Mad Bum pitches a 7-inning no-hitter

[LafayetteBear]

I just saw on the Web a news report bearing the same title as this thread. Naturally, I had to click on it and read it, because a no-hitter has, as far as I am aware, always had to be nine or more innings of no hit ball. (The link to the news report is set forth below.)

Sure enough, a no-hitter DOES have to be nine-plus innings in order to be recorded as an official no-hitter in the MLB record book. So how did Mad Bum pitch only a seven inning no hitter? Because, as noted in the article, MLB honchos apparently decided last year to make each game of a double header a seven inning game ONLY. So he won't get credit for an official no-hitter.

WTF?! Put a runner on second to start each extra inning. Make games seven innings, just like in Little League. What's next?! (If you have gleaned my disappointment with these rules changes, you would be correct.)

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[interrobang]

If the rules dictate the length of the game, then it should count as a no hitter.

 

[PearlSUJam]

I just saw on the Web a news report bearing the same title as this thread. Naturally, I had to click on it and read it, because a no-hitter has, as far as I am aware, always had to be nine or more innings of no hit ball. (The link to the news report is set forth below.)

Sure enough, a no-hitter DOES have to be nine-plus innings in order to be recorded as an official no-hitter in the MLB record book. So how did Mad Bum pitch only a seven inning no hitter? Because, as noted in the article, MLB honchos apparently decided last year to make each game of a double header a seven inning game ONLY. So he won't get credit for an official no-hitter.

WTF?! Put a runner on second to start each extra inning. Make games seven innings, just like in Little League. What's next?! (If you have gleaned my disappointment with these rules changes, you would be correct.)

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If there's no hits when the game is over, it's a no hitter. AZ almost no hit them in the first game of the double header as well. As a Braves fan, today sucked. Injuries have been a major factor. There's still 141 left.

 

[Bob78]

Even with MLB no longer counting rain- or darkness-shortened (old days) no-hitters as official no-hitters, this non-no-hitter is absurd on MLB's part. It is their own stupid rule about a double header game being shortened to 7 innings! It is de facto not a shortened game. They changed the definition of what constitutes a full, completed game, so what else should matter?!

WHAT IF.... a 7 inning game goes into extras, and a pitcher has a perfect game going. He returns to the mound for the 8th. The 8th inning starts with a runner on 2nd.... is it no longer a perfect game, as a runner has reached base?! If it is still a perfecto, hmmm. If not, wtf?! Come on, MLB!

And while they are correcting common-sense wrongs, they should count Armando Galarraga's 2010 perfect game that wasn't due to an obvious umpire error as a perfect game. That one has always bothered me. Simple to reverse, not even a close call.

Sports are the great diversion, but collectively, the powers that be in sports out- and over-think themselves as much or more than anywhere else in the country.

As George Carlin said, "Of course there's no reason for it; it's just our policy."

 

[dougt24]

FYI. Harvey Haddix of the Pirates pitched 12 perfect innings and was not credited for a no-hitter as he gave up a hit in the 13th.

 

[NittanyBuff24]

If the rules dictate the length of the game, then it should count as a no hitter.

I have a hard time going with a 7inning no hitter, thousands of guys have gone 7-8 innings of no hit ball in history. I get that is an official game currently in a double header, but If your going to call it a no-no, better have an asterisk beside it imho..

 

[Obliviax]

I just saw on the Web a news report bearing the same title as this thread. Naturally, I had to click on it and read it, because a no-hitter has, as far as I am aware, always had to be nine or more innings of no hit ball. (The link to the news report is set forth below.)

Sure enough, a no-hitter DOES have to be nine-plus innings in order to be recorded as an official no-hitter in the MLB record book. So how did Mad Bum pitch only a seven inning no hitter? Because, as noted in the article, MLB honchos apparently decided last year to make each game of a double header a seven inning game ONLY. So he won't get credit for an official no-hitter.

WTF?! Put a runner on second to start each extra inning. Make games seven innings, just like in Little League. What's next?! (If you have gleaned my disappointment with these rules changes, you would be correct.)

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wow...I didn't realize that this was a 7 inning game. I thought, after reading the headlines, he had exceeded his pitch count and was taken out of the game. Unreal and an unintended consequence of the 7 inning game rule. Ouch.

 

[MJG-90]

WTF?! Put a runner on second to start each extra inning. Make games seven innings, just like in Little League. What's next?! (If you have gleaned my disappointment with these rules changes, you would be correct.)

FYI. Harvey Haddix of the Pirates pitched 12 perfect innings and was not credited for a no-hitter as he gave up a hit in the 13th.

What happens to a perfect game in extra innings? Runner on second is no fault of the pitcher. He gets a ground out to first, runner advances. Fly ball to center, runner tags and scores. Also gets out the third batter. So pitcher has gotten out every batter he’s faced, but the runner scored. Is it still a perfect game?

 

[LionJim]

What happens to a perfect game in extra innings? Runner on second is no fault of the pitcher. He gets a ground out to first, runner advances. Fly ball to center, runner tags and scores. Also gets out the third batter. So pitcher has gotten out every batter he’s faced, but the runner scored. Is it still a perfect game?

No. Babe Ruth once walked the first batter of the game and got thrown out for arguing. The guy got caught stealing on the next pitch and then it was 26 up and 26 down. Not a perfect game.

The quasi-perfect game that started ... after the Babe punched an umpire

While there are 19 combined no-hitters in Major League history, we can safely say that the one tossed by Babe Ruth and Ernie Shore on June 23, 1917, is unlike any of the others. It doesn't count as one of the 24 perfect games in AL/NL history -- a list

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[Bob78]

I have a hard time going with a 7inning no hitter, thousands of guys have gone 7-8 innings of no hit ball in history. I get that is an official game currently in a double header, but If your going to call it a no-no, better have an asterisk beside it imho..

I'm ok with an asterisk noting it is other than a 9 inning game. But to not consider it an official no-hitter is crazy imo.

Another question to baseball, piggybacking on your thought.... should a 7 inning game also require a team to win by X runs (i.e. >1), because teams have come back from 1 run deficits in the 8th and 9th innings to win games thousands of times? Or maybe asterisks are a good idea for those 1-run wins as well. Or 2 runs. Or whatever the cutoff should be per another arbitrary MLB rule.... maybe all wins in less or more than 9 innings?

The fact that they are playing 7 inning games in a 162 game season with a schedule not built for multiple contingencies is bizarre enough.

Imo, it is either a complete game per the rules, or it is not. And the stats and records that occur in that game should count, even if noted by an asterisk.

 

[Bob78]

No. Babe Ruth once walked the first batter of the game and got thrown out for arguing. The guy got caught stealing on the next pitch and then it was 26 up and 26 down. Not a perfect game.

The quasi-perfect game that started ... after the Babe punched an umpire

While there are 19 combined no-hitters in Major League history, we can safely say that the one tossed by Babe Ruth and Ernie Shore on June 23, 1917, is unlike any of the others. It doesn't count as one of the 24 perfect games in AL/NL history -- a list

www.mlb.com

I posed the same question about a perfect game in an earlier post. Imo, the circumstance you cite and the scenario mentioned by both me and MJG are different enough that the older game should not be used as a basis for the ruling under the current extra innings rules.

 

[psykim]

In my opinion, if is scheduled as a 7 inning game and a pitcher does not allow a hit, it should
count as a no hitter. I do not like 7 inning games but possibly they are here to say. Why should
a pitcher be punished. It is different than a rain out which ends a 9 inning game early.Again, the
pitcher threw a complete game and allowed no hits; i think the 9 inning rule is not right, but just one person's opinion.