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Let's talk about Corley

Your argument basically boils down to "when you tell someone to do something and they then don't do it the way you want, then somehow its the person telling and not the person performing about said actions fault."

Should we get you a logic coach? Or would you just blame him for your own issue as well?

Actually, I'm not arguing anything. I want to know, from people who actually know, if Corley is going to be able to fix the issues with the WRs. Hence the thread "Let's talk about Corley."

So far, I've seen one high quality contributor to the discussion who knew a lot about him that I didn't know. Everything else was a string of people offended by the discussion lol.
 
THANK YOU. This is the kind of knowledgeable info I was looking for! Not the stupid posts about “Its not the WR coach’s fault because WR coaches don’t do anything anyways.” I want to know if they’re going to get these guys coached up or if we should expect to watch this poor pass catching game all year.
No. You wanted to blame Corley, the man who Franklin hired. Franklin hired him. Franklin hired him. Franklin hired him. Franklin hired him.

There’s no fault, but if there were, it would be Franklin’s because, if you recall: Franklin hired him.
 
Both PI calls were easy calls and were executed poorly. Neither "rubbed" the defender they flat out blocked them. We would throw a fit of that happened to PSU and it didn't get called. With that being said I expect it to happen to us against OSU or Michigan.
 
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Actually, I'm not arguing anything. I want to know, from people who actually know, if Corley is going to be able to fix the issues with the WRs. Hence the thread "Let's talk about Corley."

So far, I've seen one high quality contributor to the discussion who knew a lot about him that I didn't know. Everything else was a string of people offended by the discussion lol.
Didn’t know a lot about Corley but you were anxious to blame him - all day long.

You could’ve done what TBoyer did and looked at his CV.
 
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Actually, I'm not arguing anything. I want to know, from people who actually know, if Corley is going to be able to fix the issues with the WRs. Hence the thread "Let's talk about Corley."

So far, I've seen one high quality contributor to the discussion who knew a lot about him that I didn't know. Everything else was a string of people offended by the discussion lol.

So someone writing up a little bit about the guys previous coaching stops, without referencing anything to do with how his players were before and during his coaching, is high quality and everything else was shit?

You sir, are a laughable cretin.
 
Actually, I'm not arguing anything. I want to know, from people who actually know, if Corley is going to be able to fix the issues with the WRs. Hence the thread "Let's talk about Corley."

So far, I've seen one high quality contributor to the discussion who knew a lot about him that I didn't know. Everything else was a string of people offended by the discussion lol.


Consult your Ouija board. I don't even perceive a problem. Take the Pitt game out of the mix because of the monsoon and the drop ratio to completed passes is fine. The PI rule has changed for everyone and is being called on everyone, till these young college players learn to just get in the way without hitting defensive players. Your position seems analogous to the 'making a mountain out of a mole hill'.
 
So I guess this discussion boils down to who people are putting their money on to blame. Some say the receivers, and only the receivers are to blame. Some say graduation and only graduation is to blame. Now we’re hearing that if anyone is to blame, it’s franklin. But it also sounds like we’ve established that Corley is absolutely 100% not to blame. I honestly don’t understand this black or white placing of blame on some and not others.

But should “blame” even be part of this discussion? Back to the point of this discussion...is the wide receiver corps going to get better or worse under Corley?
 
So someone writing up a little bit about the guys previous coaching stops, without referencing anything to do with how his players were before and during his coaching, is high quality and everything else was shit?

You sir, are a laughable cretin.
Yeah, I would love for you to add more. Everything else was crap because it was just “Blame the WR because all the WR coach does is recruit.” I’m pointing out that that line of thinking can’t possibly be correct.
 
Yeah, I would love for you to add more. Everything else was crap because it was just “Blame the WR because all the WR coach does is recruit.” I’m pointing out that that line of thinking can’t possibly be correct.

WR coaches are responsible for the way routes are run. The way they block. The way they turn their body towards a pass.

When the ball hits you in the freaking hands and you continually drop them, that's on you as a WR.

If you want to blame Corley for the OPI, by all means.

If you want to blame Corley for the outside blocking by our WRs, feed free.

The drops on plays that were routine? Sorry pal, WR is the owner of those unless you want to blame Trace for his throw.
 
Actually, I'm not arguing anything. I want to know, from people who actually know, if Corley is going to be able to fix the issues with the WRs. Hence the thread "Let's talk about Corley."

So far, I've seen one high quality contributor to the discussion who knew a lot about him that I didn't know. Everything else was a string of people offended by the discussion lol.

So, basically, you have been talking about this for two days, AND claim you have no animus towards him? Add liar to your list of attributes.
 
WR coaches are responsible for the way routes are run. The way they block. The way they turn their body towards a pass.

When the ball hits you in the freaking hands and you continually drop them, that's on you as a WR.

If you want to blame Corley for the OPI, by all means.

If you want to blame Corley for the outside blocking by our WRs, feed free.

The drops on plays that were routine? Sorry pal, WR is the owner of those unless you want to blame Trace for his throw.
I think that's reasonable. And now we're getting somewhere.

I wonder...is there anything they can do in practice to work on catching fundamentals? Should it be on McSorley and the WRs to put in extra time on their own?
 
Sorry to interrupt your whine-fest. Please continue...
PSU Soupy, Berkstater, HazletonLion, BarkleyPSU1, PoconoLion, stormingnorm, jbenedict, toboyer, mcgunns, Roswell-Blue, djr4rebs are just a few of the posters who contributed to a meaningful and productive conversation.

And with that, I do have to apologize to those posters for my earlier generalization that every post other than tboyer's was crap...because they all found a way to enlighten the conversation without being personally offended at the topic.

So back on track...I feel like the OPI issue is definitely something Corley can work with the receivers on in practice. Do you think there's anything at all he can do about the drops?
 
PSU Soupy, Berkstater, HazletonLion, BarkleyPSU1, PoconoLion, stormingnorm, jbenedict, toboyer, mcgunns, Roswell-Blue, djr4rebs are just a few of the posters who contributed to a meaningful and productive conversation.

And with that, I do have to apologize to those posters for my earlier generalization that every post other than tboyer's was crap...because they all found a way to enlighten the conversation without being personally offended at the topic.

So back on track...I feel like the OPI issue is definitely something Corley can work with the receivers on in practice. Do you think there's anything at all he can do about the drops?

Don't act so innocent, you started this thread for one reason - to disparage a coach and his players.

My original post received more likes than any other post in this thread. I, and others including the ones you have posted, see through your act. You are a poster from the veins of MilesKaufmann/LionRevival/21Guns. You look for problems. You whine about these problems. The arguments are all the same. Pull this players redshirt, this coach isn't good, Franklin is a poor gameday coach, or whatever else you want to obsess over. You whined about it in the gameday thread all day yesterday, and then, when you didn't get enough attention there, created separate thread to disparage and whine some more.
 
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It's the execution. It's not the design of the play at all. Rub routes are very common, lots of people use it, NFL teams use it, but the "blocking" wideout has to act like they're not blocking.

They have to run the route like they're running a pass route that just HAPPENS to be in the way of the defender. If they're looking at the QB as if anticipating the pass, that helps sell it. If they run a smooth curve that just happens to intersect with the defender, that helps sell it. Also, don't put up their hands in a BLOCKING POSITION -- that should be a no brainer.

It's pretty much the same as the rule in basketball. It's not legal to pick the defender but it IS legal for that receiver to run whatever route he wants to, even if he "inadvertently" gets in the way of the defender. It has to look inadvertent is the key.

In both cases the last two weeks the PSU receiver technique was totally wrong and it was an easy flag. In JJ's case against Pitt, JJ knows better, he was actually in a blocking position, I'm guessing he just had a brain freeze and forgot what he was supposed to be doing.

I was going to ask about that. I can’t remember the last time we had OPI called on us and now it’s happened two successive weeks. Is it the design of the play or is it poor execution? If it’s the design, why design a route that has a good chance of being flagged for OPI? If so, that’s on Rahne.
 
THANK YOU. This is the kind of knowledgeable info I was looking for! Not the stupid posts about “Its not the WR coach’s fault because WR coaches don’t do anything anyways.” I want to know if they’re going to get these guys coached up or if we should expect to watch this poor pass catching game all year.
Tough to coach hands, brah!
 
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