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Justin Fields taking only online classes at O$U...

As the District Cyber School Coordinator for my school district, cyber school is not some easy-peasy, 2nd-rate thing. It takes work, maturity, dedand aication to get it done. There is a reason why Cyber Charter schools in PA have a 40% graduation rate.
Yes, because cyber charter schools have a self selected student population that is at risk. They are a second chance school for many due to one reason or another, or have a lot of kids that are unable to attend traditional school.
 
Why? IDK
Who would do that? Who’s “thinking the worst”?


Personally, I just prefer to be non-oblivious..... and let things “be as they be”.
Your post seemed to say that no one (the players) cares about academics. I tend to believe that the vast majority of D1, D2, and even D3 care about academics much, much more than NFL possibilities. They promised their families they would get a degree. Football is their tool, not the other way around.
 
Great.
Super
Sounds like a Mark Emmert / NCAA commercial.

Those folks, of course, were not the population that composed the topic of discussion. The discussion was pertaining to “blue chip football recruits”..... as was clearly defined.
Because emmert may grunt the same message doesn't make it less true. Even most blue chip athletes understand the value of an education. Those that don't embrace it do so at their own peril. We all know this.
 
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I’ve heard that he’s actually a very good student.
He was committed to Penn State at one point, so you'd think he probably was a good student. For gen ed courses distance learning wouldn't be so bad, but I'd think you'd want to take advantage of the high-quality faculty a school like tOSU probably has for upper-division courses by taking them in-person since it's paid for. Maybe he doesn't like to be seen around campus much.
 
Pardon my ignorance on this subject, but what prevents any "student" from cheating in an online class? How does the school verify that it isn't a parent or friend doing the exams or at least holding that student's hand during the process?
 
Pardon my ignorance on this subject, but what prevents any "student" from cheating in an online class? How does the school verify that it isn't a parent or friend doing the exams or at least holding that student's hand during the process?
I assume that exams are proctored and they make up the bulk of the grade.
 
Pardon my ignorance on this subject, but what prevents any "student" from cheating in an online class? How does the school verify that it isn't a parent or friend doing the exams or at least holding that student's hand during the process?
They require a proctor such as a librarian or someone in academia and you have to show ID. For the ones I've taken, they are sent the exams, you show up to take them, then they return the exams. If you are remote to the college and have connections who are dishonest, it would be possible to cheat. I took Math 140 distance ed and you had a lot of assignments to do and return. You could potentially cheat on those a little easier since you do the work and return it in an envelope (might be online today). But I'd guess they would compare exams with homework to make sure it looked like the same author. It would be fairly hard to cheat on the exams from my experience.
 
They require a proctor such as a librarian or someone in academia and you have to show ID. For the ones I've taken, they are sent the exams, you show up to take them, then they return the exams. If you are remote to the college and have connections who are dishonest, it would be possible to cheat. I took Math 140 distance ed and you had a lot of assignments to do and return. You could potentially cheat on those a little easier since you do the work and return it in an envelope (might be online today). But I'd guess they would compare exams with homework to make sure it looked like the same author. It would be fairly hard to cheat on the exams from my experience.

Thanks.

When I heard "online class" I had just assumed that this did not involve travel to an examination location.

Apparently there are testing services that claim they can use facial recognition and mannerisms (through some algorithm, I guess) to detect cheating, so maybe these human proctors will eventually become obsolete.

What will we do with all of these university buildings?
 
I heard that he stood on the kitchen table in his apartment and yelled "F her in the P!".
 
I believe someone has developed an on- line degree program that would cost $400 for the whole thing.
Regardless, the cost of a B.A. degree is absurd in this day and age.
e.g. why in heaven’s name should someone pay to hear a history lecture, when it can all be on-line.
These universities are the untold theives.
My son was forced to take 2 online courses last year at his college because they cancelled the traditional lecture style class. One would expect that it would be cheaper, nope, they actually charged more with a technology fee.

Can't wait for the day when market forces are finally brought to college education and most of these college administrators end up unemployed. Calling them thieves is to kind.
 
I agree for some courses but a little more difficult for courses with lab or field work. try public speaking in a virtual classroom.... difficult to ascertain audience feedback.
As a hiring manager I would be very hesitant to hire a graduate with only on line instruction. The opportunity to personally interact with others, mature and refine one's interpersonal skills would be severely restricted with on line courses only. 25 years ago one of my dept. staff completed a MS degree in Hazardous Waste Management from LSU. She met her professor and stepped foot on campus one time.... to receive her diploma. A virtual classroom can work but its like virtual sex. only a proxy and not quite as gratifying as the real thing.
Actually for many majors on-line only would work just fine, you may need some conference calls with advisors and professors to compliment it and possibly a large get together every semester. Typically this is the model used for many on-line advanced degrees in health professions. My sister-in-law got a PhD in Nursing this way.

Unless their is a black swan, we will never see on-line as a significant part of obtaining bachelors degrees on any kind of large scale. There is way too much money coming to the college system which employs way too many people who do not teach classes to ensure that the system does not allow wide-spread on-line bachelor degrees. If it ever becomes a threat they will pressure/bribe/extort the accreditation organizations...no accreditation then the degree is essentially worthless.

The beast has to eat.
 

Yep....You are wrong

https://www.espn.com/college-footba...-qb-justin-fields-went-unranked-espn-300-no-1


June, 2016: Fields receives offers from nine schools. As a testament to his academics as well as his athletics, Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt and Harvard are among the schools that offer him scholarships.

"Harvard was one of the first offers that [Fields] had," Tobey said. "I wanted him to go to Harvard, but he said, 'Mom that's not enough football for me,' so I said, OK what about Duke? That still wasn't enough football for him."
 
My son was forced to take 2 online courses last year at his college because they cancelled the traditional lecture style class. One would expect that it would be cheaper, nope, they actually charged more with a technology fee.

Can't wait for the day when market forces are finally brought to college education and most of these college administrators end up unemployed. Calling them thieves is to kind.

On occasion at PSU, a student may be forced into taking an online class, due to either no conventional class offered for that semester , or all the classes are full.
 
I don’t care what anyone says, there is no substitute for actual in class discussions and collaboration.

Also don’t these kids actually want to enjoy being a student. Strolling across campus, checking out the ladies and just generally enjoying the very unique atmosphere you get to be a part of for a very short period of time.
I agree with going to actual classes. In today’s world university’s are so money hungry they permit this online BS . There are several ways to cheat the system with online classes just ask any college kid taking them. PSU is guilty as well.
 
Pardon my ignorance on this subject, but what prevents any "student" from cheating in an online class? How does the school verify that it isn't a parent or friend doing the exams or at least holding that student's hand during the process?
Nothing absolutely nothing
 
I believe someone has developed an on- line degree program that would cost $400 for the whole thing.
Regardless, the cost of a B.A. degree is absurd in this day and age.
e.g. why in heaven’s name should someone pay to hear a history lecture, when it can all be on-line.
These universities are the untold theives.
Then again, maybe just maybe there is a happy medium between a $400 totally online education and a $50,000 on campus education at an exclusive private college...
 
My son was forced to take 2 online courses last year at his college because they cancelled the traditional lecture style class. One would expect that it would be cheaper, nope, they actually charged more with a technology fee.

Can't wait for the day when market forces are finally brought to college education and most of these college administrators end up unemployed. Calling them thieves is to kind.

Criminal.
 
Technology will create a sea change in education in the coming years. I agree with one earlier poster who said campii will change a lot. There is little need for a history or composition major to be on campus - virtually all written material is available on line. Then there is little need for faculty office space for those profs. So the physical plants for classic liberal arts programs should shrink. Then colleges will have more money to spend on programs where the kids have to be on campus - primarily the STEM students.

I think there are over a million kids who are home schooled right now. Technology will see this number increase.

Just like people who work from home, home study requires a lot of discipline.

Right now college is way too expensive for most. For many people the investment is worth it; for many people it isn't and is just a millstone around their financial neck for years.
 
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