More hush money will be paid...
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However many millions it takes to keep the truth hidden.
I understand the sentiment. That said, I'm pretty sure that unlike the settlements with alleged victims, PSU's insurance company is fully engaged, and actually the biggest force behind efforts to reach a settlement on this case.
I don't know how this will play out.
Unless the remaining charges against CSS are dropped, McQueary is going to get on the witness stand and be subjected to a cross-examination sooner or later.
Even a non-disclosure agreement in a civil suit would not allow him or the university to avoid that.
So settling this case isn't a particularly effective way of hushing him up.
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PSU will argue against things in this trial that they've fully supported in just about all other legal challenge in this scandal.
If they take the lawsuit this far, (paying the PSU legal team for years over this), and then suddenly settle and pay out at the last minute- then someone seriously needs to be held to account over fiscal responsibility.
If you're going to pay out now then why not just pay MM off at the beginning? That way you stop running up unnecessary bills and attracting unwanted attention and bad headlines.
I don't think its possible to waste any more money and get any more bad publicity than the Penn State BoT and its crack legal team (?Dunham?) have accomplished over the years.
And no one at the Patriot News/ Pennlive, Philly or Pittsburgh papers (or other media) will notice, much less question them on it.
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It's pretty common to settle right before or after the jury is seated. It's a game of chicken.
An expensive game of chicken with repeated bouts of bad publicity to go with it. This must now be what the Penn St BoT calls a 'win-win'.
I'm sure that is correct Tom, but I am also sure that there is no objection from Penn State in regards to settling. They do not want this to go to trial. So we wait for another day before anything gets out.
"I don't think its possible to waste any more money....."
TRUE
"....and get any more bad publicity than the Penn State BoT and its crack legal team (?Dunham?) have accomplished over the years"
IDK Has any of the "bad publicity" really rubbed off on them? I don't think so.
Hell, no one with any standing even brings it up......but maybe they should?
That tired, old bit about acting as a proper "fiduciary"? Nah....forget about that
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And no one at the Patriot News/ Pennlive, Philly or Pittsburgh papers or other media will notice, much less question them on it.
Correct... Got to keep the narrative of Joe knew rather than admit we were wrong. Settlement talks... Mike how does $4.5 million sound and we also pay your lawyer fee's. We good here? Cool sign this and here is your check.
I could swear within the last month I saw a report that indicated PSU had chosen not to settle this case. I can't find it at the moment but I remembering questioning the rationale NOT to settle unless there is a strategy in place to combine the dirt that comes out of this case with the likely DOE fine to once and for all bury any hope of pushing back against the false narrative. PSU's legal strategy might simply be to let MM have his way and then just fork over a large settlement versus settling and missing another opportunity to step on C/S/S and Joe. I've come to really despise PSU and its governance! They will never again get $.01 of my money.
Well, even if you are planning on settling a civil suit, you sure as hell don't admit it. You have to act like you don't want to settle in order to drive your opposition's asking price down.
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Some day the truth will come out, and Mike will wish that he was the one who brought it. I hope he realizes that, but I am not hopeful.
Many have judged MM for what he did and didn't do. I'm not one. If he gets a great settlement, good for him and his attorneys. If not, that would be a bit upsetting as I think forward to his life.
In the end, I'm just glad I'm not MM. I can't even begin to think what life is like "in his shoes".
He could relocate, but like "Cheers", everyone knows his name.
In the end, I'm just glad I'm not MM. I can't even begin to think what life is like "in his shoes".
He could relocate, but like "Cheers", everyone knows his name.
At the end of the day, the only thing that will set MM free is the truth. Not money, and not privacy. Until the truth comes out and is verified, he will never know peace, no matter how big this settlement is.
Most civil cases are settled just as the trial is about to begin. At that point they know the other party isn't going to back down and this becomes the only viable alternative.
The majority of the world is made up of wonderful places where the people don't give a rat's ass about Paterno or Penn State. With the right settlement he can disappear and lead a happy peaceful life.
Bleep him. He left a boy with that monster. He should rot in bleeping hell. No matter what happened with anyone afterward, he failed at the crucial moment. He ran home to his Daddy. No hand waving or revisionist history will ever change that.
I don't know, there always seems to be a zippy stalker out there. Don't forget the lesson of the bot; even though he walks around freely he's not safe where security is involved.
Beautifully stated and my feelings exactly.
I think we all know how MM's recollections of the night in question became so much more, shall we say, vivid - 10 years after the fact.
Hint? LEVERAGE.
But to be fair, if he really DID see what he now says he saw, then note EPC's description above. So which is it? Liar, or coward? Take your pick.
If MMQ's attorney is smart like Patty Crawford and her attorney, the former Baylor Title IX coordinator that taped a meeting with the football staff about Baylor administrators (one of them being Reagan Ramsower their new head of Pepper Hamilton's recommended "task force")* railroading a football player with no due process, MMQ won't sign any deal that says he has to keep quiet or even publish a book or have media rights.
* There are some interesting parallels to Baylor and PSU BTW. The hardest part for me while studying it are reading certain buzzwords that everyone around here hates too!
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Just remember where Steve Dunham came from (Hint: Johns Hopkins) and who was on the Hopkins BOT (Hint: Karen Peetz - the gift that keeps on giving).
Of all the lawyers from sea to shining sea, we just happen to hire the one whose best qualification is being Peetz' piss boy.
Coincidence? I think not.
Addressing the above 3 items...
(1) NOT paying MM keeps the pounding the public with the illusion created 5+ years ago by the "Story" of "inherent criminality" in the PSU Football program. It also adds money to the legal fees which are part of the engineered "pay off" to participating legal "resources".
(2) Wasting money is part of the overall crime here....The "Bank of Penn State University" is paying SELECTED parties for legal fees for all these years as "compensation" for their help in creating and maintaining the "Story". There are only a very few highly placed "BOT puppets" doing the vetting process so payments will be made without question OR LIMIT!!! This is part of the engineered "money stream". PSU has paid out over $200M in fines, extra administrators, NCAA penalties, new "oversight" personnel and legal fees. If you robbed a bank of $200M, it would be the biggest theft in history - yet, not a whimper from any source (other than PSU alums and students). NO ONE IN THE MEDIA SEES THIS?????? Even the media is not that dumb and they use the "sensationality" created day one of this "Story" to generate new revenues while continuing their best Sargent Shultz journalistic impersonation ..."I See Nothing..."!
(3) More Bad Publicity for PSU - This assassination of Penn State's Image has many possible motives. The obvious one - linked directly to PA government - have been exposed by many here on this board. However, this CONTINUING attack on the Previously Pristine Penn State public image after 5 years makes no sense -- unless more and more "mis-information" needs to be manufactured as a means of hiding the real "TRUTH".
I suspect that we are approaching trials that will uncover some new proofs that the Sandusky matter (Presentment, Trial, conviction and linkage of PSU "executives" to State manufactured criminality) has serious flaws in it. This is one way to keep the public eye off of the overall situation (which is decidedly corrupt and significantly, if not totally, manufactured). The fear is that without the mountain of "Bad publicity" provided to the public about PSU, some will start to see the bigger picture - that is SERIOUS CRIMES HAVE AND CONTINUE TO BE DONE IN PA without regard to any rules - legal or otherwise!!!
OVERALL $$$ MOTIVE METHOD EXPOSED:
Now you start to see how the money trail which is consistently found throughout this ordeal works. The "pay offs", "pay backs" and "political compensations" are not in checks written directly to the real benefactors. They are interspersed between connected people who in turn provide the payback $$$$ to the "ultimate benefactor". THIS method of interspersed compensation ALSO INCLUDES payments to "...the VICTIMS...".
If you have followed this in detail from the beginning, read any book on how organized crime operates and the light bulb will go on!!!
Jesus, they want the attention. Every move they've made was to attract attention to the scandal and JVP as opposed to away from the scandal and JVP. These a-holes are still working hard...
And that was 5 years ago, I wonder if we can assume it will be even more vivid now? I'm pretty sure that is how memory works.
I am not advocating a settlement, but if McCreary is willing to settle within PSU's self insured retention and PSU goes to trial, Penn State could be on the hook for the entire judgement if it exceeds the self insured retention. Example: say the self insured retention is $1 million. McCreary makes a demand of $750,000. Penn State refuses and goes to trial. If a verdict comes in at $2 million PSU could have to pay the entire $2 million, with no payment by insurance because they had the opportunity to settle within the self insured retention. It all depends on how strong a case Penn State thinks they have and how reasonable McCreary's attorneys are with there negotiations.
Penn State has plenty of money, that's why. If you look at all the money they have spent on this issue over the past 5 years, and the decisions they have made while spending it, it becomes clear that money is not a decision variable. They claim poor mouth when talking to contributors and State funding panels, but turn around and give pay raises to the senior executives.
Actually, you are probably correct. However, no matter where he goes, he will have to carry the burden of his words/actions/inaction with him forever. No place in the world will grant him respite from that.
Hahahahahahaha!!!! Good one Bob ... thanks for the laugh this morning!McQueary won't settle. He is only interested in the truth.
Will there be more 'under seal' and confidentialty agreement provisions in any settlement? Seems status quo in all these affairs. I'm sick of it.
Let's hope, once settled he can speak publicly. But as the OP originally suggested, he's probably going to get a larger settlement if he agrees to a strict confidentiality arrangement.
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