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McQueary trial: Erickson testifies

BELLEFONTE - Former Penn State President Rodney Erickson told a Centre County jury Monday that he made the Nov. 10, 2011 decision to take Mike McQueary off Penn State's active football coaching staff for safety reasons.

"We were receiving a regular stream of threats and some of the most awful, vile hateful emails that I've ever seen," noted Erickson, who had just received his own battlefield promotion to president in the aftermath of Jerry Sandusky's arrest on child sex abuse charges.

"We'd had a riot the night before downtown, where students had torn up a lot of property... We simply felt that under the circumstances that would be the best way to keep Mike safe, and minimize the chances of any general disturbances, otherwise," Erickson said as McQueary's whistleblower suit against Penn State entered its second week.



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Erickson took the stand after some mop-up cross-examination of McQueary that largely rehashed testimony from Friday.

The essence of McQueary's case, is that he – as the only PSU football assistant to speak out to investigators on Sandusky allegations, and therefore something of a lightning rod for public reaction - was singled out and treated differently by the university than other Paterno staffers who did not come forward.

For a whistle-blower suit to succeed, the plaintiff must prove a direct connection between a termination and a good faith report by the employee of wrongdoing that was adverse to his employer's interest.

If that's established, then the burden shifts to the employer to prove that there were other reasons for whatever job action is at question, besides retaliation.

Judge Thomas Gavin, who will rule on the whistleblower count, quizzed Erickson Monday on his awareness of the state's whistleblower law when taking actions pertaining to McQueary.

Gavin has been exploring the question of whether safety was used as a pretext for the university's actions against McQueary as it tried to cut cords with anyone connected to the Sandusky scandal.

Erickson said he had been briefed about the law because McQueary was a prosecution witness, and noted it was one reason Penn State made sure to continue paying McQueary everything he was contractually entitled to.

But McQueary's failure to return to Penn State employment in the long run, Erickson contended, was always going to be determined more "by who was the next football coach" than by anyone at Old Main.

Asked if McQueary would have been taken off leave had O'Brien wanted to hire him, Erickson said that was "certainly possible."

Erickson noted that O'Brien, hired in January 2012, was prepared to come in to State College with a full staff of assistants.

He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation."

McQueary is seeking $4 million in damages from Penn State – his estimate of the value of a lost Division I coaching career – because of what he sees as mistreatment by the university for his role in the Sandusky scandal.

Besides the whistleblower count, McQueary argues Penn State administrators' collective failure to act on his initial 2001 report was an intentional misrepresentation that's branded him as part of a Sandusky cover-up, and caused him "irreparable harm to his ability to earn a living, especially in his chosen profession of coaching football."

McQueary was placed on administrative leave within days of Sandusky's November 2011 arrest, initially, Penn State officials said, because they had security concerns about him continuing to coach in the aftermath of Joe Paterno's firing.

He let go at the expiration of his contract in June 2012. He was, however, eventually paid an 18-month severance at his old salary, which ran through calendar year 2013.

The university asserts that it paid McQueary his severance benefit even though it wasn't technically triggered because McQueary wasn't formally dismissed until after the expiration of his 2011-12 contract.

Attorney Nancy Conrad, representing Penn State, countered the university wants justice for all in the Sandusky scandal, did act out of concern for McQueary in placing him on leave.

Conrad has also added that if McQueary is perceived as a guy who didn't do enough to stop Sandusky because he didn't go directly to the police in 2001, that's a perception that the university could not control.

But, "he should not be permitted to exploit the tragedy of the crimes of Jerry Sandusky for his own personal gain."
 
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The Incompetent Amoeba Speaks Again
He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation."


So Mr. Geography felt qualified to pass judgement on the most competent, nationally-respected members of JoePa's staff? That has to make Tom Bradley feel really good.

It suggests to me that Joyner and Lubert wanted Tom Bradley sent packing ASAP. It's no wonder PSU continues to be so screwed-up when you have pin-head academics making critical decisions like this.
 
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He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation
."
So Rod, if you wanted, you could have told BO'B to keep MM as well?? And those 2 were a step above the rest? Really?? Scrap wasn't?? Why were they a step above the rest?? Because with JVP as HC the talent was allocated to Defense first?? It sounds like someone edumacted Rod here. Why would Rod care if there was continuity in the football program?
 
BELLEFONTE - Former Penn State President Rodney Erickson told a Centre County jury Monday that he made the Nov. 10, 2011 decision to take Mike McQueary off Penn State's active football coaching staff for safety reasons.

"We were receiving a regular stream of threats and some of the most awful, vile hateful emails that I've ever seen," noted Erickson, who had just received his own battlefield promotion to president in the aftermath of Jerry Sandusky's arrest on child sex abuse charges.

"We'd had a riot the night before downtown, where students had torn up a lot of property... We simply felt that under the circumstances that would be the best way to keep Mike safe, and minimize the chances of any general disturbances, otherwise," Erickson said as McQueary's whistleblower suit against Penn State entered its second week.



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Erickson took the stand after some mop-up cross-examination of McQueary that largely rehashed testimony from Friday.

The essence of McQueary's case, is that he – as the only PSU football assistant to speak out to investigators on Sandusky allegations, and therefore something of a lightning rod for public reaction - was singled out and treated differently by the university than other Paterno staffers who did not come forward.

For a whistle-blower suit to succeed, the plaintiff must prove a direct connection between a termination and a good faith report by the employee of wrongdoing that was adverse to his employer's interest.

If that's established, then the burden shifts to the employer to prove that there were other reasons for whatever job action is at question, besides retaliation.

Judge Thomas Gavin, who will rule on the whistleblower count, quizzed Erickson Monday on his awareness of the state's whistleblower law when taking actions pertaining to McQueary.

Gavin has been exploring the question of whether safety was used as a pretext for the university's actions against McQueary as it tried to cut cords with anyone connected to the Sandusky scandal.

Erickson said he had been briefed about the law because McQueary was a prosecution witness, and noted it was one reason Penn State made sure to continue paying McQueary everything he was contractually entitled to.

But McQueary's failure to return to Penn State employment in the long run, Erickson contended, was always going to be determined more "by who was the next football coach" than by anyone at Old Main.

Asked if McQueary would have been taken off leave had O'Brien wanted to hire him, Erickson said that was "certainly possible."

Erickson noted that O'Brien, hired in January 2012, was prepared to come in to State College with a full staff of assistants.

He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation."

McQueary is seeking $4 million in damages from Penn State – his estimate of the value of a lost Division I coaching career – because of what he sees as mistreatment by the university for his role in the Sandusky scandal.

Besides the whistleblower count, McQueary argues Penn State administrators' collective failure to act on his initial 2001 report was an intentional misrepresentation that's branded him as part of a Sandusky cover-up, and caused him "irreparable harm to his ability to earn a living, especially in his chosen profession of coaching football."

McQueary was placed on administrative leave within days of Sandusky's November 2011 arrest, initially, Penn State officials said, because they had security concerns about him continuing to coach in the aftermath of Joe Paterno's firing.

He let go at the expiration of his contract in June 2012. He was, however, eventually paid an 18-month severance at his old salary, which ran through calendar year 2013.

The university asserts that it paid McQueary his severance benefit even though it wasn't technically triggered because McQueary wasn't formally dismissed until after the expiration of his 2011-12 contract.

Attorney Nancy Conrad, representing Penn State, countered the university wants justice for all in the Sandusky scandal, did act out of concern for McQueary in placing him on leave.

Conrad has also added that if McQueary is perceived as a guy who didn't do enough to stop Sandusky because he didn't go directly to the police in 2001, that's a perception that the university could not control.

But, "he should not be permitted to exploit the tragedy of the crimes of Jerry Sandusky for his own personal gain."

Good Lord - who wrote that crap?

Scary thing is - 90% of the "readers" probably won't even notice. :-(


EDIT - I see it was Charlie. It all makes "sense" now :)
 
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He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation
."
So Rod, if you wanted, you could have told BO'B to keep MM as well?? And those 2 were a step above the rest? Really?? Scrap wasn't?? Why were they a step above the rest?? Because with JVP as HC the talent was allocated to Defense first?? It sounds like someone edumacted Rod here. Why would Rod care if there was continuity in the football program?

You're correct Sluggo had me scratching my head as well.... The Rod thought 2 position coaches were a step above the defensive coordinator... o_O Dear Lord how much damage can a person do to a university....
 
The Incompetent Amoeba Speaks Again

BELLEFONTE - Former Penn State President Rodney Erickson told a Centre County jury Monday that he made the Nov. 10, 2011 decision to take Mike McQueary off Penn State's active football coaching staff for safety reasons.

"We were receiving a regular stream of threats and some of the most awful, vile hateful emails that I've ever seen," noted Erickson, who had just received his own battlefield promotion to president in the aftermath of Jerry Sandusky's arrest on child sex abuse charges.

"We'd had a riot the night before downtown, where students had torn up a lot of property... We simply felt that under the circumstances that would be the best way to keep Mike safe, and minimize the chances of any general disturbances, otherwise," Erickson said as McQueary's whistleblower suit against Penn State entered its second week.

Erickson took the stand after some mop-up cross-examination of McQueary that largely rehashed testimony from Friday.

The essence of McQueary's case, is that he – as the only PSU football assistant to speak out to investigators on Sandusky allegations, and therefore something of a lightning rod for public reaction - was singled out and treated differently by the university than other Paterno staffers who did not come forward.

For a whistle-blower suit to succeed, the plaintiff must prove a direct connection between a termination and a good faith report by the employee of wrongdoing that was adverse to his employer's interest.

If that's established, then the burden shifts to the employer to prove that there were other reasons for whatever job action is at question, besides retaliation.

Judge Thomas Gavin, who will rule on the whistleblower count, quizzed Erickson Monday on his awareness of the state's whistleblower law when taking actions pertaining to McQueary.

Gavin has been exploring the question of whether safety was used as a pretext for the university's actions against McQueary as it tried to cut cords with anyone connected to the Sandusky scandal.

Erickson said he had been briefed about the law because McQueary was a prosecution witness, and noted it was one reason Penn State made sure to continue paying McQueary everything he was contractually entitled to.

But McQueary's failure to return to Penn State employment in the long run, Erickson contended, was always going to be determined more "by who was the next football coach" than by anyone at Old Main.

Asked if McQueary would have been taken off leave had O'Brien wanted to hire him, Erickson said that was "certainly possible."

Erickson noted that O'Brien, hired in January 2012, was prepared to come in to State College with a full staff of assistants.

He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation."


McQueary is seeking $4 million in damages from Penn State – his estimate of the value of a lost Division I coaching career – because of what he sees as mistreatment by the university for his role in the Sandusky scandal.

Besides the whistleblower count, McQueary argues Penn State administrators' collective failure to act on his initial 2001 report was an intentional misrepresentation that's branded him as part of a Sandusky cover-up, and caused him "irreparable harm to his ability to earn a living, especially in his chosen profession of coaching football."

McQueary was placed on administrative leave within days of Sandusky's November 2011 arrest, initially, Penn State officials said, because they had security concerns about him continuing to coach in the aftermath of Joe Paterno's firing.

He let go at the expiration of his contract in June 2012. He was, however, eventually paid an 18-month severance at his old salary, which ran through calendar year 2013.

The university asserts that it paid McQueary his severance benefit even though it wasn't technically triggered because McQueary wasn't formally dismissed until after the expiration of his 2011-12 contract.

Attorney Nancy Conrad, representing Penn State, countered the university wants justice for all in the Sandusky scandal, did act out of concern for McQueary in placing him on leave.

Conrad has also added that if McQueary is perceived as a guy who didn't do enough to stop Sandusky because he didn't go directly to the police in 2001, that's a perception that the university could not control.

But, "he should not be permitted to exploit the tragedy of the crimes of Jerry Sandusky for his own personal gain."

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So Mr. Geography felt qualified to pass judgement on the most competent, nationally-respected members of JoePa's staff? That has to make Tom Bradley feel really good. It suggests to me that Joyner and Lubert wanted Tom Bradley sent packing ASAP. It's no wonder PSU continues to be so screwed-up when you have pin-head academics making critical decisions like this.
WRT MM's "whistleblower" charge (one of the three elements in his suit):

Chalk one up for the plaintiff

Assuming there is any element of fact in the report.........
Rodney The Dickless - while trying to be the exact opposite - proves to be the BEST witness in MM's favor throughout the trials to date

Which probably shouldn't surprise anyone......that F-tard would be a good candidate for the Monty Python Twit of the Year competition :)
 
WRT MM's "whistleblower" charge (one of the three elements in his suit):

Chalk one up for the plaintiff

Assuming there is any element of fact in the report.........
Rodney The Dickless - while trying to be the exact opposite - proves to be the BEST witness in MM's favor throughout the trials to date

Which probably shouldn't surprise anyone......that F-tard would be a good candidate for the Monty Python Twit of the Year competition :)
so is part of this a bench trial and part jury trial?? I read this..'Judge Thomas Gavin, who will rule on the whistleblower count, quizzed Erickson Monday on his awareness of the state's whistleblower law when taking actions pertaining to McQueary.'
 
Much like Stuart Scott's fear for the ESPN reporter on the scene's well being during the "riot." In Morgantown, I believe they refer to that type of behavior as simply Saturday night.


Yes, that deadly riot that put the fear of God into everyone as that pebble hit the ESPN reporter's pant leg. Remember that riveting report from the doorway of a business downtown? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
so is part of this a bench trial and part jury trial?? I read this..'Judge Thomas Gavin, who will rule on the whistleblower count, quizzed Erickson Monday on his awareness of the state's whistleblower law when taking actions pertaining to McQueary.'

judge rules on the whistle blower case and jury decides defamation and misrepsentation counts
 
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The Incompetent Amoeba Speaks Again
He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation."
Erickson is full of shit. What was the main reason Vanderlinden and Johnson were recommended to be retained?? It's simple. They didn't play for Joe nor did they leave college and immediately join the Penn State staff. I know, neither did guys like Kenney and Buggs but they didn't have the resumes of the other two. The goal of Erickson, et al, was to purge all deep connections to Joe.
 
The Incompetent Amoeba Speaks Again
He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation."


So Mr. Geography felt qualified to pass judgement on the most competent, nationally-respected members of JoePa's staff? That has to make Tom Bradley feel really good.

It suggests to me that Joyner and Lubert wanted Tom Bradley sent packing ASAP. It's no wonder PSU continues to be so screwed-up when you have pin-head academics making critical decisions like this.

It's just another lie. Wasn't it revealed that the players asked SPECIFICALLY for those two?

So, Erickson is pretending that choosing those two was HIS decision.
 
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Erickson is full of shit. What was the main reason Vanderlinden and Johnson were recommended to be retained?? It's simple. They didn't play for Joe nor did they leave college and immediately join the Penn State staff. I know, neither did guys like Kenney and Buggs but they didn't have the resumes of the other two. The goal of Erickson, et al, was to purge all deep connections to Joe.
well if you want to get down to it, other than PSU what was LJ's resume?
 
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well if you want to get down to it, other than PSU what was LJ's resume?

You missed the point. Jay, Galen Hall, Bradley, McQueary were all ex-PSU players that played for JoePa. PSU didn't want anybody connected that deep to stick around. LJ and Vandy both only came to PSU from other jobs and never had any connection to PSU or JoePa before coming to the staff. Kenny had been around since 1988 so a very long time. Anderson was retiring anyway. Buggs was the only guy that would have made sense along with Vandy and LJ as non-PSU lifers.
 
You missed the point. Jay, Galen Hall, Bradley, McQueary were all ex-PSU players that played for JoePa. PSU didn't want anybody connected that deep to stick around. LJ and Vandy both only came to PSU from other jobs and never had any connection to PSU or JoePa before coming to the staff. Kenny had been around since 1988 so a very long time. Anderson was retiring anyway. Buggs was the only guy that would have made sense along with Vandy and LJ as non-PSU lifers.
I understand your point, but there is/was only one reason LJ jumped from a HS to PSU, and that was JVP, so in reality he was as much a lifer as the ones you mentioned, only Rod didn't know any of that. There were other reasons BO'B would have wanted to keep LJ. It never made sense to me why he kept Vandy. But I get your point and it is well taken.
 
"For a whistle-blower suit to succeed, the plaintiff must prove a direct connection between a termination and a good faith report by the employee of wrongdoing that was adverse to his employer's interest."

That is simply not true. Whistleblowers are also protected from changes to their job duties. Placing McQueary on leave was illegal, unless he asked them to do it for him.
 
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I understand your point, but there is/was only one reason LJ jumped from a HS to PSU, and that was JVP, so in reality he was as much a lifer as the ones you mentioned, only Rod didn't know any of that. There were other reasons BO'B would have wanted to keep LJ. It never made sense to me why he kept Vandy. But I get your point and it is well taken.

the purge was on

maybe LJ realized he needed to bail before they got to him
 
He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation
."
So Rod, if you wanted, you could have told BO'B to keep MM as well?? And those 2 were a step above the rest? Really?? Scrap wasn't?? Why were they a step above the rest?? Because with JVP as HC the talent was allocated to Defense first?? It sounds like someone edumacted Rod here. Why would Rod care if there was continuity in the football program?
Now, let me be clear, I'm NOT saying this is true, but just that it's possible. How likely you can decide. It's possible he did recommend Scrap, and O'Brien didn't want him for whatever reason. Rather than say that on the stand, he left Scrap's name out of his testimony. A nice thing to do, so you can judge how likely.

It's also possible that Bradley comes with his own set of baggage that they'd rather not get into given the situation. It amazes me that no one in the fan base sees it. If true it could be why he hasn't ever had a head coaching gig, despite interviewing and his coaching record.
 
You're correct Sluggo had me scratching my head as well.... The Rod thought 2 position coaches were a step above the defensive coordinator... o_O Dear Lord how much damage can a person do to a university....
I think you're reading too much into it. It's unrealistic for the President to select a defensive coordinator for a newly hired coach. That should always be the option of the new coach. Position coaches are easier for the new coach to work around if they are not necessarily his first choice.
 
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Didn't Bradley state that he did not want to be anything but head coach at Penn State?
 
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Now, let me be clear, I'm NOT saying this is true, but just that it's possible. How likely you can decide. It's possible he did recommend Scrap, and O'Brien didn't want him for whatever reason. Rather than say that on the stand, he left Scrap's name out of his testimony. A nice thing to do, so you can judge how likely.

It's also possible that Bradley comes with his own set of baggage that they'd rather not get into given the situation. It amazes me that no one in the fan base sees it. If true it could be why he hasn't ever had a head coaching gig, despite interviewing and his coaching record.


Seriously, people, doe anyone believe that O'Brien gave one scintilla of value to this weathered turd's "recommendations?" This testimony is just like everything else that emanated from Rodless's mouth from the moment he became President: self-serving, worthless bullshit.
 
Seriously, people, doe anyone believe that O'Brien gave one scintilla of value to this weathered turd's "recommendations?" This testimony is just like everything else that emanated from Rodless's mouth from the moment he became President: self-serving, worthless bullshit.
Bing - Freaking - O!!

The fact that folks are debating and giving ANY weight to the words of Dickless the First.......about ANYTHING, let alone about "football"........is absolutely SMFH ludicrous
 
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