I don't appreciate the subtle trolling in this thread. Before you protest, it is obvious subtle trolling.
Wrestling Media Day: Cael Sanderson clarifies situation at 157-pounds and more
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This. I’m waiting for him to slip and make fun of Robbie Howard because Rutgers fans still can’t let that go
Yeah, 133 didn’t seem likely to me after what Cael said today. No idea about 157.
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Calling Mr Taylor, some programs are going to get some really quality kids.
Cael “we don’t care where the ballroom is, we just like to dance” Sanderson
I don't think kasak will red shirt, way to much talent in the pipeline. Facunda and kasak will battle it out. Loser to the portal next year unless facunda wants to be a free style only guy at the NLWC.
Let's go ahead and start the season already. Jesus Christ this is tedious 😂
If he's not the guy, he'll redshirt to preserve the year.
It’s starting to rival the parking garage traffic flow concerns
Except the general thought on this string is that Facundo is more likely. I find that a bit odd considering a weight cut and how each one looked last time we saw each one on a folkstyle mat: Facundo unable to pull the offensive trigger and going home early from NCAA while Kasak had a massive rip to the Podium. Feels like Kasak is the winner in the lineup.
I think you are going to be surprised by the version of Alex you see on the mat this season.
I think you are going to be surprised by the version of Alex you see on the mat this season.
I’m with ya. I get that Freestyle and Folk are different animals. But Alex took Jordan Burroughs down while he was trying to make an Olympic team. He also more or less handled Levi Haines. Those data points are >0.
I think you are going to be surprised by the version of Alex you see on the mat this season.
Kasak is a beast too—tenacious as they come, and that shouldn’t be undervalued for postseason success. But I’m ready to buy into the idea that Facundo is ready to win a title.
I think the version of Alex you are thinking about was pretty banged up and nowhere close to 100% nearly 20 months ago. I'm willing to see how it plays out, but I believe you are underestimating Alex.
Good, because I lot us believed 2 years ago that unless his neutral offense was significantly improved, he would be watching a lot of wrestling at PSU. Hopefully the neutral offense is greatly improved.
I think you are going to be surprised by the version of Alex you see on the mat this season.
Wasn’t Facundo also Dakes training partner that went to the Olympics with him? He’s had over a year to just train with the best guys in the world and only focus on getting better. Count me as one who thinks we see a very different and improved Facundo this season
If Alex is the 157, he'll almost certainly be on a Brady Berge like pitch count. He'll need a lot of random weekends off IMO and I have no idea how he won't crash in a 2 day weigh in tournament, let alone 3. Guess trust in the coaches.
If it is Alex and he is on a pitch count, I would expect some combination of Sealey's 5 dates (If he can make 157 idk), Connor Pierce and Dylan Evans covering those weekends off
I don't think many people (myself included) thought that a sucked down Facundo would win the spot over Kasak until Mineo posted that they had a wrestle-off and Facundo won. Obviously, that's not the end of the competition, but if he's winning in the room right now, that is something that is not insignificant.
Mineo also posted that Davis wrestled Nagao.
Also Cael picked kasak for the all star classic, backups are now wrestling at the all star classic?
And he could have... Just because Nagao is recovering from an injury doesn't necessarily mean he isn't wrestling. Willie said he was wrestling injured over the summer and was losing to Davis.
Honestly, when I saw that, I smiled because it gives Cael a free data point on Kasak without jeopardizing his eligibility this year.
See also: Connor McGonagal, Lehigh, 2023
At least one insider with direct ties to the program is saying Nagao didn't wrestle. It's obvious somebody is trolling Mineo with fake results.
The selection was made months ago. Mineo posted about the purported wrestle-off this week, so perhaps Cael's expectations were more in line with ours until they got into a quasi-real competition?
If the cut is so tough for him that he will struggle with consecutive weekends or 2 and 3 day tournaments, there is no way he'll be the starter, regardless of what he can do in a one-time wrestle-off or individual matches. Cael structures the entire season around nationals results. There is no way he'll use a guy who will be at a significant disadvantage in the national tournament even if he would be the best guy for the dual season.
Was about to say this… if there’s a “pitch count” he won’t be the starter
Per yesterday, Cael didn't think Levi would be able to be effective at 157 the last 2 years. Sometimes you just have be patient and see how things play out.
Really? Third place and has to transfer out seems an awful lot like writing someone off.
When Facundo doesn't have the option to redshirt, it doesn't matter if the starter's job gets taken from him in March. They can get Kasak enough matches wrestling at Opens as unattached so that he doesn't get a horrible seed at NCAA's.
If Facundo is on par with Kasak he is definitely ready to challenge for a title. My concern is the cut, but Levi struggled with that cut at the beginning of last season and owned it at the end.
What are you basing the struggle comment on? His early issues in having close bouts were related to a minor injury, not weight cut.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you're just being daft and not actually dumb enough to miss the entire context of the debate.
Well, that's just Levi's opinion...
