Naming names. What happened?

[Lion8286]

Tom Winter, who wrote the piece about the 6 assistant coaches who may have witnessed JSs actions, responded to a BWI poster chrism1965 with the following:

"I think you'll see in the coming days even more of our reporting that will name names and make this issue even more clear."

"in the coming days" generally means within a week. It's now been over two weeks since he promised a follow-up with more details.

Has he produced that follow-up? Has anyone in the MSM called him on it?

Here's the thread:

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threa...coaches-saw-sandusky-abuse-unreliable.116841/

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Tom Winter, who wrote the piece about the 6 assistant coaches who may have witnessed JSs actions, responded to a BWI poster chrism1965 with the following:

"I think you'll see in the coming days even more of our reporting that will name names and make this issue even more clear."

"in the coming days" generally means within a week. It's now been over two weeks since he promised a follow-up with more details.

Has he produced that follow-up? Has anyone in the MSM called him on it?

Here's the thread:

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threa...coaches-saw-sandusky-abuse-unreliable.116841/

Another blowhard phoney that knows nothing that gets attention anyway he can.

 

[BobPSU92]

What's a tom winter?

 

[Phil's Rug]

He's still trying to pull the names out of his ass, but with his head so far up there he's stuck.

 

[BBrown]

Tom Winter, who wrote the piece about the 6 assistant coaches who may have witnessed JSs actions, responded to a BWI poster chrism1965 with the following:

"I think you'll see in the coming days even more of our reporting that will name names and make this issue even more clear."

"in the coming days" generally means within a week. It's now been over two weeks since he promised a follow-up with more details.

Has he produced that follow-up? Has anyone in the MSM called him on it?

Here's the thread:

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threa...coaches-saw-sandusky-abuse-unreliable.116841/

Was wondering the same thing. I've been waiting and waiting.
Mostly I think Tom Winter is another blowhard journalist that doesn't know shit from shinola.
He can kiss my Ass.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

What's a tom winter?

A tom winter is a blustery one that promises a lot of precipitation, but always winds up producing little more than a flurry.

 

[jerseylion109]

ive been waiting for this as well...still think they are going to try to spin something out of nothing for more clicks but we will see. it was pretty crazy that in that 48 hour span we got hit with 3 anti joepa and PSU football stories back to back to back.

 

[Locolion]

A tom winter is a blustery one that promises a lot of precipitation, but always winds up producing little more than a flurry.

A "Tom Winter" occurs when I attempt to fart but shiite my pants instead.

 

[BOSCO2]

He's probably searching for the names of 6 dead former assistants so they can't deny it. He's just going with the flow.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

A "Tom Winter" occurs when I attempt to fart but shiite my pants instead.

See THAT's funny...childish perhaps, but "shart" jokes always make me laugh!!

 

[Lion8286]

See THAT's funny...childish perhaps, but "shart" jokes always make me laugh!!

 

[Phil's Rug]

He's probably searching for the names of 6 dead former assistants so they can't deny it. He's just going with the flow.

Probably trying to get a hold of McCue to corroborate the names

 

[Locolion]

See THAT's funny...childish perhaps, but "shart" jokes always make me laugh!!

Couldn't resist, saw an opening and shot the gap. "I just Tom Wintered! What a mess!"

 

[chrisrn1965]

Tom Winter, who wrote the piece about the 6 assistant coaches who may have witnessed JSs actions, responded to a BWI poster chrism1965 with the following:

"I think you'll see in the coming days even more of our reporting that will name names and make this issue even more clear."

"in the coming days" generally means within a week. It's now been over two weeks since he promised a follow-up with more details.

Has he produced that follow-up? Has anyone in the MSM called him on it?

Here's the thread:

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threa...coaches-saw-sandusky-abuse-unreliable.116841/

Good point! I think that tells me he has nothing of value to report. Perhaps his superiors warned him that "naming names" without evidence could result in an expensive libel suit.

 

[Lion8286]

Good point! I think that tells me he has nothing of value to report. Perhaps his superiors warned him that "naming names" without evidence could result in an expensive libel suit.

I was hoping you'd reply. You should send him a follow-up e-mail.

If he can't produce more he should retract the story.

 

[chrisrn1965]

I was hoping you'd reply. You should send him a follow-up e-mail.

If he can't produce more he should retract the story.

Your wish is my command. Here is what I wrote. I will post any reply I receive.

Mr. Winter:

In your last correspondence you stated "I think you'll see in the coming days even more of our reporting that will name names and make this issue even more clear."

I am guessing since you have not written a follow-up that you have nothing of substance to report on this story beyond the innuendo and rumors that constituted your original report.

Interestingly in your last email you stated that you do not source on hearsay, then followed up with the following: "We even have a victim that confirmed police told him that a coach saw it." Sounds like hearsay to me.

Chris

 

[jerseylion109]

That is an awesome response! Hahah

 

[Fox Chapel Lion II]

Your wish is my command. Here is what I wrote. I will post any reply I receive.

Mr. Winter:

In your last correspondence you stated "I think you'll see in the coming days even more of our reporting that will name names and make this issue even more clear."

I am guessing since you have not written a follow-up that you have nothing of substance to report on this story beyond the innuendo and rumors that constituted your original report.

Interestingly in your last email you stated that you do not source on hearsay, then followed up with the following: "We even have a victim that confirmed police told him that a coach saw it." Sounds like hearsay to me.

Chris

You won't get crap for a reply. These bozos always seem to get a bad case of amnesia.

 

[Lion8286]

You won't get crap for a reply. These bozos always seem to get a bad case of amnesia.

He (and his editor) should be inundated with e-mails then.

That story was so full of holes. NBC should be ashamed.

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

He's probably searching for the names of 6 dead former assistants so they can't deny it. He's just going with the flow.

And he was unable to find 6 deceased assistants thus no follow up.

 

[chrisrn1965]

You won't get crap for a reply. These bozos always seem to get a bad case of amnesia.

This did not take long:

Chris-

Because you believed that a private communication between two people should be posted on a public message board I will not communicate further.

The answer to your second question lies in the article. I'm sorry you're unable to see it.

Good luck to you,

-Tom Winter
NBC News Investigations

 

[Fox Chapel Lion II]

This did not take long:

Chris-

Because you believed that a private communication between two people should be posted on a public message board I will not communicate further.

The answer to your second question lies in the article. I'm sorry you're unable to see it.

Good luck to you,

-Tom Winter
NBC News Investigations

Typical arrogant media assmunch. He's got zilch. Nothing.

Hell will freeze over before he names squat.

 

[Lion8286]

This did not take long:

Chris-

Because you believed that a private communication between two people should be posted on a public message board I will not communicate further.

The answer to your second question lies in the article. I'm sorry you're unable to see it.

Good luck to you,

-Tom Winter
NBC News Investigations

LOL. Means he has NOTHING.

Journalism today is garbage. It's all about headlines, not research or real fact gathering.

 

[chrisrn1965]

Typical arrogant media assmunch. He's got zilch. Nothing.

Hell will freeze over before he names squat.

Exactly. He is upset that I posted his emails on a message board but did not respond to the substance of my email. He must be monitoring this board.

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

This did not take long:

Chris-

Because you believed that a private communication between two people should be posted on a public message board I will not communicate further.

The answer to your second question lies in the article. I'm sorry you're unable to see it.

Good luck to you,

-Tom Winter
NBC News Investigations

So this clown feigns indignance over your violating his private communication but he can write libelous fiction and pass it off as fact. Awesome. Iirc this clown has an Economics degree. Couldn't get a real job so he migrated to super sleuth investigative schmuck

 

[Lion8286]

Exactly. He is upset that I posted his emails on a message board but did not respond to the substance of my email. He must be monitoring this board.

Why should he be upset that you posted his e-mail? Is there something he's ashamed of then?

 

[Fox Chapel Lion II]

Exactly. He is upset that I posted his emails on a message board but did not respond to the substance of my email. He must be monitoring this board.

I hope he IS monitoring so now he can see I'm calling him out as a fraud, liar and blowhard.

'Investigative Reporter' my ass. He's lightweight garbage.

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

Exactly. He is upset that I posted his emails on a message board but did not respond to the substance of my email. He must be monitoring this board.

Where do you think he gets his info from? This Board is the mother lode.

 

[chrisrn1965]

Why should he be upset that you posted his e-mail? Is there something he's ashamed of then?

Great rhetorical question! If he stands by his reporting he should not have any problem with what I posted.

It really irks me that there is no accountability here. If he cannot support his story he should be forced to retract it.

 

[mathprof]

The answer to your second question lies in the article. I'm sorry you're unable to see it.

What was the second question?

 

[Lion8286]

Where do you think he gets his info from? This Board is the mother lode.

Make sure we don't spill the beans about what really happened to Ray Gricar.

 

[chrisrn1965]

What was the second question?

There wasn't really a second question. I just pointed out that he used hearsay to support his position that his story did not include hearsay. I guess his definition of hearsay differs from mine.

As WC Fields said "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”

 

[Lion8286]

Is there a way to find out who his editor is, and that person's e-mail?

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

Make sure we don't spill the beans about what really happened to Ray Gricar.

Well following this clown's modus operandi, Gricar told me that a cop told him that ....

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

There wasn't really a second question. I just pointed out that he used hearsay to support his position that his story did not include hearsay. I guess his definition of hearsay differs from mine.

As WC Fields said "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.”

Well, that and "I'd engage you in a battle of wits, but I don't want to take advantage of an unarmed man"

 

[simons96]

I hope he IS monitoring so now he can see I'm calling him out as a fraud, liar and blowhard.

'Investigative Reporter' my ass. He's lightweight garbage.

I hope he also reads that not only do I agree with you, but I think you are being too hard on lightweight garbage by putting it in the same category as his lying punk a$$

 

[LafayetteBear]

What's a tom winter?

Is he an albino?

 

[MichaelJackSchmidt]

Is he an albino?

RIP JOHNNY WINTER.

 

[Marshall30]

Is he an albino?[/QUOTE]


Yes. Dried white dog shit from your lawn.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I hope he IS monitoring so now he can see I'm calling him out as a fraud, liar and blowhard.

'Investigative Reporter' my ass. He's lightweight garbage.

And the dictionary synonym for "sharting". As in, what a "Tom Winter show", like a baby's diaper after a double-shot of pureed prunes.