Having been to the place that CR66 posts on his sig pic and the place you are referencing near Delhi, India, I can assure you they are not the same.
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Having been to the place that CR66 posts on his sig pic and the place you are referencing near Delhi, India, I can assure you they are not the same.
CR: wahhhhhhhhhhhhh! you have me on ignore but you can't resist responding to my posts!
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
Could you or someone elaborate? I guess it was behind the scene except for the Joyner and O'Brien hires. Was he pulling strings?
Let me respond this way......You know the old saying "to the victor belongs the spoils?" How do you think Judas ended up as AD?
I did describe it as bizarre so I'm glad you didn't take that as an insult.
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If you put a group of lawyers into a room, to resolve an issue that they have differences about, and you ask them “What is the desired outcome of the meeting?”, if they are being honest they will tell you that the desired outcome is that their side – their client – gets want they want, while not giving up anything of importance to them. That – when the lawyer is hired by a client, is a reasonable response. That is their job, which is what they are trained and hired to do. They are hired to be professional advocates – and to “win”.
If you take a group of scientists, engineers, theologians, or physicians….and put them in a room to discuss an issue about which they have different viewpoints, and you ask them the same question “What is the desired outcome of the meeting?”, they will tell you it is to solve the problem, get it right, make it better, or get closer to the truth. It is a simple basic difference in the thought processes and training between contracted lawyers (advocates) and other professionals.
The differences in these thought processes helps to explain why, after years of discussion, this Board has been unable to make meaningful, beneficial reform. It also helps to explain the seemingly unexplainable.............like what gives GTASCA that "special" level of douchbaginess
Typical response from a narcissist.
Go on back to cruisin' Cruising, we all know what that's about...
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I am dancing on air with hope today!
But then Joe goes right back to using "horsing around" and not using "sexual nature" afterwards. To think the word sexual was not in Joe's vocabulary before his testimony is a bit of a stretch. The term "sexual nature" I can see as new/uncommon to him but if Joe's impression had always been that what occurred was sexual he would've said "sexual" to begin with & probably stayed with it.
I mentioned the Joyner hire. WHat were the spoils? Do not mean to press you.
Not sure if its been mentioned, but Lubert hosted a few Second Mile functions on his properties.
I have never seen a better description of the Freeh Report than this: "an array of theories, speculations, character assassinations and just outright lies"
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Well, if one were to get Freeh on the stand and ask him for any evidence or supporting documents that support his "opinion" - that might not go well for Freeh.
Now we go from Freeh and from Fact to Opinion to Unsubstantiated Opinion. I don't have to remind people that an Unsubstantiated Opinion is only worth as much as the paper that an $8.5 million check is written on.
Also CR66 kinda keeps forgetting that Freeh has already admitted that his report amounts to nothing but an opinion. So his beloved report is no better than what he says our theories are.
It's Jasna Polona...New Jersey...a TPC course...Obviously CR lives in NJ...not a fan of the course...weak finishing hole i.e. 18...Pro Shop not great either.
If I'm correct was at one time a separate home of the Johnson Family ala J&J...there was even a rumor its where the head of the family kept his "mistress"?
He thinks the club is exclusive. Hardly. It's a TPC for chrissakes. CR is all phony. Advertising his membership in that place -- very sad.
Well, hypothetically, if it is not just an "Unsubstantiated Opinion" but an opinion that was completely contradicted by facts known to the perpetrator of the "opinion" it would probably meet the higher threshold of "malice" for defamation of a public figure. Hypothetically, of course.
Frankly, I'll be extremely surprised if Freeh himself ever sees a witness stand. If he does you'll here a lot of "I don't recall" "I stand by my statement" "I stand by my report" "It was opinion and not reported as fact" (you can't say a guy lied about his opinion, y'know) "That was what was known at the time" "witnesses were uncooperative" "was given bad data" and so on and so forth. If he is forced to get anywhere near admitting guilt he'll just follow the plot line of any of his own reports and throw his own team under the bus, especially the guys who flipped; "trusted team to produce a factual report" "rogue members of the team planted false evidence" "disgruntled employees" "very disappointed" "If I had only know I'd have intervened and fired the SOBs" and so on and so on and so on. But I really doubt it'll ever get even that far. The system is designed and built to protect guys like Freeh, not bust them. And this cat has US Senator level protection. He'll never be forced to defend his own report.
You will if C/S/S go to trial (they won't). She's on their expert witness list.
Frankly..if he is as successful as he thinks...surprised he is not a member of any other private clubs in the area...
Jason is a TPC club..The Tour has done a nice job branding the Clubs...but anyone can play the course. You may not get preferred T Times or other luxuries...but its considered semi-private.
Pine Valley...Secession...Atlanta Golf Club...Cypress...Fishers Island...of course Augusta National...etc...they are private.
I graduated with Chris in 1997, but I didn't know him that well. It would be interesting to know if he was told anything.
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Hmmm. Now this is an interesting hypothetical proposition. The facts, known to the perpetrator of the "opinion," contradict said opinion, hypothetically speaking of course.
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Interesting
Makes a lot of sense.......of course, it won't matter now, but it certainly opens a window into at least one of the avenues that the Defense had planned to pursue
Well, since Freeh corrected himself, why are you only saying "essentially correct"? According to you he got everything correct, even when the DA disagrees.
He did not specify he was using competent legal analysis either, so cut him some slack.
That would be an interesting hypothetical situation.
Hypothetically, I thought the report contents contradicted several key "conclusions". Hypothetically, I still prefer that description over the newer, less definitive "opinions".
Key trustees knew Joe had agreed to and was in his final season. The HCFB position was "shopped" in summer 2011. Key trustees resented the way Joe kept them from dabbling in the FB program. Their ability to hit a home run in wrestling led them to believe they could "fix" football. IMO these key trustees fired Joe knowing he had 3 more games. The key trustees put Judas on the throne as their puppet so they could control the athletic program. Their magical mystery tour of a search for Joe's successor (which they screwed up badly) was their first lesson in humility.
Key trustees were patrons of JS. I'm not saying anyone knew JS was a pedophile. But they ended their relationships with TSM and JS years before the GJP. Ira was one of those who made his facilities available to TSM and abruptly stopped. Yet they feigned ignorance of all when the GJP occurred. Ray knows the timeline on that.
I am from Delhi and let me assure you nothing like that exists there. Maybe some old forts, but not that one.
Well, to be fair:
"From a global perspective, I believe that with the benefit of millions of documents and 300+ interviews Joe, Tim, Gary & Graham essentially got it right. Because guys like Corbett, Surma, Lubert, Joyner, Frazier and Junker didn't get the outcome they were originally expecting, they commissioned Freeh to produce an array of theories, speculations, character assassinations and just outright lies to make themselves feel better and to validate their preconceived notions, as well as justifying their petty vendettas and a political assassination, as wrong as they turned out to be."
In addition - because of the antics of Governor Corrupt, some Corporate Thugs and Aging Jocks still trying to be Big Man On Campus and completely ignoring their duty of care to the commonwealth and to the university - they invited the NCAA in the door. A much larger, nefarious and mendacious entity with way deeper pockets, colder blood and sharper lawyers - who don't give a shit about you, me, any victims, due process, commonwealth judges, Tom Corbett, PSU Trustees, Penn State, her athletes & their parents, her students, faculty & staff, a large regional economy or the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for that matter.
Louis Freeh could have just as easily produced a report stating "nothing to see here folks" and it would have been the truth. He could have shown 1998 to be the failure point, indicate that the problems rested at Second Mile and with County & State CPS, suggested the public wait for Lynne Abraham's findings (oh wait, she went AWOL after 6 weeks) and the Pa Office of Attorney General's investigation (oh wait, that never happened) and scaled back his report to just the recommendations for good governance.
But because your pals were more concerned with measuring their d*ck size - and Louis Freeh decided to audition to be the NCAA's new bitch on Penn State's dime and Penn State's time no less! - the financial, social, personal & professional fallout has spiraled into half a billion dollars.
And this shameful self-preservation and self-promotion helped us all out here how, exactly? Are our children and grandchildren any safer now with a "football cover up" theory?
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Vaguely resembles some of the old Portuguese buildings from the middle ages that you'd see in places like Goa.
The funny thing about CR66 is that if he is who he represents himself to be, he is far more guilty than Paterno, Curley and Schultz. He is either a liar or an enabler, I personally don't see any other options.
Which is it big guy?
