Michigan DE Rashan Gary scores a 9 on the wonderlic

[81b&w]

My son just told me Morris Claiborne scored a 4 when he came out of LSU, unreal

 

[sluggo72]

My son just told me Morris Claiborne scored a 4 when he came out of LSU, unreal

Wouldn’t that make him phi beta kappa at LSU?

 

[Judge Smails]

That almost matches his career sack total.

We have a new overhyped defensive end for Michigan. This guy had two sacks last year.

“Kwity Paye might be, technically, the best football player in the country,” Don Brown said. “I’m just sayin’. That guy? He’s hard to fool. I have no concerns about him."

 

[PSU Mike]

I'm curious about the mindset of someone that takes this news and tries to spin it as something bad about Penn State. How does that work, in your brain?

Don’t act so damned obtuse, Smails. The thread is about Gary’s score, and contains a bunch of posts about how it would be obvious he didn’t belong in college, with the clear implication that Michigan should be shamed for accepting him. I asked the (near - rhetorical) question as to whether we would have accepted a commitment from him. You know damned well it was a glass houses statement I was making.

 

[Judge Smails]

with the clear implication that Michigan should be shamed for accepting him

You got a quote for this part of it?

 

[PSU Mike]

You got a quote for this part of it?

Exactly what I meant by obtuse, Smails. And you can quote me on that.

 

[Judge Smails]

Exactly what I meant by obtuse, Smails. And you can quote me on that.

Done.

 

[rmem]

Multiple idiots here. You guys realize PSU really wanted Gary as well, you think he wouldn't have been admitted to PSU? The problem is bigger than Michigan or PSU.

 

[Madsol]

I had to look into what his major was - Bachelors in General Studies. From their website: https://lsa.umich.edu/lsa/academics/lsa-degrees/bachelor-in-general-studies--b-g-s--.html

"The Bachelor in General Studies (B.G.S.) is a highly interdisciplinary degree that allows students to combine and explore multiple subjects. Students who choose to pursue a B.G.S. work closely with their Newnan Advising Center advisor to create a course plan that feeds their curiosity while meeting the College of LSA’s graduation requirements.

The B.G.S. is unique in that:

• It does not require completion of distribution (Natural Sciences, Social Sciences, Humanities, etc.).
• It does not require completion of second language proficiency.
• It does not require a major.
• It DOES require 60 credits of coursework elected at the 300-level or above."

Does Penn State have anything similar these days as far as a major that is basically make up whatever you want to study and here's your degree?

They sure do, or at least did in 1990. And yours truly was the beneficiary. It's called General Arts and Sciences in the College of Liberal Arts. Second semester of my sophomore year I decided I didn't want to stay in my major. With prerequisite classes to take before the end of my sophomore year, there really was no other major I could change to other than General Arts and Sciences. It was a great major. Intro to Meteorology. History of Sports and History of the Olympics (both with Dr. John Lucas, an amazing professor). Intro to Sports Information. Lots of great classes. Problem was I was prepared for nothing. But at least I had a degree. Then I grew up a bunch and went on to grad school and a professional degree. But General Arts and Sciences saved me at PSU.

 

[BobPSU92]

We should not make light of dylsexia.

 

[bwifan]

That's wonderful that it worked out for you, of course.

But very few students - especially those of the working class - can afford to spend 4 years and $150,000 in exchange for a "Degree" which doesn't enhance their ability to make a living.

It is crazy the cost of getting a degree anymore versus the benefit. Barry I know this is a pet peeve of yours. Case in point... My nephew is 20 years old and 2+ years into his plumber apprenticeship with plumbers union in Philadelphia. He works on all the new skyscrapers. He is making good money and keeps getting certified in more and more things like welding, etc his pay keeps going up. There is a real shortage of skilled trade people. He was smart, knew he struggled in school and could not sit behind a desk all his life. So he went the trade route. Currently living with my sister he is banking large amounts of money already. His friends are looking at what he will have banked in 4 years versus what they are going to have debt wise when they graduate college and are shaking their heads.

 

[poker1]

They sure do, or at least did in 1990. And yours truly was the beneficiary. It's called General Arts and Sciences in the College of Liberal Arts. Second semester of my sophomore year I decided I didn't want to stay in my major. With prerequisite classes to take before the end of my sophomore year, there really was no other major I could change to other than General Arts and Sciences. It was a great major. Intro to Meteorology. History of Sports and History of the Olympics (both with Dr. John Lucas, an amazing professor). Intro to Sports Information. Lots of great classes. Problem was I was prepared for nothing. But at least I had a degree. Then I grew up a bunch and went on to grad school and a professional degree. But General Arts and Sciences saved me at PSU.

Congratulations on realizing what an education is for and that it's not all $, unlike many on this board.
It 's unfortunate that so many can't afford a similar experience.

 

[Madsol]

That's wonderful that it worked out for you, of course.

But very few students - especially those of the working class - can afford to spend 4 years and $150,000 in exchange for a "Degree" which doesn't enhance their ability to make a living.

Absolutely agree. I wasn't really advocating for my approach, only that such a major does (or at least did) exist at Penn State.

 

[flash86]

Somebody better check into Sweat's score(s)... from 14 to 19. Hmmm... I'm thinking Lori Loughlin might have been involved... didn't Sweat used to tow at USC? Wait... maybe it's when you row you sweat?

A new business opportunity?

 

[bwifan]

Very true.

And I think it goes even beyond the $$$.... and can envelope all of that other stuff one normally associates with a "full and happy and worthwhile life".

FWIW:
I really like smart people, to the point that - if there is one area where people can absolutely accuse me of being prejudiced (and I wouldn't even pretend to disagree with them) - it is that I am extraordinarily bigoted towards the "adamantly stoopid".

Generally speaking, those folks who go to college are, I believe, made up of a demographic that has fewer "adamantly stoopid" people within them.... which is a good thing.

But, that does not mean that:

A) Going to college cures someone who matriculates as one of the adamantly stoopid (it most certainly does not - in fact, it may just exacerbate the symptoms)
or that
B) Not pursuing a higher education makes one adamantly stoopid (it most certainly does not)

Some of the most adamantly stupid people I've ever met have advanced degrees (almost as if they earned a PhD in Stoopid ). Just take a stroll through the halls of most Higher Education Administrations.
Some of the wisest folks I've ever met have never had a day of formal "education" past High School.

Life ain't always easy - for anyone, but it sounds like your Nephew is well on his way to a very good Life Gig.

Exactly. Why I am so proud of him. He was honest with himself and knew college wouldn't work for him. He loves working with his hands and creating things. Yes he had opportunity's to go to college for football and scholarship. He is 6-4 270 pounds currently and he was an OG in high school and blocked for Josh Adams in high school. I give him a lot of credit because he making really good money and banking a ton of it already. So many kids are pushed into college thinking that is where everyone goes and you should too.... Huge debt and average GPA and what does that get a kid when they graduate other than living in mom and dad's basement paying off huge college debt....

 

[PSUinCali]

Charles Woodson, Tom Brady, Steve Hutchinson, Brandon Graham, Jon Jansen , Ty Law , are also typical Michigan Men. Were they busts?

Perhaps you should just be worried about "We are a great team working on becoming elite". Even some in the national media laughed at that self absorbed statement by Franklin.

Franklin is also 1-3 versus Harbaugh, 3-11 versus MSU,OSU, Michigan since he took over. Sat next to a PSU student last year in AA and he just laughed/cried as Franklin kept switching out QB's.

How many BIG titles has scUM won vs. PSU since PSU joined the BIG? I thought so....

 

[phillybillyreprise]

They sure do, or at least did in 1990. And yours truly was the beneficiary. It's called General Arts and Sciences in the College of Liberal Arts. Second semester of my sophomore year I decided I didn't want to stay in my major. With prerequisite classes to take before the end of my sophomore year, there really was no other major I could change to other than General Arts and Sciences. It was a great major. Intro to Meteorology. History of Sports and History of the Olympics (both with Dr. John Lucas, an amazing professor). Intro to Sports Information. Lots of great classes. Problem was I was prepared for nothing. But at least I had a degree. Then I grew up a bunch and went on to grad school and a professional degree. But General Arts and Sciences saved me at PSU.

In 1965, I matriculated into the School of Liberal Arts with a major of General Arts and Sciences (GAS). In the Fall of 1967, I realized that my major qualified me to pump GAS or read GAS meters. I found a marketable major.