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NFL Mock Draft: Abdul & Warren Top 15, Allar & KJ should return.

Next year will be interesting. tOSU will be breaking in a new QB. Michigan may too. So will Oregon. We have a pretty good schedule:
  • Nevada
  • FIU
  • Villanova
  • @ Iowa
  • @ Sparty
  • @ tOSU
  • Indiana
  • Nebraska
  • NW
  • Oregon
  • @ Rutgers
  • @UCLA
the season will be made or lost on the four games in bold. This is another year where PSU can make a run into the playoffs.
Iowa's best offensive weapon also will be gone next season.
 
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Iowa's best offensive weapon also will be gone next season.
We could easily be a one-loss team. more than two will be a disappointment. And two losses in the B1G will still get us a playoff seed.
 
Next year will be interesting. tOSU will be breaking in a new QB. Michigan may too. So will Oregon. We have a pretty good schedule:
  • Nevada
  • FIU
  • Villanova
  • @ Iowa
  • @ Sparty
  • @ tOSU
  • Indiana
  • Nebraska
  • NW
  • Oregon
  • @ Rutgers
  • @UCLA
the season will be made or lost on the four games in bold. This is another year where PSU can make a run into the playoffs.
Obli, that schedule isn't the actual order of the games, correct? Just checking to confirm that we don't play 3 Big Ten games in a row on the road before 4 home games in a row.
 
Ya I agree. There are some rumors here locally in Ohio he may come back. Rumors are rumors but when there’s smoke
If I'm Allar, I'd portal into the OSU and throw to 3 NFL caliber receivers his last year. He could get a better NIL package and have a huge bonus NIL stipulation written in for them beating Michigan.
 
If I'm Allar, I'd portal into the OSU and throw to 3 NFL caliber receivers his last year. He could get a better NIL package and have a huge bonus NIL stipulation written in for them beating Michigan.
well, he's been very vocal about this. He's said, several times, that there isn't a coach he'd rather play for than CJF.

I also think he may have a thing for tOSU in that they didn't recruit him early then came on late hard. Being an Ohio kid, that may have offended him. I know a lot of Ohio kids who dreamed of playing for tOSU that got mad when tOSU went out of state to recruit that position.

Michigan would be a good spot but I am not sold on UM's QB development.
 
If I'm Allar, I'd portal into the OSU and throw to 3 NFL caliber receivers his last year. He could get a better NIL package and have a huge bonus NIL stipulation written in for them beating Michigan.
I'd do the same but he won't.
Loyalty is dangerous. It benefits who you're loyal to way more than you.
 
Allar should absolutely return. He has the physical tools to be a 1st round pick and it’s more than worth it to strive to be a 1st rounder, especially as a QB.

Nix and Penix were not 1st rounders until their 5 year. Drew can vault himself into the 1st round with continued progress.
 
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Allar should absolutely return. He has the physical tools to be a 1st round pick and it’s more than worth it to strive to be a 1st rounder, especially as a QB.

Nix and Penix were not 1st rounders until their 5 year. Drew can vault himself into the 1st round with continued progress.
Nix and Penix used the portal to go to a better situation
Do you want Allar to portal so he can play with elite receivers?
People suggesting that he should come back have yet to explain how that makes sense with his only legit threat in the passing game leaving.
 
He'll be elite at a combined and there aren't clear cut elite QBs in this draft. He has the best arm.
Show me an NFL GM who drafts his QBs based on combine performance and who has the "best arm", and I'll show you a bad NFL GM.
 
Show me an NFL GM who drafts his QBs based on combine performance and who has the "best arm", and I'll show you a bad NFL GM.
Yet it happens all the time....all the time
Unlike most of them Allar has the film to back it up without a single quality WR.
 
What, to be Hackenberg 2.0? He can get more in NIL than a 3rd round salary.
The NFL is about the second contract. Delaying it makes absolutely no sense. Too many in our fan base are stuck in the past when they think you have to be a 1st round pick to go. It's why Parker Washington was wrongly criticized. He made the right decision.

Allar has to go to the draft. That's his best move. If it's about NIL then he should portal but the answer still isn't staying here.
 
Too many ifs
Never return if you can go day 1 or 2. Never.
Day 2 means 2nd or 3rd round. I tend to agree that QBs projected to be drafted in the 2nd round should leave but I do not agree that QBs projected to be drafted in the 3rd round should leave. If there is a chance for a 3rd round QB pick to develope in to a 1rst round QB pick with another year in college, I think the QB should take the extra year in college. If Allar receives advice that he is projected to go in the 3rd round, I think he should absolutely come back.

The difference in opportunities to succeed between a 1rst round QB pick and a 3rd round QB pick is substantial, more so than any other position on the field. As an example, look at the opportunities provided to Pickett (1 rst rounder) vs. the opportunities provided to Rudolph (3rd rounder). I believe Pickett and Rudolph are very similar in their capabilities as an NFL QB and are currently probably where they belong as backup NFL QBs. However, Pickett, as a first round pick, was given every opporutnity to succeed in the hope that he was a franchise QB. Pickett failed on the field, not on the bench. Rudolph as a 3rd round pick, started his career as a backup (like most 3rd rounders) with no opportunity to start in sight. Rudolph's only opportunities to show what he could do came when the first string QB (Picket or Big Ben) got hurt. Althlough Rudolph performed decently when given the chance, he has never been given the chance to develope the way Pickett was and he likely never will at this point in his career.
 
Day 2 means 2nd or 3rd round. I tend to agree with QBs being drafted in the 2nd round but not QBs drafted in the 3rd round. If there is a chance for a 3rd round QB pick to develope in to a 1rst round QB pick with another year in college, I think the QB should take the extra year in college.

The difference in opportunities to succeed between a 1rst round QB pick and a 3rd round QB pick is substantial. As an example, look at the opportunities provided to Pickett (1 rst rounder) vs. the opportunities provided to Rudolph (3rd rounder). I believe Pickett and Rudolph are very similar in their capabilities as an NFL QB and are currently probably where they belong as backup NFL QBs. However, Pickett, as a first round pick, was given every opporutnity to succeed in the hope that he was a franchise QB. Pickett failed on the field, not on the bench. Rudolph as a 3rd round pick, started his career as a backup (like most 3rd rounders) with no opportunity to start in sight. Rudolph's only opportunities to show what he could do came when the first string QB (Picket or Big Ben) got hurt. Althlough Rudolph performed decently when given the chance, he has never been given the chance to develope the way Pickett was and he likely never will at this point in his career.
Rudolph failed repeatedly as well though. Decently doesn't do much. Remember Duck Hodges outplayed him at times
Pickett was traded away for basically nothing after 2 seasons.
I don't agree with this logic at all. Many starting QBs weren't first round picks and he doesn't guarantee himself that he will be if he returns
On paper, we're a run heavy team next year. He's already not playing in an offense that enables him to put up great numbers. Take Warren out and it gets worse. There's too much risk in returning.
My belief is all players should enter the draft as early as possible. Their life so their call but those that return are often making a mistake. Using the portal to stay and find a better situation is different. If Allar wants to go to Miami to throw for 4k against ACC defenses maybe that makes sense.
 
If you are Allar and his parents there are a few things to consider.

1) Where could he be drafted? I think he could possibly be a late first round guy. 2nd round for sure.

2) What kind of NIL package does Penn State offer?

3) Is the OC staying?

4) What is the plan to get better WRs through the portal?

The fact that he is only 20 tells me he should return. I think he will because he likes Franklin a lot and can work his way to possibly a top 5 pick. We need to keep AK and have a good NIL deal for him and I think he returns.
What’s to prevent O$U from offering him several million to spend his last yr in Columbus and who would blame him for doing so?
 
You don't know that.

Please stop pretending that you know some things for certain. You seem to confuse that with expressing your opinion, or making a prediction.

Being a know-it-all around here gets old.
I do know that
He's gone--and that's okay
 
The supporting cast next year is still a downgrade without Warren. Adding mid-tier portal guys isn't giving him great weapons. They still need to find an elite WR is they failed him.
 
On what? I saw the mediocre add today. A poor route runner with great speed who may help our kick return game. I also saw your reaction of Fields going to ND. Someone that could be a difference maker
Kid was all Sun Belt first team as a reciever and second as a returner. He had 1,043 yards receiving including 143 yards against a very good defensive Iowa team.

He may not be Tez Johnson but is a good WR.
 
Kid was all Sun Belt first team as a reciever and second as a returner. He had 1,043 yards receiving including 143 yards against a very good defensive Iowa team.

He may not be Tez Johnson but is a good WR.
Being Sun Belt first team means very little
Did you see the highlights from the Iowa game? Both were blown coverage which he helps create with his speed.
Losing Warren and the 2 WRs we've added...do we have a better supporting cast or worse as of now? Right now it's worse.
 
Being Sun Belt first team means very little
Did you see the highlights from the Iowa game? Both were blown coverage which he helps create with his speed.
Losing Warren and the 2 WRs we've added...do we have a better supporting cast or worse as of now? Right now it's worse.
Lando not impressed by 3 tds vs Iowa. Gotta score 4 vs OSU to impress him I guess.
 
Why? Looks like he is. Getting picked in the third round by Cleveland would be a career death sentence.
See the post right above this--he's a top 5 pick right now in the minds of most and that's before he's working out in shorts at Indy
In no world is he, as of now, a third round pick
 
As a fan, I think highly of DA. He has demonstrated the ability to make some plays that not many but current and future hall of famers are able to make.

He is continuing to learn and gain in maturity and confidence. But he is not yet a finished product and I believe that he would benefit from another year playing for PSU.

With DA's skillset, I can see why he would be a sought after prospect if he made himself available
 
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