Letter to the editor: Barron has lost trust of alumni

[B_Levinson]

Today's CDT. Did Barron think he could do what he did without anybody saying anything about it?

http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/31/4773743/letter-to-the-editor-barron-has.html

 

[PSU-Knocker]

Slam dunk!

 

[Achowalogan]

Very sadly, as one who supports our alumni elected Trustees, I must agree... these are the only folks left to represent me and OUR university (and some of the newly elected alumni association folks)...overall, the Alumni Association does not represent me...we will continue to fight to bring the real truth to light, we have no other choice.....

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

Today's CDT. Did Barron think he could do what he did without anybody saying anything about it?

http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/31/4773743/letter-to-the-editor-barron-has.html

Well done / written, Bill. Concise and factual. I think you are most effective when you are able to write and publish these undeniably true pieces.

 

[GTACSA]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

 

[B_Levinson]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

Then why don't they step forward to defend Barron and the BOT?

 

[SEPATOPTEN]

Very sadly, as one who supports our alumni elected Trustees, I must agree... these are the only folks left to represent me and OUR university (and some of the newly elected alumni association folks)...overall, the Alumni Association does not represent me...we will continue to fight to bring the real truth to light, we have no other choice.....

Why do you say they don't represent you? Are your agenda and theirs different?

 

[martypsu]

Then why don't they step forward to defend Barron and the BOT?

Because they don't exist

 

[GTACSA]

Perhaps they have moved on with their lives and do not dwell in the past. Why should they have to defend Barron and the BOT? They are in control and moving forward. When you find the facts that show that state and local authorities were notified by Penn State of the MM's allegations, then that is a game changer.

 

[mbahses]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

Or in yours.

 

[Aoshiro]

Perhaps they have moved on with their lives and do not dwell in the past. Why should they have to defend Barron and the BOT? They are in control and moving forward. When you find the facts that show that state and local authorities were notified by Penn State of the MM's allegations, then that is a game changer.

This is still the United States of America and you have that exactly backwards. The state must prove 1) they were legally required to report (hint: they weren't) and 2) that they did not report (hint: good luck proving a negative).

There is no way that the trustees were right to throw away hundreds of millions of dollars and drag Penn State's reputation through the mud over such a completely bogus case.

 

[SEPATOPTEN]

This is still the United States of America and you have that exactly backwards. The state must prove 1) they were legally required to report (hint: they weren't) and 2) that they did not report (hint: good luck proving a negative).

There is no way that the trustees were right to throw away hundreds of millions of dollars and drag Penn State's reputation through the mud over such a completely bogus case.

That is not how the authorities see it
Those administrators made the wrong call in my opinion. The dominoes were started with them. The biggest mistakes of all were made by them.

 

[WeR0206]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

The fact that you and the rest of the OG BOT supporters/trolls continuously find the need to post in Bill's threads to try and denigrate his messages tells me that he is getting under the OG BOT's skin and he should keep on truckin'

 

[psu00]

Or in yours.

Exactly. You could just as easily say the overwhelming majority of alumni have no interest in the BoT agenda. When was the last time the GTACSA, 66, BoT, etc side actually won an election???? Where are all these people who they think support the BoT??? They don't exist.

 

[WeR0206]

That is not how the authorities see it
Those administrators made the wrong call in my opinion. The dominoes were started with them. The biggest mistakes of all were made by them.

Perhaps that's because the "authorities" are the one's who actually messed up re: monitoring of JS and his access to kids and not some college admins??

CSS may have made the wrong call in hindsight but how were they MORE responsible than JM and Dr. D (who were the 1st 2 people MM spoke to and who were both trained in protocols for reporting suspected child abuse)?

More responsible than PhD in Psychology/mandatory reporter/employer of JS/controller of JS access to kids Dr. Jack Raykovitz?? How were CS more responsible than the above mentioned experts in child abuse reporting when they all testified to being told the same thing-- a late night inappropriate shower that made a PSU GA uncomfortable.....Please do explain.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Perhaps they have moved on with their lives and do not dwell in the past. Why should they have to defend Barron and the BOT? They are in control and moving forward. When you find the facts that show that state and local authorities were notified by Penn State of the MM's allegations, then that is a game changer.

This is still the United States of America and you have that exactly backwards. The state must prove 1) they were legally required to report (hint: they weren't) and 2) that they did not report (hint: good luck proving a negative).

There is no way that the trustees were right to throw away hundreds of millions of dollars and drag Penn State's reputation through the mud over such a completely bogus case.

That is not how the authorities see it
Those administrators made the wrong call in my opinion. The dominoes were started with them. The biggest mistakes of all were made by them.

SEPATOPTEN - your response to Aoshiro does not contradict his post. He's 100% accurate in his response to GTACSA that in the USA, the State must prove their accusations. The "authorities" can see it any way that they'd like, but C/S/S are presumed to be innocent until the State proves otherwise to a judge & jury..

As for your statement that the administrators made the wrong call, it's premature, at best, to make a determination like that. All you have in the public sphere is the Grand Jury presentment. You haven't seen what the State has to support its charges. More importantly, you haven't seen what C/S/S have to disprove those charges.

Lastly, I think it's far too early to draw any conclusions as to who made the biggest mistakes. One side has presented part of its case with the Grand Jury presentment, while the other side hasn't presented anything.

 

[richmin3]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

Speak for yourself. I dare say the majority think otherwise! The last few elections seem to bear that out.

 

[91Joe95]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

Prove it.

 

[nittanymoops]

Why would anyone, even from the Move On crowd, trust a man who was 2nd choice (at least!) to a crook?

 

[ForesterGump]

Perhaps they have moved on with their lives and do not dwell in the past. Why should they have to defend Barron and the BOT? They are in control and moving forward. When you find the facts that show that state and local authorities were notified by Penn State of the MM's allegations, then that is a game changer.

Why is it that the move on crowd always goes back to the Sandusky mess? Many have moved on and still find the antics of the BOT and PSAA trying to marginalize the voice of the alumni by diluting their representation as nothing more than a corrupt, good-ole-boys club. Maybe you should move on and tell us why we should trust the BOT, the PSAA, and Barron. This is about governance of the university and representation of the alumni.

 

[NICNEM_PSU80]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

I disagree!

Just because many are quiet does not mean that we are not part of the silent majority. Integrity means something to most of us and until we know the truth we will not have our integrity back. That river runs very deep and we will not rest until we know the truth and make a statement of fact and we take back our University from the old guard traitors and either set Barron on the right course or replace him.

We are Penn State and the old guard BOT is not.

 

[lionlurker]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

Funny, but I haven't met any of them. Where do they hang out?

 

[PennSt8er]

GTACSA, behind the scenes is some illegal behavior by senior folks in the control group. It will be exposed. Get ready. This will play out like FIFA.

 

[mbahses]

Why would anyone, even from the Move On crowd, trust a man who was 2nd choice (at least!) to a crook?

The felon would have been a better choice. It takes guts to be a thief and crook.

 

[lionlurker]

It really is amazing that they wanted to hire a felon. I still can't get over that.

 

[bwifan]

Contrary to what you may think, the overwhelming majority of Penn State alums have either no interest in your continued crusade, or disagree with you.

hmmmm... post #5 and sounds and awful lot like a CR66 move on post..... just sayin...

 

[mbahses]

It really is amazing that they wanted to hire a felon. I still can't get over that.

You should make the connection between the felon and Lubert easily. The felon had Texas ties before he went to SUNY.

 

[bjf1984]

It really is amazing that they wanted to hire a felon. I still can't get over that.

Surprised that "they" would look to place a crook in the President's Office?

Why would that be a surprise......when the "they" we are talking about includes at least one criminal, and a roster full of folks with various nefarious actions on their resumes.

Doesn't surprise me a bit. Birds of a feather.........

(FWIW, LL, I know you are aware of all that stuff........but - of course - except for the few that follow this stuff closely, most still do not)

 

[bjf1984]

You should make the connection between the felon and Lubert easily. The felon had Texas ties before he went to SUNY.

Ira Lubert = Lou Lederer?


IDK......but if true, would it (should it?) surprise anyone?

 

[simons96]

(why do I feel like a broken record?)

for the 7 millionth time, the state itself has conceded that what C/S/S did in 2001 did not violate the law at the time.

why do people keep saying that?

 

[mbahses]

Ira Lubert = Lou Lederer?


IDK......but if true, would it (should it?) surprise anyone?

The "Move on" and "Penn State Lives Here" PR firm? See if you can guess where they're from.

 

[step.eng69]

Today's CDT. Did Barron think he could do what he did without anybody saying anything about it?

http://www.centredaily.com/2015/05/31/4773743/letter-to-the-editor-barron-has.html

Thanks' again Bill./..will send this post to all of my PSU connected family, friends & colleagues