I was a bit disappointed to hear the booing when he was introduced. Sure he does not make many friends in the gyms but he is a collage athletic who is just trying to win and he's a PA kid to boot. I just don't see the need.
Mike Evans
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Agree on the college athlete angle, but if you've watched as many Evans matches as I have, and a lot of them first hand just like today, you may have an appreciation for people so inclined.
He's been a dirty wrestler against our guys. He's thrown elbows after the whistle on more than one occasion. If you act like that, then you lose the opportunity to hide behind the "he's just a college kid" shield.
His repeated behaviors over time have earned him the boos. So he was booed. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
His repeated behaviors over time have earned him the boos. So he was booed. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Wrong - Seen him most his career. Only live 30 min from CV. To boo a kid is acting like a kid. Plain and simple - we are the adults are we not.
Not a huge thing just disappointing is all. You are entitled to your opinions as am I.
Not a huge thing just disappointing is all. You are entitled to your opinions as am I.
what gets me about evan's continued behavior is what it says about brands.i would like to think that any penn state wrestling coach,going back to bill koll,would not have tolerated that kind of crap.i still remember koll getting in bertrand's face over some chippy behavior in a match.
I am not one to normally boo, especially college athletes. but it is a way of voicing disapproval and in this case it is about his behavior. No other iowa athletes were booed in introduction. perhaps (although unlikely) he will someday stop and contemplate why he receives this reaction and change his ways.
I'm not a big fan of booing guys either but Evans really does bring it on himself. He just got a team point deducted from Iowa Friday night against Maryland for some thuggery. What makes matters worse it he usually does it against overmatched opponents that are just trying to survive the match.
This post was edited on 2/9 7:55 AM by Flying_Tiger
This post was edited on 2/9 7:55 AM by Flying_Tiger
Isn't he the kid CV Administration suspended back in 2009? CV never commented publicly on the reason citing FERPA but there was some pretty nasty rumors circulating IIRC. Though this DID happen when he actually was a kid.
Good natured booing is not a big deal. He has been a "villan" which is a good thing. Makes it interesting... doesn't it?
Sat near a guy at Beaver Stadium that thought booing the other team was a sin against humanity, Never quite understood it.
Sat near a guy at Beaver Stadium that thought booing the other team was a sin against humanity, Never quite understood it.
Evans has been a bit of an ass as a wrestler. Frankly, any kid who leaves PA then comes back and wrestles against PSU should expect some booing.
I guess we shouldn't boo bad calls or ever complain about anything.
It was great to see that kid get his ass wiped all over the mat by Brown. He should have been hit with multiple stall calls.
This post was edited on 2/9 9:25 AM by SRATH
I guess we shouldn't boo bad calls or ever complain about anything.
It was great to see that kid get his ass wiped all over the mat by Brown. He should have been hit with multiple stall calls.
This post was edited on 2/9 9:25 AM by SRATH
Mike Evans has always been a bully. I don't mind the booing. Mike is what, 21-22 years old at this point? He doesn't have any problem bullying kids that are way out of their league when they wrestle him with the shoving, elbowing, etc. If you noticed he doesn't try to bully the top guys because he can't. Matt Brown physically dominates Mike Evans and Mike Evans is like any other bully, a total coward when it comes to trying to intimidate and shove/elbow opponents when they are out of bounds that he knows won't stand for it.
Hey Chief
Really don't think there's any hate involved. And conversion to the dark side??? C'mon man. Do you remember making some inflammatory remarks about the Altons when they were wrestling injured? On your board and here. Doubt there was any hate involved on your part.
Really don't think there's any hate involved. And conversion to the dark side??? C'mon man. Do you remember making some inflammatory remarks about the Altons when they were wrestling injured? On your board and here. Doubt there was any hate involved on your part.
Re: Mike Evans is Your Daddy C.S.
Was going to continue the Star Wars references...Iowa is the evil empire you know. It's a joke bro...have some fun. I could care less what you guys say about Mike Evans except this...He got a point taken for being chippy against Kokesh or Storely (memory fades) last year in the NCAAs. He has gotten chippy with Brown before. This was at Iowa and Brown smiled and whupped him...much like he did yesterday. Mike has since beaten him. I remember him shoving Perry in a dual. Let's not pretend he just does it against little bitty kids and old ladies. It's your board...so continue.
Re: Mike Evans is Your Daddy C.S.
if Mike wins that match and throws out the front double bis....Im pretty sure there would have been more boos. He gives as much as he gets.
Mike can handle it and Im sure to some extent enjoys it. In my mind we need villains as much as we need heroes.
if Mike wins that match and throws out the front double bis....Im pretty sure there would have been more boos. He gives as much as he gets.
Mike can handle it and Im sure to some extent enjoys it. In my mind we need villains as much as we need heroes.
The team point was deducted for throwing up a stalling sign after the match, because the official refused to call it. I would hardly call that thuggery. Mike gets chippy on the mat but he is far from a thug
Bingo.
Evans WANTS to be booed. Sometimes outright encourages it. Raises the stakes for him.
If we're honest with ourselves: Storley has had the (slightly) better college career, yet the fans enjoyed beating Evans more.
And if we're completely honest with ourselves: we mostly didn't mind Evans shoving Perry.
I'd be curious to see what career path Evans takes up after college. CIA operative or weapons dealer come to mind; just can't picture the guy sitting behind a desk.
Re: Mike Evans is Your Daddy C.S.
You're quite correct, AZ, Evans is an equal opportunity cheap shot artist. He'll be a dirty punk against anyone.
I have a lot of respect for the Iowa team as a whole and how hard they wrestle. Just not Evans, you don't have to be dirty to wrestle hard. The "kid" has earned the boos and if you're honest with yourself, you know that's very true.
This post was edited on 2/9 5:11 PM by NittanyChris
You're quite correct, AZ, Evans is an equal opportunity cheap shot artist. He'll be a dirty punk against anyone.
I have a lot of respect for the Iowa team as a whole and how hard they wrestle. Just not Evans, you don't have to be dirty to wrestle hard. The "kid" has earned the boos and if you're honest with yourself, you know that's very true.
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Re: The team point was deducted for throwing up a stalling sign after the match
No, it was the stalling sign and saying that their should have been a stalling call. Both of which occurred after the match was over, it it was well deserved (the penalty), as it was my belief that it was directed towards the official.
I don't like booing either, but I booed ISU's Gadson earlier this year when he taunted the crowd after a win, so I can't judge others and their reasons for booing. I think Evans thrives on being the bad guy, but let's not be hypocrites here, one of the loudest cheers outside of a PSU victory on Sunday came when one of your guys shoved an Iowa wrestler after the whistle and out of bounds. It wasn't viscous or penalty worthy, but it was a clear sign that this was going to be a battle and I was fine with it, especially since PSU backed it up all night long.
This post was edited on 2/9 5:40 PM by Neo_Hawk
No, it was the stalling sign and saying that their should have been a stalling call. Both of which occurred after the match was over, it it was well deserved (the penalty), as it was my belief that it was directed towards the official.
I don't like booing either, but I booed ISU's Gadson earlier this year when he taunted the crowd after a win, so I can't judge others and their reasons for booing. I think Evans thrives on being the bad guy, but let's not be hypocrites here, one of the loudest cheers outside of a PSU victory on Sunday came when one of your guys shoved an Iowa wrestler after the whistle and out of bounds. It wasn't viscous or penalty worthy, but it was a clear sign that this was going to be a battle and I was fine with it, especially since PSU backed it up all night long.
This post was edited on 2/9 5:40 PM by Neo_Hawk
Re: The team point was deducted for throwing up a stalling sign after the match
BS, the stalling sign wasn't directed at the ref, Evans got up in the face of the MD wrestler and it was obvious he was taunting the MD wrestler. Not a big deal IMHO as both were being very chippy, but I'm always going to call someone when they post something that just isn't true.
Re: Mike Evans is Your Daddy C.S.
Another job he might do: Guidance counselor. Imagine the bad kids getting pushed out the door as they exit his office.
Mike isn't strong like Brown, athletic like Storely, or nice technique like a Kokesh...what he has is attitude and grit. Sometimes this gets in the way of his wrestling and ability to think clearly. It's great when he's dominating or wrestling well but not a good look when he is losing. I don't need to be told anything as I have given my "honest" opinion over on HR. The top guys pay no attention while other opponents tend to lose their sh*t. Exhibit A: The Maryland match, Michigan St a few years ago, and others. They focus more on not being punked then they do on wrestling. Clearly, it works on the fans too because he has had several threads dedicated to him on opposing boards. Like him or not, fans talk about him.
Another job he might do: Guidance counselor. Imagine the bad kids getting pushed out the door as they exit his office.
Re: Mike Evans is Your Daddy C.S.
Azchief,...for me personally, your assessment is right on...so great post. I do think there's some anger management issues going on here that will plague him outside wrestling, but only time will tell. Good humor on the "guidance counselor" thing too.
I like Evans. I don't think he has ever done anything egregious on or off the mat.
Certainly, I wouldn' go so far as to call Evans "a dirty wrestler", but definitely chippy. Mike Evans has personality, personality goes a long way.
As far as a career path for Evans, I am hoping he follows the Johnny Hendricks model to MMA. IMO "the stache" not only has the toughness, he has the persona to be a successful UFC fighter.
Certainly, I wouldn' go so far as to call Evans "a dirty wrestler", but definitely chippy. Mike Evans has personality, personality goes a long way.
As far as a career path for Evans, I am hoping he follows the Johnny Hendricks model to MMA. IMO "the stache" not only has the toughness, he has the persona to be a successful UFC fighter.
I don't mind Evans either, I don't mind Brands and his over the top fire either. These guys are passionate about wrestling and they make things interesting for the casual fan. Mike encourages and feeds off the crowd, it is cheers at home and boos on the road. The louder the better for Mike with either result.
Wrestling is as mental as it it physical and Evans loves to try and get into people's heads. I don't have a problem with it. If you wrestle him and don't like it, push him back and show him you won't back down. It's a war out there and you have to hold your ground and stand up for yourself or he'll run you right over. Same with Gillman. He's the next 'stash!
I personally don't think he minds getting boo'ed at all. He probably even feeds off of it. He's doing what he thinks will result in wins for him and his team and as long as he doesn't cross the line and get penalized, there's nothing wrong with what he does. The kid goes all out for 7 minutes and doesn't willingly give up an inch. What's not to like?
Still glad Brown gave it to him this time, though!
I personally don't think he minds getting boo'ed at all. He probably even feeds off of it. He's doing what he thinks will result in wins for him and his team and as long as he doesn't cross the line and get penalized, there's nothing wrong with what he does. The kid goes all out for 7 minutes and doesn't willingly give up an inch. What's not to like?
Still glad Brown gave it to him this time, though!
Re: The team point was deducted for throwing up a stalling sign after the match
Seriously, the "it was my belief" part of the post is BS? Glad to you are an expert in my opinion. He was up in the opponents face and he did give him the stall sign, but it was MY BELIEF his words were directed at the official. I am glad that you feel the need to call me on a post that wasn't true. Hey, fair warning to all posters, if your opinion does not agree with NoVa Lion, then your opinion is BS and is just not true. I would like to state, however, if you a had personal conversation with Evans on this subject or in some way were actually inside his mind at the time he committed this penalty, they I humbly apologize and agree that you opinion is fact.
Seriously, the "it was my belief" part of the post is BS? Glad to you are an expert in my opinion. He was up in the opponents face and he did give him the stall sign, but it was MY BELIEF his words were directed at the official. I am glad that you feel the need to call me on a post that wasn't true. Hey, fair warning to all posters, if your opinion does not agree with NoVa Lion, then your opinion is BS and is just not true. I would like to state, however, if you a had personal conversation with Evans on this subject or in some way were actually inside his mind at the time he committed this penalty, they I humbly apologize and agree that you opinion is fact.
Glad to see there are some Stache fans. Always been a fan of Brown (except against Mike) and will miss these dudes at 174 when they are gone.I do think its a toss up and whoever has the hot hand at nationals is going to get it. Even Kokesh can be had by any of the three others. Whoever wins it will be well deserving.
You're spot on, psutim. That Brands allows the frequent elbows and shoves AFTER THE WHISTLE, is disappointing, because I really do like Brands. He could put an end to it easily as his coach.
And let's be clear here, this is not about Evans' intensity or grit DURING the match. I have a problem with his cheap shots and dirty play AFTER THE WHISTLE.
And AZ, I still love your posts, and in another post you said that you were "pretty honest about my guys". If this is the case, then you really shouldn't have a problem calling out Evans' long track record of cheap shots and unethical behavior. If you can't criticize this type of behavior, your objectivity is clearly in question.
And let's be clear here, this is not about Evans' intensity or grit DURING the match. I have a problem with his cheap shots and dirty play AFTER THE WHISTLE.
And AZ, I still love your posts, and in another post you said that you were "pretty honest about my guys". If this is the case, then you really shouldn't have a problem calling out Evans' long track record of cheap shots and unethical behavior. If you can't criticize this type of behavior, your objectivity is clearly in question.
Yea...Do you really expect me to run down an Iowa guy here on BWI in the name of objectivity? Not gonna happen sport. Have a simple rule...criticize Iowa guys on HR. A keep it in the family type of thing. As Cold Smoke mentioned above, I once made fun of Alton fading in the match against Michigan on HR. I was participating in schadenfreude at the expense of one of your guys when the correct move would have been to do it here where you guys can respond. Not that you couldn't there, but it's the principle and I was wrong in both intent and spirit. We tend to laugh/make fun/ be critical of each other's teams misfortunes so we sometimes forget that these are just young guys trying to do the best they know how with the seven minutes they have on the mat. I have been critical of Mike...think NCAAs last year and more recently on our board on a h.s. tournament thread. Sorry you missed it...but feel free to come over to HR and give your .02 cents.
It is certainly your right to hold Mike Evans in disdain. its your board and Mike Evans (or I) doesn't give a rip. Not everyone is going to be Logan Streibler or David Taylor in this sport...the happy warrior who will beat you up and give you a pat on the ass afterwards. It's wrestling so if hard nosed tactics offend you, which in your case it really seems to...you might be following the wrong sport. Might I suggest croquet?
Good to see you back and posting Chris.
