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McQueary trial: Erickson testifies

I surprised he said anything other than

I am so sorry PSU hurt so many people
I am so sorry The football team Hurt so many people
I am so sorry for everything that happened

That is all!
 
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Now, let me be clear, I'm NOT saying this is true, but just that it's possible. How likely you can decide. It's possible he did recommend Scrap, and O'Brien didn't want him for whatever reason. Rather than say that on the stand, he left Scrap's name out of his testimony. A nice thing to do, so you can judge how likely.

It's also possible that Bradley comes with his own set of baggage that they'd rather not get into given the situation. It amazes me that no one in the fan base sees it. If true it could be why he hasn't ever had a head coaching gig, despite interviewing and his coaching record.


Perjury over hurting Bradleys feelings...

I guess if Peetz told him to
 
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"Monday’s testimony concluded with Cleveland State Athletic Director John Parry testifying as an expert witness for McQueary. Parry prepared a report evaluating the effect of Spanier’s statement and Penn State’s subsequent handling of McQueary on his coaching career.

Parry echoed McQueary’s claim that Penn State’s treatment of him had poisoned his reputation and prospects of finding another job. He said while keeping McQueary out of one game for safety concerns made sense, he did not believe that was a valid reason to remove McQueary entirely from his job duties.

“They sent a message to every other school in the country that Mike McQueary did something wrong,” Parry said.

In reviewing McQueary’s performance reviews, coaching accomplishments and Penn State football’s status prior to November 2011, Parry estimated McQueary likely would have become and offensive coordinator or head coach in the next five to seven years. He also said McQueary is qualified to coach a number of positions.

Conrad, however, questioned both Parry’s expertise and conclusions. She noted that Cleveland State does not have a football program and he has not been involved with a school with a football team in 10 years. She pointed out that his prior experience with football came at Butler and Brown, both of which play at the FCS level. His last involvement with an open search for a football coach came in the 1990s.

Parry’s report, meanwhile, cited no athletic director or coach who chose not to hire McQueary.

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Wasn't there an article a few days ago about Joyner testifying that a group of the players came to him and asked that they retain LJ Sr and Vanderlinden? For erickson to pretend that he had an educated opinion on keeping Johnson and Vanderlinden is beyond laughable. Does rodney even know what a football looks like? Here's hoping the son of a bitch gets hit by a bus.

He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation
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So Rod, if you wanted, you could have told BO'B to keep MM as well?? And those 2 were a step above the rest? Really?? Scrap wasn't?? Why were they a step above the rest?? Because with JVP as HC the talent was allocated to Defense first?? It sounds like someone edumacted Rod here. Why would Rod care if there was continuity in the football program?
 
"Monday’s testimony concluded with Cleveland State Athletic Director John Parry testifying as an expert witness for McQueary. Parry prepared a report evaluating the effect of Spanier’s statement and Penn State’s subsequent handling of McQueary on his coaching career.

Parry echoed McQueary’s claim that Penn State’s treatment of him had poisoned his reputation and prospects of finding another job. He said while keeping McQueary out of one game for safety concerns made sense, he did not believe that was a valid reason to remove McQueary entirely from his job duties.

“They sent a message to every other school in the country that Mike McQueary did something wrong,” Parry said.

In reviewing McQueary’s performance reviews, coaching accomplishments and Penn State football’s status prior to November 2011, Parry estimated McQueary likely would have become and offensive coordinator or head coach in the next five to seven years. He also said McQueary is qualified to coach a number of positions.

Conrad, however, questioned both Parry’s expertise and conclusions. She noted that Cleveland State does not have a football program and he has not been involved with a school with a football team in 10 years. She pointed out that his prior experience with football came at Butler and Brown, both of which play at the FCS level. His last involvement with an open search for a football coach came in the 1990s.

Parry’s report, meanwhile, cited no athletic director or coach who chose not to hire McQueary.

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That was one helluva corroborating "expert witness." You would think they could have scared up someone who had been involved in an open search for a football coach in the 21st century.
 
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"Monday’s testimony concluded with Cleveland State Athletic Director John Parry testifying as an expert witness for McQueary. Parry prepared a report evaluating the effect of Spanier’s statement and Penn State’s subsequent handling of McQueary on his coaching career.

Parry echoed McQueary’s claim that Penn State’s treatment of him had poisoned his reputation and prospects of finding another job. He said while keeping McQueary out of one game for safety concerns made sense, he did not believe that was a valid reason to remove McQueary entirely from his job duties.

“They sent a message to every other school in the country that Mike McQueary did something wrong,” Parry said.

In reviewing McQueary’s performance reviews, coaching accomplishments and Penn State football’s status prior to November 2011, Parry estimated McQueary likely would have become and offensive coordinator or head coach in the next five to seven years. He also said McQueary is qualified to coach a number of positions.

Conrad, however, questioned both Parry’s expertise and conclusions. She noted that Cleveland State does not have a football program and he has not been involved with a school with a football team in 10 years. She pointed out that his prior experience with football came at Butler and Brown, both of which play at the FCS level. His last involvement with an open search for a football coach came in the 1990s.

Parry’s report, meanwhile, cited no athletic director or coach who chose not to hire McQueary.

"
Well.......

In this case - and particularly with how the Plaintiff attorney already squelched the issue last week (sigh) - was that discussed last week?

(If there was any thought of having this "report" carry some weight - it needed to be presented in lieu of the content discussed on Friday)

Anyway......It would appear that Parry's "expert testimony and analysis" is worth - for better or worse - something less than what it would cost for a cup of coffee at Scheetz
 
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Well.......

In this case - and particularly with how the Plaintiff attorney already squelched the issue last week (sigh) - was that discussed last week?

(If there was any thought of having this "report" carry some weight - it needed to be presented in lieu of the content discussed on Friday)

Anyway......It would appear that Parry's "expert testimony and analysis" is worth - for better or worse - something less than what it would cost for a cup of coffee at Scheetz

Not even a Scheetza Pizza.
 
When I was at penn state, there were two types of administrators

This that believed that the place was special
And low life turds who did nothing but cover their rears.
 
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Wasn't there an article a few days ago about Joyner testifying that a group of the players came to him and asked that they retain LJ Sr and Vanderlinden? For erickson to pretend that he had an educated opinion on keeping Johnson and Vanderlinden is beyond laughable. Does rodney even know what a football looks like? Here's hoping the son of a bitch gets hit by a bus.

And, further 'said' bus backs up again and again and again to make sure that no one ever has to hear anything further from Erick-dickless-son!!!
 
Does anyone actually believe Rod Erickson had anything to do with the recommendation to retain Vanderlinden or Johnson?

Rod Erickson had very little exposure to athletics at Penn State.

More likely Fester and his close friend made that call. Of course, this was after Tom Bradley was undermined.
 
The Incompetent Amoeba Speaks Again
He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation."


So Mr. Geography felt qualified to pass judgement on the most competent, nationally-respected members of JoePa's staff? That has to make Tom Bradley feel really good.

It suggests to me that Joyner and Lubert wanted Tom Bradley sent packing ASAP. It's no wonder PSU continues to be so screwed-up when you have pin-head academics making critical decisions like this.
Could it be because they actually thought a coach who lived in state college would be better to help in the transition then a guy who hightails it back to Pittsburgh as soon as the season ends? I think it would be critical to have a coach who is around. Also there is no way Bradley was going to take a job as a position coach and O'Brien wanted to hire his own coordinators. I am sure there was much more thought out into it then that simple quote.
 
Does anyone actually believe Rod Erickson had anything to do with the recommendation to retain Vanderlinden or Johnson?

Rod Erickson had very little exposure to athletics at Penn State.

More likely Fester and his close friend made that call. Of course, this was after Tom Bradley was undermined.
Do you actually think Bradley would have taken a job as a position coach like Vanderlinden or LJ did? The guy wanted the head job and I doubt he would have even taken a coordinators job.
 
I think you're reading too much into it. It's unrealistic for the President to select a defensive coordinator for a newly hired coach. That should always be the option of the new coach. Position coaches are easier for the new coach to work around if they are not necessarily his first choice.

I see your point, and agree in that the new coach should be able to select all his coaches not told what position coaches he can hire. I have a very hard time seeing O'Brien being told you need to hire these 2 position coaches. O'Brien is very experienced and a strong personality. His coaching network is limitless, why he had his whole staff assembled quickly before he stepped foot on campus. Rod could try and suggest to B'OB to hire these guys but he quickly said thanks but no thanks. In truth I am not sure Rod could spell football or knows what 1 looks like, for him to suggest coaches is just plain silly or trying to control the narrative/long time Joe coaches
 
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PSU was known for a mediocre offense and a very good defense. LJ & Vandy put a lot of DL & LBs into the NFL. Those are certainly the two I would have kept if I was O'Brien.

I assume that O'Brien insisted on his own coordinators but he was willing to keep LJ & Vandy in order to maintain some continuity.

I don't know if the players or Erickson had much of a say. I'm just saying that those are the two I would have kept. Of course I wouldn't have had a problem with Bradley as head coach. I'm pretty sure that the administration wasn't going to allow anybody from Joe's staff to take that role.
 
Do you actually think Bradley would have taken a job as a position coach like Vanderlinden or LJ did? The guy wanted the head job and I doubt he would have even taken a coordinators job.

He wasn't being considered for an assistant's job. Fester believed PSU needed to hire Tom to avoid a revolt by the Lettermen. Unfortunately, Tom was sabotaged.
 
WRT MM's "whistleblower" charge (one of the three elements in his suit):

Chalk one up for the plaintiff

Assuming there is any element of fact in the report.........
Rodney The Dickless - while trying to be the exact opposite - proves to be the BEST witness in MM's favor throughout the trials to date

Which probably shouldn't surprise anyone......that F-tard would be a good candidate for the Monty Python Twit of the Year competition :)
Well since you asked... and yes I could see Rod running himself over with a car.
 
The Incompetent Amoeba Speaks Again
He did say that he interjected at that point with the new coach, recommending that O'Brien retain Larry Johnson and Ron Vanderlinden in order to provide some continuity in the football program.

Pressed on why he recommended those coaches specifically, Erickson said it was because he believed they "were a step above the rest (of Joe Paterno's 2011 staff) in terms of their national reputation."


So Mr. Geography felt qualified to pass judgement on the most competent, nationally-respected members of JoePa's staff? That has to make Tom Bradley feel really good.

It suggests to me that Joyner and Lubert wanted Tom Bradley sent packing ASAP. It's no wonder PSU continues to be so screwed-up when you have pin-head academics making critical decisions like this.

I can't believe I'm defending Rod, but he clearly recognized FLO didn't know shit about defense.
 
Does anyone actually believe Rod Erickson had anything to do with the recommendation to retain Vanderlinden or Johnson?

Rod Erickson had very little exposure to athletics at Penn State.

More likely Fester and his close friend made that call. Of course, this was after Tom Bradley was undermined.

It does seem like someone else was pulling the strings. Hard to believe that Erickson even knew who the position coaches were. The question is why would he even agree to be the one to give the recommendation?

Makes you wonder what really happened when Vanderlinden was fired; wonder who really made that call.

How was Bradley undermined?
 
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He wasn't being considered for an assistant's job. Fester believed PSU needed to hire Tom to avoid a revolt by the Lettermen. Unfortunately, Tom was sabotaged.
If true........not hiring TB was the first good thing Fester accomplished - even if it was by accident :)


When an AD begins to let the wishes of former players dictate a Head Coach hiring decision - - - the road to ruin is in view.


TB did a fine job as a DC........
But there are plenty of reasons he's never been - and likely never will be - a Head Coach at a major college program........
And, personally, I like the guy


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BTW - Surprised (well, maybe not really) that no one has discussed this little ditty from Charlie Thompson. A classic Charlie Thompson shit-pot stirrer:

"The essence of McQueary's case, is that he – as the only PSU football assistant to speak out to investigators on Sandusky allegations, and therefore something of a lightning rod for public reaction - was singled out and treated differently by the university than other Paterno staffers who did not come forward."

Uh....Charlie.....what "other Paterno staffers" would you expect to come forward?
Would one expect - Charlie - that before someone "comes forward" they would be required to - you know - have SOMETHING to come forward about?

So Charlie....
Is there some reason Tom Bradley should have been expected to "come forward"?
Is there some reason Ron Vanderlinden should have been expected to "come forward"?
Is there some reason Larry Johnson should have been expected to "come forward"?
Is there some reason Jay Paterno should have been expected to "come forward"?
Is there some reason Galen Hall should have been expected to "come forward"?
Is there some reason Dick Anderson should have been expected to "come forward"?
Is there some reason Kermy Buggs should have been expected to "come forward"?
Is there some reason Bill Kenney should have been expected to "come forward"?
Is there some reason your Mother should have said "I've got a headache"?
(OK...scratch that last one. We know that answer)

If there is.....let's hear it, you douchebag.
If not.......STFU, you pot-stirring ass clown.
 
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If true........the first good thing Fester accomplished - even if it was by accident :)


When an AD begins to let the wishes of former players dictate a Head Coach hiring decision - - - the road to ruin is in view.

TB did a fine job as a DC........
But there are plenty of reasons he's never been - and likely never will be - a Head Coach at a major college program........
And, personally, I like the guy
I can't believe I'm going to say this, but... I agree with you.
 
"Monday’s testimony concluded with Cleveland State Athletic Director John Parry testifying as an expert witness for McQueary. Parry prepared a report evaluating the effect of Spanier’s statement and Penn State’s subsequent handling of McQueary on his coaching career.

Parry echoed McQueary’s claim that Penn State’s treatment of him had poisoned his reputation and prospects of finding another job. He said while keeping McQueary out of one game for safety concerns made sense, he did not believe that was a valid reason to remove McQueary entirely from his job duties.

“They sent a message to every other school in the country that Mike McQueary did something wrong,” Parry said.

In reviewing McQueary’s performance reviews, coaching accomplishments and Penn State football’s status prior to November 2011, Parry estimated McQueary likely would have become and offensive coordinator or head coach in the next five to seven years. He also said McQueary is qualified to coach a number of positions.

Conrad, however, questioned both Parry’s expertise and conclusions. She noted that Cleveland State does not have a football program and he has not been involved with a school with a football team in 10 years. She pointed out that his prior experience with football came at Butler and Brown, both of which play at the FCS level. His last involvement with an open search for a football coach came in the 1990s.

Parry’s report, meanwhile, cited no athletic director or coach who chose not to hire McQueary.

"
Hahahaha, one hell of an expert witness. McQ should have picked up a day laborer at Home Depot. Likely would have cost him less.
 
Conrad has also added that if McQueary is perceived as a guy who didn't do enough to stop Sandusky because he didn't go directly to the police in 2001, that's a perception that the university could not control.

But, "he should not be permitted to exploit the tragedy of the crimes of Jerry Sandusky for his own personal gain."

Exactly right, MM let himself be used by the PA OAG=L Kelley and Fina, once they put in the anal rape BS. They are the one's to blame for his reputation being mud and/or if he really did witness Sandusky sexual abusing a child and didn't help the poor kid. I can't stand the BOT but this is on MM in the his case.
 
After reading Rodney's testimony, I still can't figure out which side he was testifying for.

If MM's attorney had asked Rod who the leading trio of receivers in PSU history are and who coached them I bet there would be no doubt. Also if Rod knew all the members of the coaching staff, and when he first learned their names. Still, lots to use.
 
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