It's only October 1st, and I want a reason to be optimistic. This is not about whether or not you think we will win out. It is about what are chances are, if we do.
Keg Half full Optomistic Poll
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Yes, but Ohio State owns the tie breaker because Michigan would have 2 losses & Ohio State beat us head to head.
Pretty sure that's not how it works. We're talking about winning the conference. ND isn't a conference loss.
I don't see O$U winning out... it is very likely they lose 2 games. PSU's D exposed them greatly.
We have to take care of our business, see how the rest plays out.
We have to take care of our business, see how the rest plays out.
If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 8 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step (or sub-step), the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative. If three or more teams remain tied after any step, move to next step in tiebreaker with remaining tied teams.
1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.
2. The records of the three tied teams will be compared within their division.
3. The records of the three teams will be compared against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5, 6, and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.
4. The records of the three teams will be compared against all common conference opponents.
5. The best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents.
(a) Example: East 1 non-divisional opponents are 20-7, East 2 non-divisional opponents are 19-8, East 3 non-divisional opponents are 14-13 - East 1 would be the representative.
6. The records of the three teams will be compared against the highest placed non-divisional teams in their division order of finish (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7).
(a) When arriving at a group of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group, rather than record against the individual teams.
(b) When comparing records against a single team or a group of teams, the record will prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e. 1-0 is better than 0-0, 2-0 is better than 1-0, etc.)
7. The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative.
8. The representative will be chosen by random draw.
b) If three or more teams are tied, steps 1 through 7 will be followed until a determination is made. If only two teams remain tied after any step, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the representative.
1. The records of the three tied teams will be compared against each other.
Scenario 4 is the best option as I don't believe scenario 3 to be realistic. OSU's remaining schedule is Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue, Nebraska, MSU (road), Maryland, Michigan (home).
Not exactly a murderer's row we're talking about here. An 11-1 PSU would be better off having OSU dominate the rest of their schedule, and thus giving PSU the ammo to say hey our only loss was to the (at worst) #3 team in the country by 1 point.
Not exactly a murderer's row we're talking about here. An 11-1 PSU would be better off having OSU dominate the rest of their schedule, and thus giving PSU the ammo to say hey our only loss was to the (at worst) #3 team in the country by 1 point.
Okay, so?
I think step 5 is where it will be decided.
5. The best cumulative conference winning percentage of non-divisional opponents.
(a) Example: East 1 non-divisional opponents are 20-7, East 2 non-divisional opponents are 19-8, East 3 non-divisional opponents are 14-13 - East 1 would be the representative.
Well obviously scenario 3 is the best but also the least likely. I think if we run the table we get it if the Buck's lose 1, and even have a chance if the Buck's go unbeaten.
We have the most difficult B!G schedule ahead with ahead, Mich, MSU, Iowa, Wisky, and even Md. The other guys all have a likely winless Nebraska.
So Bama is a given, likely Georgia, Clemson looks vulnerable, as does Oklahoma. If the Buckeye's lose one we only need one of those two to falter, if they don't we need them both to falter.
Having said all that I am still suspect of our front 7 on D to win out. I will be very interested to see how Franklin and the team react in the next two weeks and the MSU game. If we bounce back strong I will feel much better.
We have the most difficult B!G schedule ahead with ahead, Mich, MSU, Iowa, Wisky, and even Md. The other guys all have a likely winless Nebraska.
So Bama is a given, likely Georgia, Clemson looks vulnerable, as does Oklahoma. If the Buckeye's lose one we only need one of those two to falter, if they don't we need them both to falter.
Having said all that I am still suspect of our front 7 on D to win out. I will be very interested to see how Franklin and the team react in the next two weeks and the MSU game. If we bounce back strong I will feel much better.
I almost agree that scenario 3 is the best. However, part of me believes that if Ohio State were to lose 2 games the argument that the Big 10 is not that good would begin to creep into the discussion. Since the media loves Ohio State, I chose the option of a dominate OSU elevating the perception of Penn state. (BTW...I know the media doesn't have a say in the selection process)
