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Kyle Snyder vs Bo Nickal

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I read some Snyder vs Bo talk on The mat forums and it made me wonder your thoughts here. Who wins and how does the match play out?
 
I don't like that matchup without another 20 lbs of muscle that would take 2 years to add 'properly'. Cassar vs Snyder interests me greatly, won't happen but one can dream? The Olympic officials who butchered the weight classes still have me spun up. To be honest, I think Bo beating Cox the second time around is entirely plausible.
 
This is why I asked the question what weight is Bo going? If Bo goes 97 and Cox goes 86 Snyder’s toughest Comp is Bo and they are training together either very smart or very stupid on Snyder’s part. Would be quite the story if KS it’s not out by someone he signed up to train with. Which leads me to the next question where are the team trials I have to go to that if I can
 
This is why I asked the question what weight is Bo going? If Bo goes 97 and Cox goes 86 Snyder’s toughest Comp is Bo and they are training together either very smart or very stupid on Snyder’s part. Would be quite the story if KS it’s not out by someone he signed up to train with. Which leads me to the next question where are the team trials I have to go to that if I can
The alpha males at this level don't think that way. In Hawkese, Dennis didn't worry about Gilman and Ramos when he returned to train in Iowa City.

If you're Snyder, you're not thinking about beating Bo -- you're thinking about beating Sadulaev. In which case, Taylor and Nickal are the two best possible training partners. Train yourself to be quicker than the target.
 
The alpha males at this level don't think that way. In Hawkese, Dennis didn't worry about Gilman and Ramos when he returned to train in Iowa City.

If you're Snyder, you're not thinking about beating Bo -- you're thinking about beating Sadulaev. In which case, Taylor and Nickal are the two best possible training partners. Train yourself to be quicker than the target.
Umm would Yianni train with Zain. In “Lionese” you are wrong. Never look past your next match that is why KS lost in the semis at the worlds.
Im not saying these guys are not his best training partners but you can be certain if he loses to Bo for the Olympic spot he surely will be thinking long and hard about it.
 
Umm would Yianni train with Zain. In “Lionese” you are wrong. Never look past your next match that is why KS lost in the semis at the worlds.
Im not saying these guys are not his best training partners but you can be certain if he loses to Bo for the Olympic spot he surely will be thinking long and hard about it.
Snyder already has thought long and hard about it, that is why he is at the NLWC. When your goal is to be World Champion you can't be concerned about not being the best guy in the NLWC. If Bo beats out Snyder for the Olympic team than Snyder is not good enough to be World Champ again. Simple as that and Snyder knows that.

I think Snyder has done all the algebra on this and would accept that outcome...didn't say he would be happy about it.

Snyder is at the NLWC because he believes that gives him the best chance to accomplish his goals and Bo Nickal is a big part of that.
 
Umm would Yianni train with Zain. In “Lionese” you are wrong. Never look past your next match that is why KS lost in the semis at the worlds.
Im not saying these guys are not his best training partners but you can be certain if he loses to Bo for the Olympic spot he surely will be thinking long and hard about it.
Your analogy is flawed because Snyder has maxed out his Ohio State training. Yianni has not yet maxed out his Cornell training, plus he has probably wants to finish his degree there.
 
Your analogy is flawed because Snyder has maxed out his Ohio State training. Yianni has not yet maxed out his Cornell training, plus he has probably wants to finish his degree there.
As I said I Agree with the move what I also said was this will get pretty interesting.
Hey here is a thought what if Taylor gets knocked off by JDen and Snyder beats out Bo how does your theory look then and how do you feel about it.
 
As I said I Agree with the move what I also said was this will get pretty interesting.
Hey here is a thought what if Taylor gets knocked off by JDen and Snyder beats out Bo how does your theory look then and how do you feel about it.
Snyder is a member of NLWC, so we back him all the same.

At that point my inner troll of Tan Tom means more to me, then any alumni drama. Besides at that point isnt it all about USA! USA! USA!
 
Snyder is a member of NLWC, so we back him all the same.

At that point my inner troll of Tan Tom means more to me, then any alumni drama. Besides at that point isnt it all about USA! USA! USA!
I am unequivocally behind every US team member this was not the point and let me say again I dont blame him for joining the NLWC. My thoughts were purely based on what the final team members could be and how they got there. This Olympic team could be the hardest ever to earn a spot with only 6 weights and all the recent talent.
Very little separates these guys I think an edge could be gained or lost.
 
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Hey here is a thought what if Taylor gets knocked off by JDen and Snyder beats out Bo how does your theory look then and how do you feel about it.

It is what it is at that point. We root hard for our guys but at the end of the day, let the best man win.

I’d be rooting hard for David and Bo in your scenario but if they lose, I’ll be rooting hard for J’den and Kyle. These guys are all deserving of the spot and all of them are class acts.
 
Both the coaches and the wrestlers are very thoughtful when managing time with the various training partners. Everything conceivable is considered to make each NLWC wrestler the best version of themselves.

I believe fans try to boil things down to something that makes sense in their own minds, using their own thoughts and logic (or lack of :)). This makes for decent discussion, but surely misses the mark for exactly what's going on.

Kyle and Bo in the same room, or frankly Kyle, Bo, and all others in the NLWC room, will make each of them better in the long run. I'm excited to see how all the weight classes play out from now through early April.
 
I never thought we'd see this match when a few years ago, Bo lost to MyMar at 174 and Snyder won Heavyweight, effectively ending Gwiz's streak.

Yet ... here we are.
 
... fans try to boil things down to something that makes sense in their own minds, using their own thoughts and logic (or lack of :)). This makes for decent discussion, but surely misses the mark for exactly what's going on ...
“In short, unless Nico is involved, we just don’t know if a wrestler in the room is half winning or half losing.”

— Schrodinger, citing Heisenberg :)
 
The style & build difference between Bo & Snyder is definitely interesting.

One can bench press a dump truck.

The other can flip a dump truck on its back in a blink of an eye.
 
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Good discussions. While it's 5 months away, the Olympic Trials will contain so much intrigue at all 18 weight classes/disciplines that the discussions here should be tons of fun, men's freestyle in particular.
 
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This plus Snyder did beat Saduleav.

Running that entire bracket... maybe that's the comparison.

Sads himself was on record as not being that confident that his weight bump would work out, especially against Kyle Snyder, sure enough, it played a huge factor.

Within 6 months of his loss to Snyder and finally settling into 97, Sads AND his coach were practically guaranteeing a victory. IMO, he has widened the gap, not to mention Kyle didnt even get to the finals for the rubber match. Saduleav has no weak links now and I cant see anyone testing him at all.
 
Sads himself was on record as not being that confident that his weight bump would work out, especially against Kyle Snyder, sure enough, it played a huge factor.

Within 6 months of his loss to Snyder and finally settling into 97, Sads AND his coach were practically guaranteeing a victory. IMO, he has widened the gap, not to mention Kyle didnt even get to the finals for the rubber match. Saduleav has no weak links now and I cant see anyone testing him at all.
I would love to see J'den against Sadulaev. I think J'den's defense is superb and would be a real chess match type of opponent for Sadulaev.
 
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