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If Moorhead and Shoop stick together, they could be a real contender. More impressive is they've only given up nine TD's all year - seven fewer than Bama and by far the best in the NCAA.
MSU has a really good coaching staff on paper that is alot of experience and he has two former head coaches on his staff as well.
Wait, Shoop? The guy we laughed at because he was so bad at Tennessee? And now he has talent and suddenly he’s good again....funny how that works.
The current players have a lot of experience too. Fifteen of the players who started in the Bama game that they only lost by a TD in Starkville last season, started yesterday. Six starters on D will graduate, including the DT. The NT is only a junior. He is a load. Wonder if he'll announce and leave early?
Bama is currently hanging by a thread between looking like a top team ever and being a one dimensional running offense. Tua sat out a good portion of the second half. The 3rd string QB Jones is very unimpressive. Hurts had some midseason surgery and isn't ready to go yet.
The defense is still stifling, but Miss St hasn't played great offensively all year. A&M is probably the best offense they have faced and they won't be challenged again until UGA.
The defense is still stifling, but Miss St hasn't played great offensively all year. A&M is probably the best offense they have faced and they won't be challenged again until UGA.
I think you're overrating both coaches. Both inherited quite a bit of talent from the Mullen regime.
Well, MSU has a TD just before the half wiped out by a brutally incorrect call by the official right on top of the play.
Earlier in the first quarter on ‘Bama’s first drive MSU recovered but was not awarded a ‘Bama fumble. Could not believe replay did not even look at the play.
The announcers were really on the Officials as having a terrible game......TRUE TOO!
Earlier in the first quarter on ‘Bama’s first drive MSU recovered but was not awarded a ‘Bama fumble. Could not believe replay did not even look at the play.
The announcers were really on the Officials as having a terrible game......TRUE TOO!
Wait. Mississippi State's defense is better than Alabama's but yet Alabama's defense shut-out Mississippi State? And MS offense gained a total of 169 yards, but MS defense surrendered 305? Something not adding up here.
I think you have to look at games with common opponents. Bama shut-out LSU, (196 yards, 12 rushing) while MS allowed 19 points (239 yards, 110 rushing). That is small sample size, but difficult to claim MS defense is better than Bama's.
I think you have to look at games with common opponents. Bama shut-out LSU, (196 yards, 12 rushing) while MS allowed 19 points (239 yards, 110 rushing). That is small sample size, but difficult to claim MS defense is better than Bama's.
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Not that I necessarily agree with the statement, but Mississippi State was going up against Alabama’s powerful offense. Alabama was going up against Mississippi State’s impotent offense.
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Do you think that Moorhead & Co will recruit better than Mullen and his crew did? I would not bank on it.
Agree. IMO that offense doesn't do well against good defenses. Yesterday 6 1st downs and 1 for 15 on 3rd and 4th downs.
Forget rankings. Ever been to Starkville, MS? Not exactly the easiest place to get a kid to come to. What Mullen was good at was identifying kids that weren't all that highly rated by the chattering class, but who could play.
Mississippi St’s offense is prehistoric this year despite having a QB that was projected to be an NFL player before this season. Mullen didn’t leave the cupboard bare by a long shot, MSU has had a very disappointing season.
Their offense is horrible.
Their offense is horrible.
Given the same players, anything I've seen in Moorhead's system could be done just as well in an offense that supports the run game better. Why people here are enamored with it eludes me. Perhaps it has been just a reaction to the change from his predecessor, but the key players changed too.
Hopefully Franklin doesn't waste a year and cuts his losses quickly by installing a new system and a coach that knows how to run it. The players deserve better. They could be really, really good next year. Other than what they might be asked to do, I don't see a weakness in next year's offense.
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In Total Defense, they are #7 in the country, Bama is #8.
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In Total Defense, they are #7 in the country, Bama is #8.
1Michigan 10 575 2198 3.82 16 17 219.8
2Clemson 10 663 2536 3.83 13 15 253.6
3UAB 10 615 2608 4.24 17 17 260.8
4Miami (FL) 10 643 2686 4.18 19 21 268.6
5Appalachian St. 9 590 2499 4.24 15 16 277.7
6Cincinnati 10 642 2798 4.36 18 18 279.8
7Mississippi St. 10 655 2813 4.29 12 12 281.3
8Alabama 10 633 2828 4.47 15 16 282.8
They are still not as good and by the end of the year that will flip I imagine. Don't get me wrong they are really good, but Bama is still much better. Let's not forget Bama is sitting their starters well before MSU is in the vast majority of their games. When their 1's are in...nobody really scores. Stats don't take little things like that into account.
Mississippi State will be what they are now and always have been under JoeMo: A perennial 8-win team with the occasional 10-win season, and a few ridiculous athletes.
In other words, JoeMo will do just fine.
In other words, JoeMo will do just fine.
We saw this type of thing with Penn State in the early 2000s. Teams tend to play much more conservatively on offense when they know your offense is not a threat to score. Teams are doing every possible thing they can to generate offense against Alabama. Against Mississippi State they are trying to get a couple of scores and not do anything to give Mississippi State a short field.
