The kickoff return to the App State 48 and the touchdown grab. All the hype was accurate. Passing game should revolve around him.
KJ Hamler Saved The Day
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There is an opening in the number one slot while JJs hands are missing.
He had some big drops. A couple drive killers.
I hope this was JJ’s worst game of the year
JJ was 6 for 67, which isn't bad stat wise, but the drops (was it 3 or 4?) could have had him around 9 for 115.
I don’t care how much of a freak athlete JJ is, if you can catch balls that hit you squarely in your hands then you can’t be the number one receiver.
4. Third down on the left sideline that would have moved the sticks. Third down where trace hit him up the middle. Deep down the left sideline where he alligator armed it and deep right on the sideline. Guess alligator arming it isn’t technically a drop?
Same thing with Iowa last year. Hard thing to think about in the heat of the moment.
Absolutely. I said In the game thread to let them score. And the missed tackle was the best thing that could have happened
you seem like a smart guy, but that is pretty much the stupidist thing I've read today, and that is saying a lot.
KJs first game very impressive!
Can’t wait for the one handlers next
Can’t wait for the one handlers next
A lot of young talent...they made mistakes as expected and will have growing pains, but there is definite talent on the field.KJs first game very impressive!
Can’t wait for the one handlers next
Hamler is going to be special. Johnson is a possession receiver. He does not get much separation and hands are suspect
Thompkins didn’t do anything which was surprising
Thompkins didn’t do anything which was surprising
I believe he had a 30+ yard punt return, which could have broken it to the house.
He shared a lot of time with Polk today. A lot more than he did last year. Don't remember #3 being targeted very much. Hopefully, Shorter can shed his walking boot and rise to the occasion and usurp this spot.
Or Hipo. Or CSB. Or Dotson. Or George.
Trace only had eyes for JJ most of the game. He needs to spread the wealth.
Perhaps that is who he developed the most trust in during camp.
Today show Hamler definitely deserves some trust. I thought it was a bad decision to come out of the end zone on the KO return but he made it look good. Solid hands on the TD catch too.
I was somewhat surprised he hesitated at all. Before the kick I was thinking that as long as it wasn’t kicked out of the end zone he wouldn’t hesitate. He was itching to bring one out all game.
Ummm, stormin’ is absolutely correct.... as soon as the App St runner crosses the goal-line, I immediately knew we’d at least have a shot...
you have never ever seen a player do this, because it has never happened, and no player can make that decision when he is trying to play football
if the coaches wanted to kick a FG, they should have had the qb take a knee for 3 plays
when you run a play, the players try to score a td
I seriously question if some of you guys have ever played FB beyond the flag football level
I can see both ends. In the heat of the moment, who gives up a guaranteed 6 for a shot at 3? The coach didn't call a FB Dive, so it's not like he was thinking such either.
Very iffy.
You’ve never seen a player go down instead of trying to score (or risk going out of bounds)? If the RB did that App State almost certainly would’ve won.
ok, you're right, and Hamler should have caught the ball and stayed out of the end zone so PSU could run off more clock before tying the game, since scoring with 40 seconds left game App State time to win the game - which they almost did
like I said, you guys need to think like a football player, not an overweight old college football fan
After watching the non-catch of JJ a lot, the defense may have been just enough. I know the ball hit JJ in the hands, but the momentum may have been thrown off just enough on that play to make a difference...we may never know...but none of us will ever be in JJ's situation either...at game speed it looked like the defender did just enough....and we have zero experience to back what we would do in the same situation because none of us have ever been in that situation....
You're way off on this. App St scoring a TD when they did is the only thing that gave us a chance to tie. It's undeniable that a better thing would have been for their RB to go down close to the goal line. Now that is very different than saying he should have thought about doing that or been coached to do that. But in hindsight, that almost certainly would have won the game for App St.
And your comparison to Hamler is off as well. At that point, PSU is losing. When you're losing, you score as soon as you possibly can because you never know if you're going to get another chance. For App St, the score was tied so foregoing a TD for a sure fire chip shot FG is not nearly as risky as Hamler purposefully not scoring a TD just to use up time when PSU is trailing.
You take the points when you can get the points. There is no guarantee that a team makes a kick, even if it is a chipshot. Any number of things could happen to make not scoring the worst decision of your life, a muffled snap, a block, a bad kick. You score the TD and then rely on your defense to do their job.
You may be right, but I wouldn’t be surprised if App’s coach is second guessing that right now.
Regardless, at the spur of the moment, you can’t blame the App player for taking it in.
I'm really not disagreeing with you. I don't think if you're App St in that situation you purposefully tell the kid "hey, if you break into the clear, fall down about the 3 so we can bleed the clock and kick a FG to win." But, had he done that, App St very likely wins. Would you rather take your chances on flubbing up a chip shot FG as time expires which would just lead to OT or give Penn State more than a minute and a half and 2 TOs to drive down, score the tying TD and then have all of the momentum going into OT? Honestly, I think a good argument can be made for either.
#1 It would be a rare occasion where a RB stops short of the goal line in that exact situation,
#2 The chip shot that you speak of reminds me of the Alabama game where Blair Thomas was getting 5 yards a pop and Joe runs the clock down for that chip shot you speak of. Kick blocked,Alabama wins.
