Can someone point me to where Carnegie-Mellon and the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity were prosecuted by Pennsylvania in this person's death (this and all of CMU's Frats are "on-campus"):
Lawyers say Beta members tried to help
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Contributory negligence on the kid's part. How's your pal SkunkBear? Where has that loser been hiding?
In any event, the kid shouldn't have been drinking if he couldn't handle it.
Show me the policy that states PSU has to approve outside employment. I don't believe there is one.
If you think that I'm putting facts in the way, then just wait until you see all the facts that Tom Kline throws in there. And, Tom Kline won't give a rat's ass about your deed.
If you think it's such a good idea for PSU to have its administrators living in frat houses, then how come no one has ever heard of this before?
Really, you don't think they have a policy that applies people doing independent defense research utilizing PSU facilities? C'mon, how dumb do you think they are?
Nor is there a policy that requires PSU to approve living arrangements and chosen residences of employees (i.e., his claim that PSU had "approved" Bream's choice of residence or the notion that Bream ever even made such a ridiculous application)....but this troll doesn't let little things like FACTS get in the way of his storylines....
Where did I ever say I thought such a thing was "a good idea"? Where did I ever agree with your total canard, strawman and absurd contention that PSU had any "final say" or "approval capability" as to where ANY of their administrators choose to reside? Typical troll bull$hit of attempting to put thoughts and words into people's mouths that they never even remotely stated - what a surprise, but you're not a "troll" and love PSU....blah, blah, blah.....LMFAO, at what a pathetic piece of whiny, little, immature, moronic garbage you are pal.
Listen, you dolt:
I've tried patience and niceness
Obviously, that "don't work" with you.
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"......Never mind that you flip from discussing a criminal case and civil settlement back and forth re V5 as if they are the same thing. ...."
HUH? WTF? I never made one damn statement about any "criminal case" wrt "Beta", nor about criminal culpability wrt "Sandusky"......I'm talking about two financial settlements from PSU - one a known entity in the V5 Payoff, the other a potential payout (and my expectations on the likelihood of that payout) for Piazza (sp) ......and the tie-ins to the Lubert:Kline relationship
"....I'll post anything I want anywhere I want in any thread I want....."
Good, hope you do. Spew like a monkey throwing his crap out the cage - I don't care. I sure as hell wont know whether you do or do not.....you're deep-sixed as far as I am concerned.
".....Including calling your bullshit when I see it. Have a nice day....."
Coming from an expert like you, you should be able to recognize bullshit much more effectively.
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There are some (far too many) humans out there - and you are definitely one of them - to whom you could make the statement:
"2+2 = 4"
And they would respond back with:
"Bullshit.!!!! ....That's BULLSHIT!!!!! Red and Yellow make Orange!!!!"
Where does on go with THAT logic? LMAO
That is the level of "stoopid" you are at right now.
Adamantly stoopid is not a good look.
Now, Before you make the accusation :
No, I don't THINK I am infinitely smarter than you.
It is a simple QED fact.
But its not much of a hurdle.
Ciao
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I've tried patience and niceness
Obviously, that "don't work" with you.______________
"......Never mind that you flip from discussing a criminal case and civil settlement back and forth re V5 as if they are the same thing. ...."
HUH? WTF? I never made one damn statement about any "criminal case" wrt "Beta", nor about criminal culpability wrt "Sandusky"......I'm talking about two financial settlements from PSU - one a known entity in the V5 Payoff, the other a potential payout (and my expectations on the likelihood of that payout) for Piazza (sp) ......and the tie-ins to the Lubert:Kline relationship
"....I'll post anything I want anywhere I want in any thread I want....."
Good, hope you do. Spew like a monkey throwing his crap out the cage - I don't care. I sure as hell wont know whether you do or do not.....you're deep-sixed as far as I am concerned.
".....Including calling your bullshit when I see it. Have a nice day....."
Coming from an expert like you, you should be able to recognize bullshit much more effectively.
____________________
There are some (far too many) humans out there - and you are definitely one of them - to whom you could make the statement:
"2+2 = 4"
And they would respond back with:
"Bullshit.!!!! ....That's BULLSHIT!!!!! Red and Yellow make Orange!!!!"
Where does on go with THAT logic? LMAO
That is the level of "stoopid" you are at right now.
Adamantly stoopid is not a good look.
Now, Before you make the accusation
:No, I don't THINK I am infinitely smarter than you.
It is a simple QED fact.
But its not much of a hurdle.
Ciao
.
Listen, you dolt:
I've tried patience and niceness
______________
"......Never mind that you flip from discussing a criminal case and civil settlement back and forth re V5 as if they are the same thing. ...."
HUH? WTF? I never made one damn statement about any "criminal case" wrt "Beta", nor about criminal culpability wrt "Sandusky"......I'm talking about two financial settlements from PSU - one a known entity in the V5 Payoff, the other a potential payout (and my expectations on the likelihood of that payout) for Piazza (sp) ......and the tie-ins to the Lubert:Kline relationship
"....I'll post anything I want anywhere I want in any thread I want....."
Good, hope you do. Spew like a monkey throwing his crap out the cage - I don't care. I sure as hell wont know whether you do or do not.....you're deep-sixed as far as I am concerned.
".....Including calling your bullshit when I see it. Have a nice day....."
Coming from an expert like you, you should be able to recognize bullshit much more effectively.
____________________
There are some (far too many) humans out there - and you are definitely one of them - to whom you could make the statement:
"2+2 = 4"
And they would respond back with:
"Bullshit.!!!! ....That's BULLSHIT!!!!! Red and Yellow make Orange!!!!"
Where does on go with THAT logic? LMAO
That is the level of "stoopid" you are at right now.
Adamantly stoopid is not a good look.
Now, Before you make the accusation
No, I don't THINK I am infinitely smarter than you.
It is a simple QED fact.
But its not much of a hurdle.
Ciao
.
Yes, Tardlion/Turdlion joins his idiot pals on ignore.
Layoff the sauce. He wasn't even referring to my post.
More lovely troll droppings, LMFAO....at what a pathetic, moronic douche you are. Be hard to agree it's "bad or good" or pass any judgement whatsoever regarding an idea and notion that I have made clear is made up bullshit and nothing more than a figment of your pea-brain, douche-bag. You've yet to show me this "proof" that PSU "reviews and approves" employees residences as a condition of employment, LMFAO!
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Um, okay, you don't want to agree with anything. Let's do it like a mad lib (you fill in the blank):
It is a _______________ idea for PSU to have senior administrators living in a fraternity house that is (totally surrounded by but not strictly speaking) on campus, where there will be rule-breaking, hazing, underage drinking, negligence, injury and death, all of which are captured on video. Since the University knew about this living arrangement, the plaintiff's lawyer will successfully argue that the University ____________ed it. He will also argue that the administrator, and therefore the University, ___________ed similar conduct that was previously witnessed.
When the plaintiff's lawyer gets to argue his case, he will ___________ this up the University's __________.
More absurdity from troll-boy.... You seem to have forgotten the step where PSU, as a condition of employment, tells employees where they are, and aren't, permitted to live! LMFAO at what a complete @sshat troll you are spouting you're completely nonsensical, made-up, bull$hit troll-facts......and that you are permitted to continue right along your flame-PSU with made-up nonsense merry ways.... Good stuff!
Complete different set of circumstances. He was not a member of the fraternity. The drinking was not part of a hazing ritual. The alcohol was not provided by the fraternity. The article did even state if they were drinking at the fraternity. He didn't fall down the stairs and the authorities were not called 12 hours after that. There was not a trained medical professional living in the house that no one bothered to get.
You'll have to read through all of the conflict of interest and outside employment policies and/or contact Roy Baker about that. But guess what? It doesn't matter anyway. All that matters is that this particular living arrangement most definitely will be used against PSU by the plaintiffs in the lawsuit.
That's nonsense - what difference does it make if he was a member of the fraternity (he was underage, 20, and absolutely drinking at the fraternity as he was a former CMU student visiting the fraternity!?!?). How you are claiming that he wasn't drinking at the Fraternity when the article states that he was partying with Fraternity members and found dead AT THE FRATERNITY as a guest of the Fraternity (and a former CMU student who knew members quite well -- and may have been a former member of the Frat before transferring to Pitt-G for all we know)?!?! You are completely full of $hit that these are different circumstances, LMFAO!
No, I don't have to read through those things....you're the one making the absurd, bull$hit claim Jack@ss - the burden of proving your absurd claims that run contrary to every employer on the planet's "terms & conditions of employment" is on you douche-bag, not me! But you aren't a flaming troll dickhead.....LMFAO!
"Contributory negligence" is (1) not the law in Pennsylvania; and is (2) a bar to civil relief that has zero to do with criminal liability.
Wrong whammy, you contribute to wrongdoing in criminal cases. You dodge the other question, where is idiotbear? Drunk Tank, Bones City? Jail? Disguised?
Residency requirements are frequently imposed in municipal and education employment contexts. Obviously, you know nothing about that, though.
But, this is just a straw man that you're trying to set up.
The real issue is whether the University has control over who is a resident adviser to a fraternity, and whether the university will restrict that person's ability to serve as a resident adviser if there is a risk of liability being imposed on the university as a result of an employee's status as a resident adviser. Of course it will.
PSU is a "Municipal Employer" now according to you??? We were talking about PSU employment, so now according to you PSU is a "Municipal Employer" (i.e., a teacher at a public elementary or secondary school)??? If PSU is not a "Municipal Employer", what does your ever-obtuse gem have to do with the price of tea in China - we aren't talking about "Municipal Employment" at a "Municipal School" (i.e., elementary and secondary Public Schools), you f'ing ramrod moron!
bjf1991 said:
Now what was that again you arrogant a-hole? Maybe you should go buy a calculator, it may help you with math. Maybe. Hard to say given your stupid rants about the messages you posted so recently. I am sure you have some twisted logic to show how when you decided to bring Sandusky's acquittal at trial into it that really really isn't pretty please about any "criminal culpability" for Jerry. Don't bother replying, you will be on ignore, but I bet you have some really fancy letters you can use incorrectly again!
The victim tripped over a cardboard cutout of one Joe Paterno.
That was in response to your hyperbolic rant about "every employer on the planet's terms and conditions of employment". Try to keep up with your own posts.
Ah. I see you are back to the "other people screwed up too, so that means we are clear"
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