More Franklin to USC conjecture (link)
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This is so tiresome. If he goes, he goes. PSU will get a new coach and we’ll root hard for that coach
I can actually see this happening for many reasons
1. All modern, collegiate coaches have an institutional "shelf-life" (Exhibit A: Ed Orgeron at LSU et al)
2. Their coaching passion and messaging with internal / external audiences invariably diminishes with time
3. Franklin is in his 8th year at PSU and is now the 4th longest tenured coach at PSU.
I think James and Fumi are ready for a change of scenery and assignments. As is always the case, the wife is the decision maker.
1. All modern, collegiate coaches have an institutional "shelf-life" (Exhibit A: Ed Orgeron at LSU et al)
2. Their coaching passion and messaging with internal / external audiences invariably diminishes with time
3. Franklin is in his 8th year at PSU and is now the 4th longest tenured coach at PSU.
I think James and Fumi are ready for a change of scenery and assignments. As is always the case, the wife is the decision maker.
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He’s not going anywhere and doesn’t ever want to leave. Hey, my uninformed guess is just as accurate as your uninformed guess.
Insiders talking. Insiders thinking. Insiders guessing? Today I heard insiders think it's Franklin to LSU. This stuff is tiring.
Just curious, do the Franklin's have school age children. That could play a big part in the possibility of him leaving.
And I actually think the USC job makes more sense than the LSU job as he'll still have the 800 lb gorilla (Saban - Alabama) to deal with. The PAC is a lot more winnable, With that said, I just don't see him leaving PSU. Isn't he from PA ?
And I actually think the USC job makes more sense than the LSU job as he'll still have the 800 lb gorilla (Saban - Alabama) to deal with. The PAC is a lot more winnable, With that said, I just don't see him leaving PSU. Isn't he from PA ?
Why? LSU has won 3 titles recently. It’s a talent rich state with no other big in state schools to compete with. Plus you can go next door to Texas and the talent rich southeastern states
LSU has won a Natty two years ago and has the 9th best class coming in, plus he would get paid 8-9M and have good facilities.
I fear LSU more then USC.
I love this also he has a chance to get into the PO at PSU, but we still haven't gotten there with him.
Why would LSU winning a NC two years ago play any role at all? That has nothing to do with Franklin. And Franklin has a better class coming in at PSU. Bottom line, we can guess all we want but only Franklin and his wife know what they want to do.
Urban has lower standards. Have you seen Cayman Nebraska without makeup? She's at least a one-baggerHe’d be on the Song Girls like stink on shit.
So SEC West is no better than B!G East so that is a draw IMO. Baton Rouge or St College isn't close IMO. The fanbase and admin is much less tolerant. Ed O won a natty 2 years ago for crying out loud. LSU culture doesn't seem to match CJF.
USC. Lot's of glitter that SC can't compare to if that appeals to CJF.If CJF really wants to win a NC I am not sure he is better off in LA. USC's last 4 recruiting classes 18, 71, 8 this year 34. So his starting point is probably a couple years at a minimum behind PSU. He and his staff have no Western ties and other than Pry I am not sure who goes with him. I don't think CJF being in LA will dramatically change the current image of west coast football. I still think USC wants the panache of an NFL guy.
USC. Lot's of glitter that SC can't compare to if that appeals to CJF.If CJF really wants to win a NC I am not sure he is better off in LA. USC's last 4 recruiting classes 18, 71, 8 this year 34. So his starting point is probably a couple years at a minimum behind PSU. He and his staff have no Western ties and other than Pry I am not sure who goes with him. I don't think CJF being in LA will dramatically change the current image of west coast football. I still think USC wants the panache of an NFL guy.
I don’t think Franklin is going anywhere. However, a little peace of mind would be nice!
I wasn’t a big fan of his recent comments to the press, where he said something along the lines of, “I am handling it internally. No matter what I say, people will speculate.” That’s not true. If you say, “Penn State is my dream job and I don’t intend on leaving for any other job,” that would shut a lot of people up. And hey, Nick Saban told reporters he wasn’t leaving the Dolphins two weeks before he bolted for Bama, so I know not everyone is truthful. But it would just be nice to hear.
I wasn’t a big fan of his recent comments to the press, where he said something along the lines of, “I am handling it internally. No matter what I say, people will speculate.” That’s not true. If you say, “Penn State is my dream job and I don’t intend on leaving for any other job,” that would shut a lot of people up. And hey, Nick Saban told reporters he wasn’t leaving the Dolphins two weeks before he bolted for Bama, so I know not everyone is truthful. But it would just be nice to hear.
Urban has lower standards. Have you seen Cayman Nebraska without makeup? She's at least a one-bagger
Have you seen the USC song girls without makeup? Each one in the above photo is wearing about a half a pound.
Orgeron's problems at LSU go beyond his W-L record. Program is an absolute train wreck and his personal and professional behavior didn't help.
And Scott Linehan, too. After one year on the job, cost LSU $7mm to get rid of both of them.
Franklin has been very open about wanting to be the first black coach to win a national championship. So is he closer to that here or if he moves to USC? I think he's clearly closer at PSU.
Obviously, his family is the wild card. They trump everything.
I think Fickell is a good coach but he is a Ohio guy and really has a good thing going at Cincy. Think it will be tough to pull him away from there although a high level Big Ten job would be a step up.
half of "us" don't root for CJF, so what makes you think "we" will root for a new coach?
I read an interview the other day with Luke & Wife. She’s an Ohioan and doesn’t desire to leave. Very interesting.
He's a Midwest guy and just don't see him leaving for USC. Think he stays at Cincinnati until the OSU or ND job opens up. And that's not as crazy as it sounds as Ryan Day has no previous ties to OSU and Brian Kelley has been at ND for 11 or 12 years now. PSU ? Franklin isn't leaving.
No but is a lot easier to get double digit wins and he was already on the big stage at tOSU
He struggled as the interim at tOSU. Doing extremely well at Cincy less pressure. Not saying he won’t leave but I think it will be harder to pry him away from there than some people think. Would be absolutely shocked if he went to USC.
And with those crazies in Columbus, that could happen if he loses another game this year
Again, I just don't understand what USC has that is better then LSU? LSU paid their coach more, has better facilities, and better class coming in.
USC is a total dumpster fire program that won't be relevant again for 5-10 years.
He can’t get through the B1G and Ohio State. PSU missed its chance in 2017 and 2018 to swing the scales and blew it. McSorley could have been 3-0 vs. the Bucks. Those two O$U losses then cost them games vs. MSU.
Then they could of done it in 2019 but the Minnesota loss lingered and Clifford went down. And he can’t win the big one at big house. Last year was his only win in Ann Arbor.
He can’t get through the B1G with just 1 loss.
At LSU he wouldn’t be able to get through Bama and Georgia. At USC he would win pretty quickly.
If he is leaving then it’s USC.
Then they could of done it in 2019 but the Minnesota loss lingered and Clifford went down. And he can’t win the big one at big house. Last year was his only win in Ann Arbor.
He can’t get through the B1G with just 1 loss.
At LSU he wouldn’t be able to get through Bama and Georgia. At USC he would win pretty quickly.
If he is leaving then it’s USC.
Not a fan of LSU whatsoever but in the current era it is one of the best jobs in the country. Facilities, stadium, rabid fan base, fertile recruiting grounds, no other power 5 in state schools and a a do anything win at all costs mentality.
If LSU offers Franklin 9 million, he’s gone. And based on their resources I don’t think that’s too far off the table at this point.
It’s going to be a wait and see who LSU has at #1 on the wishlist.
There have been rumors over the past couple years about Franklin being frustrated with the lack of money/resources for the program. It’s something he’s pushed for his entire time here. I don’t know if it’s an AD issue, or a donor issue, but Franklin will walk if he thinks another school is offering better competitive resources to chase a national title. The LSU job might be the one.
It’s going to be a wait and see who LSU has at #1 on the wishlist.
There have been rumors over the past couple years about Franklin being frustrated with the lack of money/resources for the program. It’s something he’s pushed for his entire time here. I don’t know if it’s an AD issue, or a donor issue, but Franklin will walk if he thinks another school is offering better competitive resources to chase a national title. The LSU job might be the one.
I don’t think they can hand it over to a guy who has zero experience running a major college football program. The wrong hire would set the program back years. They would need someone who is proven that would hit the ground running to save the recruiting class. And someone is going to say “Ryan Day says hi”, BS, well good for them but I wouldn’t do it with Yurcich. Ohio State is a different animal
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If he leaves, it’ll probably be that he feels he’s peaked at psu and no matter what he does, it’s a 9-3 , 10-2 program. He might feel that’s the best he can do without total support and funding from PSU and also the NIL arms race. He could easily sell major NIL opportunities from the USC coaching seat, and maybe he just wants a new challenge
A
Rhule (long shot at this point ship has sailed)
Fickel
Campbell
B
Joe Brady
Dave Aranda
Dave Clawson
Jamey Chadwell
Lance Leipold
Billy Napier
Jeff Hafley
Charles Huff
Scott Satterfield
coordinators
Yurcich
Pry
Marcus Freeman
Alex Grinch
Josh Gattis
former head coaches
Moorhead
Doug Marrone
Al Golden
Mike Munchak
crazy longshot
BOB
Doug Pederson
Snowballs chance in hades
Eric Bienemy
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I liked your list. Very comprehensive and thought provoking.
Predictions:
- Eric Bienemy to USC
- Mel Tucker to LSU
- James Franklin stays at Penn State
- Eric Bienemy to USC
- Mel Tucker to LSU
- James Franklin stays at Penn State
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