More from Bruce Heim

[wjb78]

While I applaud Mr. Heim for setting the record straight, he is a few years late. Perhaps his explanation will be very helpful in extinguishing what is still smoldering away like a Centralia mine fire.

Unfortunately, had Mr. Heim stood up back in November 2011 it would have been very helpful in turning the narrative once Linda Kelly, John Surma and friends sparked that shitstorm.

Personally, I would prefer to hear from Dr. Jack Raykovitz - mandated reporter and licensed professional at the charity - as to why he did not implement a written safety plan in 1998, let alone 2001. I would also like to know why Dr. Raykovitz did not insist on proper protocol and paperwork was in place when accessing, engaging, and interacting with Second Mile clients.

All.The.Time.Every.Time.

Will Mr. Heim stand up to Louis Freeh and demand that he return to campus to defend that piece of garbage, support Dr. Spanier and the Alumni Trustees in their efforts, excoriate the corrupt conduct of the Office of Attorney General in this, demand that the bogus charges on Messrs. Curley, Schultz & Spanier be dropped, demand open hearings into Second Mile, CYS and the failures of our child welfare system in this and insist that the University HONOR JOE now - and do without an asterisk?

In my dreams, I see former Trustee Frazier placing a full page ad in the NYT apologizing to the Paterno Family, the Lettermen, the 4 University Principals he torched, the larger PSU community - but you know what, this OpEd from Mr. Heim published in major outlets, like NYT, WSJ, WaPo, etc would be just as beneficial.

I disagree on one point Wendy, Heim has not set the record straight at all, he continues to deflect on one important point: regardless of how many at TSM or the community at large failed to recognize JS's conduct for what it was, Raykovitz was REQUIRED to take specific actions upon hearing Curley's complaint in 2001. From what Mr. Heim tells us, he and Raykovitz agreed not to comply with that requirement because 'no offense had been reported'. As Raykovitz damn well knew, what he admitted Curley told him required him to cause a report to DPW/CYS. It didn't happen. Would it have changed anything if that report had been sent? Who knows, but everything in Heim's statement effectively distracts us from that one point, which suggests he's well aware it's not merely a matter of splitting hairs.

 

[rmb297]

Heim is providing a great opportunity for the spotlight to be put on The Second Mile...and I thank him for that.

As for as his op-ed is concerned, it proves a few things:
1. Heim had no business being a decision maker at a children's charity.
2. Heim has no idea what was actually required of the charity under the law.
3. Heim is lying about what the charity knew.

I've covered the first two points in my blogs ad nauseum.

I've covered point 3 to some extent, but the bottom line is that when this all broke, Katherine Genovese told the truth about Jerry. That they had to tell him to back off certain kids.

Clinton County CYS official, Gerald Rosamilia testified that when he called TSM to inform them that someone from the charity was under investigation, Genovese correctly guessed it was Sandusky.

Heim's contention that the charity only heard good things about Jerry is complete BS.

It is quite possible that someone may take the "Cosby" route -- and violate a NDA -- if Heim keeps this crap up.

 

[rmb297]

Gotta believe that he's likely checking this site and will soon turn off the faucet. JMHO.

He forgot to "clean up" his twitter page and another "picture-gate" may be on the horizon. hehehe

 

[wensilver]

Homecoming is this weekend, yes?

Wouldn't it just be something if Mr. Heim could address his fellow community of Penn Staters, Parents & Friends - not at a coin toss on the 50 yard line - (because frankly, that important "coin toss" happened in 2001 when they called <tuck> "tails" instead of "heads" <up> - and instead he spoke loudly and clearly in calling for the University to Honor Joe, and apologized to Dr. Spanier, Tim Curley, Gary Schultz and the Lettermen, as well as to the larger PSU community.

 

[NapaNit]

Homecoming is this weekend, yes?

Wouldn't it just be something if Mr. Heim could address his fellow community of Penn Staters, Parents & Friends - not at a coin toss on the 50 yard line - (because frankly, that important "coin toss" happened in 2001 when they called <tuck> "tails" instead of "heads" <up> - and instead he spoke loudly and clearly in calling for the University to Honor Joe, and apologized to Dr. Spanier, Tim Curley, Gary Schultz and the Lettermen, as well as to the larger PSU community.

Heim does not have that level of courage or integrity. While he certainly could re-invent himself with such a move, he also lacks the requisite vision to see the beauty of such a move.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

The idea that the people in charge of The Second Mile are blameless is complete BS. These kids were in their care. IT WAS THEIR JOB TO ENSURE THE KIDS' SAFETY.

Heim and Raykovtiz allowed Sandusky to engage in behavior (one-on-one contact) that is prohibited by every responsible child-serving organization. Even if they didn't know Sandusky was a pedophile, they screwed up.

He has a hell of a lot of nerve.

You nailed it.....

 

[Misder2]

Heim is providing a great opportunity for the spotlight to be put on The Second Mile...and I thank him for that.

As for as his op-ed is concerned, it proves a few things:
1. Heim had no business being a decision maker at a children's charity.
2. Heim has no idea what was actually required of the charity under the law.
3. Heim is lying about what the charity knew.

I've covered the first two points in my blogs ad nauseum.

I've covered point 3 to some extent, but the bottom line is that when this all broke, Katherine Genovese told the truth about Jerry. That they had to tell him to back off certain kids.

Clinton County CYS official, Gerald Rosamilia testified that when he called TSM to inform them that someone from the charity was under investigation, Genovese correctly guessed it was Sandusky.

Heim's contention that the charity only heard good things about Jerry is complete BS.

It is quite possible that someone may take the "Cosby" route -- and violate a NDA -- if Heim keeps this crap up.

It was only a matter of time till someone started talking too much, as has been the practice throughout this ordeal.

 

[PSUSignore]

Heim represented two groups...1) "Vietnam era West Pointers", and 2) "Sandusky era Second Milers". The fact that he conflates that PSU's rescinding of the offer based on his inclusion in the second group as a dishonor the first group is an arrogant spin, especially given that he announced that he wouldn't withdraw from the ceremonies as it would implicate that the Second Mile had done something improper. At that point, he squarely made his appearance 100% as a "Sandusky era Second Miler" and 0% as a "Vietnam era West Pointer'. Simply put, Heim choose to make an ultimatum and he paid for his miscalculation. In military terms, he choose to make this a hill to die on.

Good post. You should post more often.

 

[rmb297]

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That account doesn't seem legit

The king of Parody accounts weighs in. Tell us more "magic-man"

 

[Frank Sheeran]

My allegiance is to only one man Rosario Alberto Bufalino.

I have no respect for your top tier tsm people in happy valley.
They are liars.

I learned the value of keeping my mouth shut from my ww2 combat days in sicily and italy.
Guys that could not stay quiet were picked off by the krauts.
Listening to the wounded crying out at monte cassino made me vow to always keep my emotions under control

I have never trusted people that talk too much.
It is a sign of weakness and fear.
Just as I sense that the tsm army honcho now realizes that he called some very unwanted attention to the tsm club.

TSM is already under scrutiny.

They wrote a book about my boss. The "Quiet Don". Capisce?
Russ was a genius.
Father Sica could obtain 7,000 signatures within hours to support the best boss ever in pa coal country and the east coast.

I also miss mike genovese from pittsburgh. He was our friend and ally. He always kept his mouth shut and was very trustworthy.

It would not surprise me to see your happy valley unravel soon.
Some might say that people have been hoodwinked for a long time.

I say that the cash for kids fbi guy has been quietly assembling a dossier.

Ciao

 

[bkmtnittany1]

frank...I hope so!

 

[Marshall30]

Frank's pranks make the girls say thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[NapaNit]

My allegiance is to only one man Rosario Alberto Bufalino.

I have no respect for your top tier tsm people in happy valley.
They are liars.

I learned the value of keeping my mouth shut from my ww2 combat days in sicily and italy.
Guys that could not stay quiet were picked off by the krauts.
Listening to the wounded crying out at monte cassino made me vow to always keep my emotions under control

I have never trusted people that talk too much.
It is a sign of weakness and fear.
Just as I sense that the tsm army honcho now realizes that he called some very unwanted attention to the tsm club.

TSM is already under scrutiny.

They wrote a book about my boss. The "Quiet Don". Capisce?
Russ was a genius.
Father Sica could obtain 7,000 signatures within hours to support the best boss ever in pa coal country and the east coast.

I also miss mike genovese from pittsburgh. He was our friend and ally. He always kept his mouth shut and was very trustworthy.

It would not surprise me to see your happy valley unravel soon.
Some might say that people have been hoodwinked for a long time.

I say that the cash for kids fbi guy has been quietly assembling a dossier.

Ciao

It's the tsm club that I want picked off. I believe they are very bad people. As for HV, I don't care what happens as long as the truth is revealed.

 

[psudukie]

All for the truth ... Have zero issue with that.

 

[indynittany]

.... and now he admitted that he led part of the cover up. Whoops.

Actually, he said there was nothing that he was aware of to cover up. Kind of a big difference!

 

[richmin3]

RE: TSM not knowing about 1998, either Heim is lying OR CYS/DPW didn't follow state law/policy which REQUIRED them to inform TSM. Either way someone messed up big time and needs to be held accountable.

Also, I agree that it isn't rare for kids to be showering with adults in public facilities however that is NOT the same thing as what was reported to TSM in 2001....JS showering with a kid alone, late at night in a restricted access building such as lasch. It's extremely inappropriate and Raykovitz should have followed the LAW and fully reported it to CC CYS so they could determine if JS's access to kids should be revoked.

Since when does a real estate guy get to advise a Phd in Psychology (Raykovitz) and mandated reporter on whether or not an employee inappropriately showering late at night with a TSM kid should be shared with the full TSM board and CC CYS?? Heim can have all the opinions he wants but it's not his call. Mandated reporters have to report the incident every time no matter what personal opinions they may or may not have...hence the term Mandatroy reporter....smh

Didn't Heim/JR/TSM think it was a red flag that PSU was on their doorstep complaining about JS's late night showering behavior/horsing around and revoked JS's guest privileges?? Come on man....

I too would like to hear his answers about the shredder truck....but I doubt any media folks EVER ask him about it or even know about it for that matter.

Why oh Why Mr Heim should Penn State settlements to supposed victims include a clause shielding the Second mile and their officers from any potential lawsuits???? What's the connection between the Second mile and Penn State that gives you all a free pass??? I've never ever heard of that before. How sweet!! Especially since according to you, any actions or non actions by second mile were legit. Is it because your all just real nice people and Penn State just wants to be helpful and cover your ass's to the detriment of PSU??? In my opinion this is the Real head scratcher .It absolutely makes no sense whatsoever unless you have something to hide. If you can TRUTHFULLY answer that question, then I'd be willing to keep an open mind on your role in this debacle. If you can't Bruce, then you might as well go pump the neighbors dog because no one's gonna believe a thing you say. Lastly, as a proud military veteran your actions or should I say non actions truly reflect the type of person you are and hiding behind the flag to suit your Pr purposes embarrasses the rest of us.

 

[psu00]

So for you folks in the area I have 1 BIG question with 4-5 others.
The Big question. - How can you keep this guy talking? By doing so he will shine a light on the 2M that no one else has. He could be the gift that keeps giving.
Specifically, as stated in this thread followup questions I would love the media toask him
. 98 was never reported to 2M - Mr. Heim are you saying that CYS and or DPW didn't do their duty by notifying the 2M as they were required?
. No one at 2M had any idea until 2011 - Mr Heim why was JS relieved of his duties in 2009 if no one at 2M had any idea until 2011?
. Mr Heim,do you have any idea why and who ordered all 2M documents to be shredded soon after JS arrest?
. Mr Heim, can you tell us which organizations investigated the 2M so we can review their findings?
. Finally, when Penn State revoked the shower privledges to JS why did you feel it was important to make the facilities at the Hilton Garden available to JS and the 2M children?

Seems to me the more he talks the more questions might arise someone in the media might finally ask.

All your questions are right on target. It's nothing short of a complete joke that PA media (penn live/ Patriot News, Centre Daily Times etc) have not brought these up and confronted Mr. Heim over them. Hell, the local rags put their fingers in their ears and kept yelling "I can't hear you. I can't hear you" over this Heim / second mile coin toss fight. Even the Pittsburgh paper and ESPN had stories about it while the local folks willfully ignored it because it went against their predetermined opinion of "good guy" and "bad guy". It's nothing short of scandal that they haven't raised these issues. I'm hoping some lawyers in upcoming trials are ready to ask them under oath.

 

[Victor E. Bell]

It's nothing short of a complete joke that PA media

Not so much a joke as a well-defined business relationship is my guess.

 

[psu00]

Not so much a joke as a well-defined business relationship is my guess.

Certainly seems that way. There's just no way media (always driven to find scandal or outrage) just walk away from even asking these basic questions.

 

[dwiz]

All your questions are right on target. It's nothing short of a complete joke that PA media (penn live/ Patriot News, Centre Daily Times etc) have not brought these up and confronted Mr. Heim over them. Hell, the local rags put their fingers in their ears and kept yelling "I can't hear you. I can't hear you" over this Heim / second mile coin toss fight. Even the Pittsburgh paper and ESPN had stories about it while the local folks willfully ignored it because it went against their predetermined opinion of "good guy" and "bad guy". It's nothing short of scandal that they haven't raised these issues. I'm hoping some lawyers in upcoming trials are ready to ask them under oath.

Definitely. Penn State basically subsidizes the CDT with their huge order every day, so CDT will never say anything bad about PSU. Hell, their "Our View" column has supported every step PSU has made. If we had a real newspaper that did research like the one down in North Carolina, I think a lot more would have been uncovered. Unfortunately, we have dbags like Chris Rosenblum reporting on where to see nice orange leaves and police reports on how many DUIs were caught on the days they actually check for DUIS (not football weekends).

 

[dwiz]

And of course State College.com deleted all the comments on Heim's article and then shut down the comment section. Wouldn't want people's opinions on an OPINION piece!

 

[NICNEM_PSU80]

So if Jerry had brought the kids into a Walmart bathroom to abuse them, did Walmart have a "duty" to be able to recognize a pedophile?

These kids weren't in Penn State's care. They were in the care of The Second Mile.

This is a very good point. While there is some level of care that PSU must exercise what the original quote suggests is just impossible to attain. How many people visit our campuses on a daily basis. Is the university responsible for each and everyone of them? How many in a year? or at any one moment. How would you attempt to ensure that? You would have to have tens of thousands of cops, a million cameras, thosands of people watching the cameras and you could still not have enough coverage.

This type of thing is reactive in nature. If you suspect a threat then you look into it and then take some steps to reduce the possibility of occurrence. If you have proof, not just some circumstantial evidence then you have the person arrested. If you have some incidental data then you act accordingly by taking steps to minimize the possibility of it happening again.

The only person who had anything close to proof was MM. Even MM did not have actual proof. The supposed victim #2 said nothing happened in the shower in 2001. Awkward, uncomfortable, disgusting. worrisome, noteworthy, should there be actions taken absolutely. But that's what PSU did. Did JS shower with any other kids on campus after that-no. Did PSU Tell his employer who were mandatory reporters- yes. Did they contact the police- yes Schultz + Harmon. Did they contact CYS- by telling Jack Raykovitz the head of TSM who was a contract employee of CYS- yes.

If anything the fault here lies with MM, individually.

 

[LundyPSU]

This is a very good point. While there is some level of care that PSU must exercise what the original quote suggests is just impossible to attain. How many people visit our campuses on a daily basis. Is the university responsible for each and everyone of them? How many in a year? or at any one moment. How would you attempt to ensure that? You would have to have tens of thousands of cops, a million cameras, thosands of people watching the cameras and you could still not have enough coverage.

This type of thing is reactive in nature. If you suspect a threat then you look into it and then take some steps to reduce the possibility of occurrence. If you have proof, not just some circumstantial evidence then you have the person arrested. If you have some incidental data then you act accordingly by taking steps to minimize the possibility of it happening again.

The only person who had anything close to proof was MM. Even MM did not have actual proof. The supposed victim #2 said nothing happened in the shower in 2001. Awkward, uncomfortable, disgusting. worrisome, noteworthy, should there be actions taken absolutely. But that's what PSU did. Did JS shower with any other kids on campus after that-no. Did PSU Tell his employer who were mandatory reporters- yes. Did they contact the police- yes Schultz + Harmon. Did they contact CYS- by telling Jack Raykovitz the head of TSM who was a contract employee of CYS- yes.

If anything the fault here lies with MM, individually.

You are putting this all on Mike??

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

Not so much a joke as a well-defined business relationship is my guess.

Exactly. Heim and his pals are involved in multiple enterprises, and that represents big, big advertising revenue.

 

[Zenophile]

And of course State College.com deleted all the comments on Heim's article and then shut down the comment section. Wouldn't want people's opinions on an OPINION piece!

Comment section was working again as of a moment ago.

 

[dwiz]

Comment section was working again as of a moment ago.

Ah true that. Blocked by work device. I give them credit for that then.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

You fail to realize that all those guys on the 2M were trying to get Tommy boy elected as well as laundering money thru the charity....this was a HUGE cash cow...they were gonna do whatever they had to do to make sure the $$$$ kept flowing in....let's face facts....tons of millionaires got there fortunes by being liars and cheats

 

[PSUSignore]

I would not place a large part of the responsibility on him. Mike has been dogged by a series of bad decisions as a 20-something (not uncommon). I think these bad decisions made him vulnerable to be manipulated by those that engineered the false narrative...and IMO, that is where Mike's responsibility is; NOT in the reporting.

IMO, I believe that TSM (Bruce, Jack, et al) as well as DPW, CYS should have shouldered the responsibility for the scandal but because of money, politics and convenience. The true culprits decided that it would be in their PERSONAL (financial & political) interests to have PSU take the blame.

I mentioned this before, I am not an insider or lawyer but I have a strong suspicion that Mike is going to have a lot more very interesting things to reveal in court regarding his continued relationship with TSM after 2001. Read the Van Natta story again.

If MM saw in 2001 what he claims to have seen in 2011, he has no excuse for not at least calling 911 in that very moment. No question. If he didn't really see in 2001 what he claims to have seen in 2011, then he has manipulated his story for some reason. We can speculate as to why, but we don't know for sure. Either way, MM had a pretty big role in this mess and is probably the most important link in the reporting chain. It would appear that what PSU knew is nearly entirely dependent on what MM told them. Their subsequent actions, or lack thereof, are a reflection of what they knew. It all starts with MM.

 

[lionroar88]

If what he has printed is true then there is a whole big mess that is going to get opened up... this invalidates:

1. The charges against Curley, Schultz, and Spanier for not reporting - it was reported to Sandusky's employer The Second Mile.
2. This further confirms what Curley, Schultz, Spanier, Dronov, and McQuery's father told them he did NOT witness anything sexual.
3. The entirety of The Freeh Report

My God how could this guy keep quiet for 4 years?!?!?!?!?!

 

[bjf1984]

What you say has a lot of linear, logical foundation....and I certainly would not try to convince you (or anybody) otherwise..

If one accepts the premise that these are the only two options:

"If MM saw in 2001 what he claims to have seen in 2011, he has no excuse for not at least calling 911 in that very moment. No question. If he didn't really see in 2001 what he claims to have seen in 2011, then he has manipulated his story for some reason."

The situation becomes pretty clear.

I would only say that there may be additional "hybrid" options that we often don't consider. I know that may come off as being overly "equivocating"....and I am not normally one to be considered an "equivocator"
But, without getting into a long (probably fruitless) debate, that may be something that is worthy of some thought.


In any event, unless/until we see some full, open trials.......we are ALL being severely handicapped in our efforts to discover truth, and our hopes to see righteous justice carried out.
And that.....is just sad.

 

[Madsol]

If MM saw in 2001 what he claims to have seen in 2011, he has no excuse for not at least calling 911 in that very moment. No question. If he didn't really see in 2001 what he claims to have seen in 2011, then he has manipulated his story for some reason. We can speculate as to why, but we don't know for sure. Either way, MM had a pretty big role in this mess and is probably the most important link in the reporting chain. It would appear that PSU knew is nearly entirely dependent on what MM told them. Their subsequent actions, or lack thereof, are a reflection of what they knew. It all starts with MM.

Yep. Sorry, but it's always been pretty simple to me. If McQueary saw in 2001 what he claims in 2010/11/12 to have seen and did what he did back in 2001 and moving forward, then he's a coward. If he didn't see in 2001 what he claims in 2010/11/12 to have seen, then he's a liar. I really don't know how there can be any other option. And given the reaction of everyone else in 2001 that he told or that knew about it, including his own father and his father's friend, I think it's pretty clear that what he saw in 2001 was nothing close to what he said he saw in 2010/11/12. Now why his story changed...that's the million dollar question.

 

[WeR0206]

Yep. Sorry, but it's always been pretty simple to me. If McQueary saw in 2001 what he claims in 2010/11/12 to have seen and did what he did back in 2001 and moving forward, then he's a coward. If he didn't see in 2001 what he claims in 2010/11/12 to have seen, then he's a liar. I really don't know how there can be any other option. And given the reaction of everyone else in 2001 that he told or that knew about it, including his own father and his father's friend, I think it's pretty clear that what he saw in 2001 was nothing close to what he said he saw in 2010/11/12. Now why his story changed...that's the million dollar question.

Exactly...even MM's own testimony from the 12/16/11 prelim doesn't line up with his 2010 version of the incident. In his testimony MM said that he wasn't 100% sure what JS and the kid were doing because he couldn't really see anyone's privates, JS's hands, etc.

He also testified that when TC called him a few weeks later to follow up and communicate PSU's action plan (revoke JS guest privileges and inform TSM), MM expressed no dissatisfaction and never said MORE needed to be done. Ok, well if you were CERTAIN that JS was sodomizing a kid and after talking to the PSU admins you saw that he was still not arrested and UPPD never came to even get a written statement from you, how in the EFF were you NOT be dissatisfied and express that more needed to be done??? In addition to that no one's (JM/Dr. D/MM/Joe/C/S/S/etc.) actions in 2001 make any sense if the 2010 version is true. So when you add those together it tells me MM played revisionist history in 2010..

 

[Marshall30]

Bruce Heim, and others from TSM were jammed up in this from the beginning as I reported. No is the time for the BoT to come clean.

 

[Zenophile]

I submit the following for consideration:

- McQueary bears witness to something in 2001 that makes him uncomfortable.
- He reports this to Paterno, who notifies Curley and Schultz.
- McQueary then reports it to Curley and Schultz who investigate.
- Curley or/& Schultz report back to McQueary that their investigation did not find anything inappropriate.
- McQueary's perception of the event is adjusted to fit within the context of this information.
- In 2010 (or thereabouts) McQueary is notified of an investigation into Sandusky potentially molesting children.
- McQueary's perception of the 2001 event is readjusted to fit within the context of this new information.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

Do ya think real journalists...if there are any left...or people from FoxSports or ESPN read this site? It would truly be sad if they do peruse this site....and do nothing about it. How could you call yourself an "Investigative journalist" if you read this site and do nothing...man..i know I couldn't live with myself...

 

[lionroar88]

I doubt any 'investigative journalists' read this site.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

ned...that's awful if its true

 

[TheBigUglies]

Putting my tinfoil hat back on. Did some wealthy individual put Mike up to these and cover his gambling debts because they wanted to force JoePa out to gain more control of the University because Joe did things the right way and all these scoundrels just wanted more money for themselves and more control on the case cow that was athletics but couldn't do it because Joe still had influence over the athletic department because Curly seemed to be running it pretty well.

 

[bjf1984]

Putting my tinfoil hat back on. Did some wealthy individual put Mike up to these and cover his gambling debts because they wanted to force JoePa out to gain more control of the University because Joe did things the right way and all these scoundrels just wanted more money for themselves and more control on the case cow that was athletics but couldn't do it because Joe still had influence over the athletic department because Curly seemed to be running it pretty well.

I tend to "not dismiss out of hand" anything in this entire shitstorm.......but, I think, in this case you may feel free to take off that Alcoa Beret

LOL.....I know you were just spitballing

 

[PSUSignore]

Yep. Sorry, but it's always been pretty simple to me. If McQueary saw in 2001 what he claims in 2010/11/12 to have seen and did what he did back in 2001 and moving forward, then he's a coward. If he didn't see in 2001 what he claims in 2010/11/12 to have seen, then he's a liar. I really don't know how there can be any other option. And given the reaction of everyone else in 2001 that he told or that knew about it, including his own father and his father's friend, I think it's pretty clear that what he saw in 2001 was nothing close to what he said he saw in 2010/11/12. Now why his story changed...that's the million dollar question.

Given that the actions of many align with the latter story, this is pretty much where I'm at as well. At least until we know more about conversation particulars between MM and Curley/Schultz which will hopefully (someday) come out at trial. I don't fault MM for not knocking Sandusky's lights out, like some on this board, and I'm not sure if that's why you would consider him a coward. I believe that most wouldn't know how they'd react to a similar situation unless actually experiencing for themselves. I could say I'd do this or I'd do that but I would be being dishonest with myself, I probably don't know what I'd do. But at a bare minimum I feel comfortable saying I'd call 911, and I think most would. But as to exact behaviors given the little nuances like MM's and JS's relationship with PSU football, MM's desire to get a job, MM's relationship with JS, what was actually seen, the fact that JS was always surrounded by Second Mile kids, etc., I can honestly say I don't know how I'd react.

I submit the following for consideration:

- McQueary bears witness to something in 2001 that makes him uncomfortable.
- He reports this to Paterno, who notifies Curley and Schultz.
- McQueary then reports it to Curley and Schultz who investigate.
- Curley or/& Schultz report back to McQueary that their investigation did not find anything inappropriate.
- McQueary's perception of the event is adjusted to fit within the context of this information.
- In 2010 (or thereabouts) McQueary is notified of an investigation into Sandusky potentially molesting children.
- McQueary's perception of the 2001 event is readjusted to fit within the context of this new information.

This too sounds feasible. This would beg the question as to what was reported back to MM in 2001 and in 2010 since either has the potential for dishonesty, intentional or not. Given that these sort of investigations are treated with utmost confidentiality given the ramifications to one's reputation if leaked, I'm skeptical anyone would feel obligated to report back to MM though, but it's feasible.

The motive to report additional accusations to MM in 2010 could be to get a star witness on their side for conviction, if they knew MM potentially witnessed a similar incident years earlier.

I'm unsure what motive Curley and Schultz would have for any sort of dishonesty in 2001 to cover up a known sexual abuse incident and to tell MM nothing really happened however. Now of course it could have been that their investigation was flawed and they honestly didn't find anything. This could be either due to their lack of skill in such matters or due to sheer skill of JS to hide in plain sight despite their best efforts.