You just turned away Cenzo. He hesitated quite a bit before committing.
Kirkvliet commits to tOSU.
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in the traditional respects of recruiting, PSU and the Yuks run circles around the hawks.Past. Present. Future.
Come on give me a break. In the past no way cause if you had
you wouid have won more titles than you have..
Present yes have done outstanding job.
Future who knows maybe maybe not.
Come on give me a break. In the past no way cause if you had
you wouid have won more titles than you have..
Present yes have done outstanding job.
Future who knows maybe maybe not.
Are you comparing Kirkvliet to Jersey Kid? Seriously? You think Kirk is "flaky" and/or a transfer risk? You should probably just stop ...
apparently you didnt know but the past started in 2011.
A recruit that doesn't pick Penn State doesn't become less of a person.....less driven......less intelligent.....less mature......or less stable. Geez..... With the new rules......lots of athletes are going to be changing schools. He is a great kid and great wrestler who chose what he thinks is best for him. I wish him well......and you should too.
Time and unforeseen occurrences befall us all. Especially when you are young. I try to remember that as I age
I'll take what PSU and tOSU have recruited at the two Iowa transfer weights (133 and 149) any day of the week. 2018-19 Iowa may have a slight advantage (if any) because those kids have been college rooms for quite a bit longer, but it won't take long for those guys to overtake them IMO. If I had to pick fantasy draft style for a career:
133 - 1. RBY 2. Decatur 3. Teasdale (when he gets there) 4. DeSanto 5. Renteria (if he ever sees the lineup)
149 - 1. Sasso 2. Berge 3. Lugo
I can do the other weights for you if you would like...
I never put a lot of weight into the speculation that Kirkvliet would go to Penn State. Cael put a lot into getting Seth on board. A lot more than has been posted here. (legal, vodka, legal) At some point, you have to show that you have confidence in the guy you picked. What kind of a message do you send by saying "Hey, look who just became available. Let's make him a big offer and see if we can sign him up too!" And on top of that, Kirkvliet doesn't even know for sure that he could beat Seth. Seth is going to have a full year of training with guys like Nick, Cassar, Cael, Gwiz, Jake and yes, even Snyder who drops into the NLWC from time to time. (not to mention brother AJ when they get the chance to get together)
I think Kirkvliet made a pretty good and logical choice by picking Ohio State. Look at their record the last few years. (ignoring, of course, a few tournaments and one particular dual meet.) I'll bet that if the truth could be known, he changed his mind about Ok State because of their performance in last year's NCAA tournament.
I think Kirkvliet made a pretty good and logical choice by picking Ohio State. Look at their record the last few years. (ignoring, of course, a few tournaments and one particular dual meet.) I'll bet that if the truth could be known, he changed his mind about Ok State because of their performance in last year's NCAA tournament.
While I agree with most of what you wrote ( Good Job )……..I think it is pretty clear that after working out a lot with Snyder at the OTC......Snyder had more to do with getting Kirkvliet to Ohio State than any other factor.
Come on gang, the response and comparison was made as a result of an earlier post implying Kirk had not yet had his State college visit and if he does he might yet flip again to PSU. Yes, at the risk of hurting someone's feelings, I would call that a bit 'flaky'.
#1. I think Kerkvleit is going to be super tough and wish he would have chosen PSU. But Snacks is a great recruit as well.
#2. Kerkvleit chose tOSU I’m sure because he felt like that was the best place for him. No need to discredit the kid for doing what he thinks is best for him, also, no need to hate on him now because he chose the path he did.
#3. Between what Iowa has now and has coming in, they are real contenders in the future, just like us and tOSU. That’s good for our sport. I for one welcome the competition for PSU. It makes our sport’s main event (NCAA’s) that much more intriguing and marketable. We need that.
#4. This season might not be as competitive in the team race, and that’s cool as a PSU fan, but we shouldn’t get too comfortable. These other teams are getting big time recruits too. Bring it!
#2. Kerkvleit chose tOSU I’m sure because he felt like that was the best place for him. No need to discredit the kid for doing what he thinks is best for him, also, no need to hate on him now because he chose the path he did.
#3. Between what Iowa has now and has coming in, they are real contenders in the future, just like us and tOSU. That’s good for our sport. I for one welcome the competition for PSU. It makes our sport’s main event (NCAA’s) that much more intriguing and marketable. We need that.
#4. This season might not be as competitive in the team race, and that’s cool as a PSU fan, but we shouldn’t get too comfortable. These other teams are getting big time recruits too. Bring it!
On balance I think Kirk made the right decision. Yes we win big matches and national championships, but for someone who aspires to be a future world champ, in Kirk's case, wrestling Snyder every day Trump's Cael's coaching. I think we lost Spencer due to his being able to wrestle Gillman every day as well. Nico is gone so until or current generation of lightweights move through the program a couple of other programs have some cards at little stronger than ours to play at a few weights.
Unless Snyder leaves to go compete in MMA after 2020. He has hinted that MMA could be in his future
I don’t think Gilman factored in much at all for Lee.... Brands did.
Imo it’s not the wisest choice to base a selection on 1 single training partner. (If that’s what did indeed happen here, although remember that tOSU also has Tervel there as well)
Nonetheless best of luck to him at OSU. Going to be some fun battles in the near future
Only saw the "SIngletary to 197" thought from one fan, followed by another saying Singletary would have to lose a body part to make 197. More likely for Kirkvliet is some combination of OLY RS, RS, then compete with Singletary for the starting position. If my math is right, there might be one year of overlap.
Several more on 11 Warriors which, admittedly, is where a lot of their dopey Bucknut-wearing, Ped-State saying mouth breathers reside. Your timing hypothetical makes more sense
Your math is correct. I will say that the OLY RS or RS might be something that gets saved for later in the career, say for a 2024 OLY run. Any time there is this much possible overlap, you run the risk of the current guy leaving. Of course, Ohio State could also do what PSU is doing now and use a gray shirt in place of a RS for 2020.
Several more on 11 Warriors which, admittedly, is where a lot of their dopey Bucknut-wearing, Ped-State saying mouth breathers reside. Your timing hypothetical makes more sense
Ha, exactly. There are oceans of quality differences between ohiowrestling.net and 11W.
Nor is Hoffman a career 184.
But, hey, anything is possible if somebody else has to do it.
Just to highlight ^^ that the quote truncation perfectly captures this, so you see the Brutus mask shaking its head but can't see the face of the guy wearing the mask.Several more on 11 Warriors which, admittedly, is where a lot of their dopey Bucknut-wearing, Ped-State saying mouth breathers reside. Your timing hypothetical makes more sense
5 weeks away until he arrives! Give or take of course
I think Penn State lost Spencer when Iowa put two of their guys in the 57kg Olympic Team Trial finals. I'm sure it didn't hurt that they also had Gilman and a Clark on their roster as well, but I believe Lee committed the week after OTT.
I'll be pleased if Kirk continues to take his visits and flips again--he's got a lot to weigh, and I don't think it's fair to conclude he'll be anything but an awesome teammate. That said, it's definitely not bad for the sport if we don't get all of the top dawg 'cruits. Winning NCAA championships year after year is a lot funner when the prognosticators regularly pick other teams to come out on top.
I watched Singletary up close at Edinboro late last year. My guess is they aren't worried whether he loses the 50 or decides to move on. I guess he could turn it around this year, but I think this will be a audition for a new squad in a couple of years. Nothing wrong with that either. You go to tOSU, you take your chances that somebody better is coming in. Happens here as well.
Nice, so about 6 months until he gets his first taste of the WT. Rub a little on the gums when he starts to get those first teeth!
A little busy at work this morning, but I'll get to the weight-by-weight recruiting fantasy draft, I promise. Will be an interesting exercise.
You go to Penn State, you win big matches, you win team titles, that's what we do!
(Thanks for the setup!)
(PS, I agree on Singletary -- and so does the evidence -- Tan Tom was also after Schultz.)
As of right now, for the 2019-2020 season, he would not qualify for an Olympic red shirt, if using the same standards that were used in 2016. It looks like he would have to grey shirt to only have 1 year of overlap. It will be interesting just like it will be interesting on how they manage our bottom half of the lineup. Transfer rule will make a ton of difference for many athletes.
