. Walked 3+ miles tonight after PT this afternoon. Even took my first hop steps today.
 
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