His level of success was 7-6. I'm here due to you posting on the Pitt site. Using your logic you are therefore threatened by Narduzzi.
As for Givens and Bowers, when they committed to Pitt you guys laughed and said they sucked. When they flipped they were great players who were under-rated. We realize that both of them never would have committed to Pitt if they had PSU offers. They both grew up PSU fans. The funny thing is how you changed your tune about them. Are you rally beating your chest about taking a few 3 star recruits away from a coach who had been on the job for 3 weeks? Really?
If they were so crappy, why was the Lair going apeshit when they switched?