MSU stonewalling Michigan AG in Nassar investigation
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AG suspends investigation of Michigan State over Nassar
Nessel's predecessor opened the investigation into the university's handling of complaints against Nassar, a former campus sports physician.
LANSING, Mich. — A criminal investigation into Michigan State University's handling of the Larry Nassar sexual abuse scandal has been suspended and could be coming to a close.
A spokeswoman for Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said Tuesday that the probe is suspended unless the school releases privileged documents or former interim president John Engler agrees to an interview.
Nessel's predecessor opened the investigation into the university's handling of complaints against Nassar, a former campus sports physician. One former school official has been convicted, and charges are pending against two others.
Nessel's predecessor opened the investigation into the university's handling of complaints against Nassar, a former campus sports physician.
LANSING, Mich. — A criminal investigation into Michigan State University's handling of the Larry Nassar sexual abuse scandal has been suspended and could be coming to a close.
A spokeswoman for Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said Tuesday that the probe is suspended unless the school releases privileged documents or former interim president John Engler agrees to an interview.
Nessel's predecessor opened the investigation into the university's handling of complaints against Nassar, a former campus sports physician. One former school official has been convicted, and charges are pending against two others.
F MSU. The state of Michigan should threaten to stop all state funding until they comply.
Okay, I taught middle school for 28 years and only took one school law class.
How does someone get away with not releasing documents in a criminal investigation where the wrong-doer has been found guilty?
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How does someone get away with not releasing documents in a criminal investigation where the wrong-doer has been found guilty?
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And our BOT released documents and a report they paid for without even reading it. Both situations are unbelievable to me.
I am not a lawyer, so I apologize if these are dumb questions.
Anyway, isn't what MSU is doing a form of obstruction of justice? How is this legal? And why is the AG letting them get away with it?
Anyway, isn't what MSU is doing a form of obstruction of justice? How is this legal? And why is the AG letting them get away with it?
I'm thinking that this should be pretty clear.
So Michigan State decides not to cooperate with the investigation anymore and the Michigan Attorney General office just says ok we’ll just suspend or possibly end the investigation now? And there’s no outrage by any media, the big ten, Delaney and company?
(By the way, nice news dump by the Michigan attorney general office at 4:30 pm on Christmas Eve.)
(By the way, nice news dump by the Michigan attorney general office at 4:30 pm on Christmas Eve.)
...... And I know this is going to sound wrong. So let me clarify that IMO the people at MSU are scum ..... But in a twisted sort of way, the advisory team and legal team at MSU are handling their case "the right way". Remember, their job is to protect their client. Their job is the welfare of their client, which is MSU. And if what they are doing is going to cause the AG of the State of Michigan to close the case, then they are doing their job. On the flip side, look at what PSU's council did.
If there is such a thing as "legal malpractice" then the council who advised PSU back in 2011/12 should have been sued for "legal malpractice".
On the flip, flip side, the Michigan AG's "client" is the citizenry of the entire state of Michigan, so...
It isnt clear hence why they are not releasing docs.
Elliot Spitzer showed why you never comply unless you have to comply.
Also nice job making this political for no reason.
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Unless you consider that their assignment was to make JVP the big shiny object to blame to point others away from the 2nd mile and the old guard bot
I agree. I think you are right. I think the BOT decided on a "blame the dead guy" defense. But I just do not understand their reasoning. What I think they failed to comprehend was that Paterno = Penn State. By laying the blame on Paterno, since Paterno = Penn State, then in effect you were laying the blame on Penn State.
They either understood this and still wanted it. Or, they were really stupid and did not comprehend, that to about 99.9% of the general public, Paterno & Penn State were one in the same.
Whoops! The Michigan AG misspoke! Fro the beginning of an AP article:
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan’s attorney general on Wednesday said her communications director’s statement announcing the suspension of a nearly two-year criminal investigation into Michigan State University’s handling of complaints against serial sexual abuser Larry Nassar was “inadvertently misleading.”
Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a written statement that the investigation is ongoing.
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Michigan’s attorney general on Wednesday said her communications director’s statement announcing the suspension of a nearly two-year criminal investigation into Michigan State University’s handling of complaints against serial sexual abuser Larry Nassar was “inadvertently misleading.”
Attorney General Dana Nessel said in a written statement that the investigation is ongoing.
So it's not suspended, just they can't go any further because MSU is stalling.
Yet still silence from Emmert and Delany.
Just further goes to show that if the BOT wanted this to go away, they could have made it go away.
Yet still silence from Emmert and Delany.
Just further goes to show that if the BOT wanted this to go away, they could have made it go away.
ncaa just lost a $100 million judgment for players’ likeness lawsuit. Ignoring this costs them nothing. They know their role. Unfortunately, penn state was the last victim of the NCAA’s fake power.
In Law & Order, they execute a search warrant and take what they want.
Judging by the Michigan AG office announcing at 4:30pm on Christmas Eve that they were suspending or ending the investigation, it sounds like they want it to disappear as much as MSU and Lou Anna Simon do.
Or some of them and their family members were complicit in the 2nd Mile handling of Sandusky and they determined that having Penn State take the hit and open its pocketbook was preferable to them taking a hit personally. Throw in being able to settle old scores with the soon to be dead guy and it was a no brainer for them. Thus the stipulation that any victim settling with Penn St agree not to sue the 2nd Mile. Bring in the shredder trucks and life is good for the Old Guard BoT and their families.
Maybe the AG office “clarified” their statement due to pushback?
I have no doubt the reactions/actions during subsequent scandals in academia and elsewhere is direct result of Penn State's bend over and take it then ask for forgiveness later approach and end result.
Maybe Michigan fans in that state can actually be good for something, and not let this go. Hopefully the clarifying statement is due to pushback.
Agreed. Our ineptness and bend over attitude was the blueprint for everyone else as to how to successfully navigate these situations and come away unscathed.
Wanted to protect themselves and take down Joe - reputation of PSU was an innocent bystander of their self-serving actions.
One thing I seem to have learned is that if a small number of people cooperate in the commission of a crime or obstruct an investigation, it’s a conspiracy. If a larger number of people do the exact same thing it becomes an acceptable “ cultural shift “.
Don’t ask me what the exact number is.
I'm sure the victims are furious about this and I except a huge backlash from them.
I don't understand how MSU can just get away with that.
I don't understand how MSU can just get away with that.
But it did not work out that way... "PSU was an innocent bystander of their self-serving actions"... Take for example the "Ped State" remarks that have become popular since 2011. Over the last 8-9 years I have heard a zillion cracks about "Penn State" in reference to Sandusky & pedophelia. So if that is what they tried to accomplish --- 'make Penn State an innocent bystander' --- they failed miserably.
My exact thoughts. Look at how PSU handled their scandal and do the exact opposite. PSU released a bogus internal investigation report and bent over for the NCAA. Everyone else claimed they did nothing wrong and flipped the bird at Emmert. Seems to have worked well for MSU, OSU, Baylor and UNC.
Now THAT is like the PSU case. Lol. Pretty big, nay, EXISTENTIAL question for your answer to be inadvertently misleading.
Thinking back to when our story sent shockwaves across the nation, Frank Fina's horrific lie about anal rape made it almost impossible for anyone to push back. Everyone saw the headlines and froze in paralysis.
One of the few people who knew better at the time was Graham Spanier. When he released his statement offering his full, unconditional support for Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, I cringed.
We didn't know it at the time, but several years later it became apparent that Spanier's response was right on the money.
One of the few people who knew better at the time was Graham Spanier. When he released his statement offering his full, unconditional support for Tim Curley and Gary Schultz, I cringed.
We didn't know it at the time, but several years later it became apparent that Spanier's response was right on the money.
That’s simply not true. There have been a ton of outside investigations by every law enforcement agency known to mankind. MSU has admitted guilt, fired everyone who was involved, people have been prosecuted, and over half a billion paid out to victims.
At some point, it’s time to move on.
At some point, it’s time to move on.
MSU just welcomed it it’s largest freshmen class ever and it’s being celebrated as it’s ‘most diverse’.
Problem is, if the trend continues, MSUs academics will suffer as a result and already has. MSU has let in students they normally would have rejected because they need the money.
It was recently reported some minority students couldn’t do basic algebra so MSU got rid of college algebra as a requirement unless you tested out of it.
