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MBB vs Iowa

Don’t forget about Shep!

Very true. I was thinking more of Carr since he had the opportunity to play another year. From what we've seen this season, one might say they can't blame Tony for leaving.
 
Had enough? 0-7. Don't see 10 wins on the year for this team. Are Stevens, Watkins and Reeves any better now then when they arrived on campus?
Well......many people on this board undoubtedly think I'm a dark cloud on this board ....but yes those 3 are better players than when they arrived on campus by a mile.
 
Pat is done. It is January 16 and the NIT has been foreclosed unless we win out. Think about that.
 
Illinois gained their first conference victory tonight: 95-68 over Minny.

Which makes PSU’s visit to Minny this coming Sat that much tougher.
 
Impossible to be worse.

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I hate to think about it, but the chance of a winless Big Ten MBB season is significant.
 
I hate to think about it, but the chance of a winless Big Ten MBB season is significant.
Pitt went winless in the ACC last year and hired a new coach, Jeff Capel, who has done a very good job of making them rather competitive; they've already beaten Louisville and FSU this year. I can't believe that Pitt's current roster is that much better than PSU's. Coaching does make a difference.
 
Pitt went winless in the ACC last year and hired a new coach, Jeff Capel, who has done a very good job of making them rather competitive; they've already beaten Louisville and FSU this year. I can't believe that Pitt's current roster is that much better than PSU's. Coaching does make a difference.
Capel inherited a much worse roster than any team Penn State has put on the floor in over a decade (that Pitt team last year was one of the worst in the history of major conference basketball). He added three freshmen and a grad transfer who are playing major minutes, but they weren’t any higher regarded as recruits than Dread, Bolton, and Jones were last year. They didn’t have anything resembling Stevens, Watkins, or Reaves on their roster when Capel arrived. The difference is that the offensive scheme that Capel is running is the kind of scheme we all *hoped* Pat would be able to run, and it shows.
 
Well......many people on this board undoubtedly think I'm a dark cloud on this board ....but yes those 3 are better players than when they arrived on campus by a mile.
Disagree.. Watkins is better, wholeheartedly agree. Stevens, not so much and Reaves, other than 3 point shooting, he is not. His offensive game has not developed other than that. He was always a great defender and athlete who was looking to find others for shots but his ball handling is not better and neither is his decision making.
 
This team is much worse than the 2015 team, which makes absolutely no sense given how recruiting unfolded after that. I don’t know what is wrong with this coaching staff but they need to go.
 
Disagree.. Watkins is better, wholeheartedly agree. Stevens, not so much and Reaves, other than 3 point shooting, he is not. His offensive game has not developed other than that. He was always a great defender and athlete who was looking to find others for shots but his ball handling is not better and neither is his decision making.

One of the problems is that Stevens believes he is better, which has translated into him firing up bricks for long stretches of games, and those stretches can not be recovered from by the rest of this roster.
 
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One of the problems is that Stevens believes he is better, which has translated into him firing up bricks for long stretches of games, and those stretches can not be recovered from by the rest of this roster.


Stevens: 4-18 last night!
 
Disagree.. Watkins is better, wholeheartedly agree. Stevens, not so much and Reaves, other than 3 point shooting, he is not. His offensive game has not developed other than that. He was always a great defender and athlete who was looking to find others for shots but his ball handling is not better and neither is his decision making.
All three are better than when they played their first game as a freshman. From a physical maturation stand point alone they are clearly better players. We are not talking about are they as good as we think they should be with good coaching and a more structured system.
 
Stevens needs to stop shooting 3 pointers. The talent is not being developed. There are usually growing pains with freshmen but they are not getting better. That is coaching. My High School has a coach who is loaded with talent year after year, wins because of weak opposition. He is probably the easiest team that anyone can't scout. He never changes defenses and only wants to jack up 3s and fast break.
 
I couldn't believe how many times they gave up the base line and let Iowa get to the hoop down low.
That's just bad defense and coaching.
Sad. Last year was fun (we saw the win a ND)......
 
Should be a W tonight if they play their game. Iowa won’t have their leading score and isn’t very good. Only beat Pitt by 1.


Looks like it took new Pitt coach a whopping two months to get Pitt some nice wins. Thanks For the VaTech coaching staff. Makes the winter not seem like a total loss.
 
All three are better than when they played their first game as a freshman. From a physical maturation stand point alone they are clearly better players. We are not talking about are they as good as we think they should be with good coaching and a more structured system.
Ehhh, weak point. Of course they are marginally better they have played 3-4 more years of ball. But outside of Watkins has anyone gotten any better than they would have by sheer individual practice on their own? No
 
Ehhh, weak point. Of course they are marginally better they have played 3-4 more years of ball. But outside of Watkins has anyone gotten any better than they would have by sheer individual practice on their own? No
More importantly, have they gotten better as a team? The answer is no.
 
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Ehhh, weak point. Of course they are marginally better they have played 3-4 more years of ball. But outside of Watkins has anyone gotten any better than they would have by sheer individual practice on their own? No
Of course ....you know I agree with you from a team standpoint. I think the lack of system has held Stevens and Watkins back immensely because the offense doesn't set them up to receive the ball in a position to score. I think it often shows up in a lack of patience with the team trying to force the action rather than running an offensive set. Hopefully, Reaves can get a shot in the NBA to reward his defensive efforts.
 
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