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Larry Johnson homecoming

I don't understand the animosity toward Johnson. The man did a lot of good in his 18 seasons at Penn State both on and off the field. Franklin wanted to bring his own coaches in and he still wanted to coach and for whatever reason, Meyer hired him. If any other team besides Ohio State or say Michigan had hired him, would he be as vilified as much as he is now? The university decided not to hire him as head coach, Franklin apparently didn't want to put him on his staff, he went out and took the best offer made to him. That's life and some people here need to find one.
 
Actually, Larry was at the State High game watching potential recruits and son Tony get recognized at a former star of the Little Lions. Great win by the now 8-0 Little Lions.
Was gonna say, I was at the tavern most of Friday night and didn't see LJ Sr.
 
I don't understand the animosity toward Johnson. The man did a lot of good in his 18 seasons at Penn State both on and off the field. Franklin wanted to bring his own coaches in and he still wanted to coach and for whatever reason, Meyer hired him. If any other team besides Ohio State or say Michigan had hired him, would he be as vilified as much as he is now? The university decided not to hire him as head coach, Franklin apparently didn't want to put him on his staff, he went out and took the best offer made to him. That's life and some people here need to find one.
Exactly. He, like any of us, has to do what is best for his family and he took that route. Don't begrudge him. But really happy we have a great young coach as his replacement!
 
I don't understand the animosity toward Johnson. The man did a lot of good in his 18 seasons at Penn State both on and off the field. Franklin wanted to bring his own coaches in and he still wanted to coach and for whatever reason, Meyer hired him. If any other team besides Ohio State or say Michigan had hired him, would he be as vilified as much as he is now? The university decided not to hire him as head coach, Franklin apparently didn't want to put him on his staff, he went out and took the best offer made to him. That's life and some people here need to find one.

All of that went out the window when he picked up the phone and convinced Deion Barnes to leave a year early, while at the same time encouraging Adolphus Washington to stay an extra year.

To hell with him.
 
I don't understand the animosity toward Johnson. The man did a lot of good in his 18 seasons at Penn State both on and off the field. Franklin wanted to bring his own coaches in and he still wanted to coach and for whatever reason, Meyer hired him. If any other team besides Ohio State or say Michigan had hired him, would he be as vilified as much as he is now? The university decided not to hire him as head coach, Franklin apparently didn't want to put him on his staff, he went out and took the best offer made to him. That's life and some people here need to find one.

Explain that to Deion Barnes.
 
Explain that to Deion Barnes.
So you're basing your opinion on one single player compared to the countless others Larry Johnson put in the NFL while at Penn State? Deion Barnes still had to make the decision to leave himself, and based on Johnsons track record, I'm sure he valued his former coaches opinion highly. And besides, most coaches are only fooling themselves if they think anyone with a little talent is going to stay for 4 years right now. Even Phil Grosz has said coaches are recruiting today with the expectation that kids are only going to stay 3 years in their program. And who among us has not made at least one decision in their life they have later regretted? It's called life and the road is never straight and wide.
 
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All of that went out the window when he picked up the phone and convinced Deion Barnes to leave a year early, while at the same time encouraging Adolphus Washington to stay an extra year.

To hell with him.
^^^^^^This^^^^^ Agree 100%, when you start tampering with other teams to the detriment of the young man then you have really crossed a line. No way should have Barnes went pro at that time and LJ advising to do so was a very bad thing for the player, but a good thing for LJ and tOSU.
 
I saw an interview with him in which he stated he didn't sleep after the game, stayed up all night, 2 nights in a row, had 5 hours sleep in the past 48 hours.

At the SC game on Friday night, Johnson was standing by himself on a corner of the SC sideline, Franklin was over on the Harrisburg sideline.
 
All of that went out the window when he picked up the phone and convinced Deion Barnes to leave a year early, while at the same time encouraging Adolphus Washington to stay an extra year.

To hell with him.
Agree....IIRC LJ left PSU with some bitterness because he was not considered for the HC position for which he interviewed. It was not because JF didn't retain him although I don't know if he would have been retained.

The notion that these coaches have to do "what's best for their family" is a freaking joke. I'm willing to be that most everyone on this board wished they had half the money a coach accrues after 18 years of coaching. And, they would be after 45-50 years of working your butts off! LJ never had to work another day after leaving PSU!
 
Agree....IIRC LJ left PSU with some bitterness because he was not considered for the HC position for which he interviewed. It was not because JF didn't retain him although I don't know if he would have been retained.

The notion that these coaches have to do "what's best for their family" is a freaking joke. I'm willing to be that most everyone on this board wished they had half the money a coach accrues after 18 years of coaching. And, they would be after 45-50 years of working your butts off! LJ never had to work another day after leaving PSU!
Do you have a family to support? To feed? To make sure they are warm and sheltered? The joke is anyone who would put anything materialistic between themselves and their family. If it is, you need to rearrange your priorities in life. No matter what level or amount, nothing should come before family. Nothing.
 
I don't begrudge him leaving for Ohio State. Honestly, I was surprised he stayed after they canned his mentor in the disgraceful manner in which they did.
 
I like Coach Spencer, I think he does more with less than LJ. LJ was a great coach when he was here no hard feelings from me.
 
LJ Sr. didn't choose to leave...He was loyal to PSU until he wasn't included in Franklin's staff. I am sure he would still be here if he had the choice. The last 5 years has been difficult for all of us, but particularly for the coaches under Paterno, including LJ Sr.

Sean Spence is doing an awesome job. I don't think there has been any drop off in defensive line coaching, which is saying a lot...so we were in good hands either way.
 
I don't begrudge him leaving for Ohio State. Honestly, I was surprised he stayed after they canned his mentor in the disgraceful manner in which they did.
Nor do I. This kind of movement is not unusual. For example, don't forget that Bo was once on Woody's staff at tOSU--and they remained good friends.
It does add some spice to the rivalry, though.
 
Nor do I. This kind of movement is not unusual. For example, don't forget that Bo was once on Woody's staff at tOSU--and they remained good friends.
It does add some spice to the rivalry, though.

I am with you guys. I like the guy. It was clear that PSU didn't want him, so he left. He'd be here if the school treated him well.
 
I am with you guys. I like the guy. It was clear that PSU didn't want him, so he left. He'd be here if the school treated him well.

Maybe. When the head coach changes three times in 3 years, all bets are off about that. Few assistants would be around for the third coach.
 
Maybe. When the head coach changes three times in 3 years, all bets are off about that. Few assistants would be around for the third coach.

You are right. Not sure he'd be here or not, but can't begrudge the guy going off to make a living.
 
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