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Naming names. What happened?

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Chris-

Because you believed that a private communication between two people should be posted on a public message board I will not communicate further.

The answer to your second question lies in the article. I'm sorry you're unable to see it.

Good luck to you,

-Tom Winter
NBC News Investigations
You must have hurt his feelings. Quit bullying this child.
 
This did not take long:

Chris-

Because you believed that a private communication between two people should be posted on a public message board I will not communicate further.

The answer to your second question lies in the article. I'm sorry you're unable to see it.

Good luck to you,

-Tom Winter
NBC News Investigations
That is actually kind of astonishing--that he thinks it is some big crime to take what he said and make it public? Not to be too obtuse about this, but isn't that what he does for a LIVING? Chris--was your email conversation with him "off the record?" No? Then his claim that you have somehow violated his privacy is utter BS. Imagine if a politician tried that.
 
That is actually kind of astonishing--that he thinks it is some big crime to take what he said and make it public? Not to be too obtuse about this, but isn't that what he does for a LIVING? Chris--was your email conversation with him "off the record?" No? Then his claim that you have somehow violated his privacy is utter BS. Imagine if a politician tried that.
Larry:

You are correct. There was no promise that the conversation was "off the record"
 
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just saw his response? Is that a joke? was there something private in his email? he never said keep this between us..what an idiot
 
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That is actually kind of astonishing--that he thinks it is some big crime to take what he said and make it public? Not to be too obtuse about this, but isn't that what he does for a LIVING? Chris--was your email conversation with him "off the record?" No? Then his claim that you have somehow violated his privacy is utter BS. Imagine if a politician tried that.

Love how he added the condescending "good luck to you" as well. That type of elitism is usually reserved for media stars and stenographers that are, you know, successful.
 
Larry:

You are correct. There was no promise that the conversation was "off the record"

Where I grew up, the Tom Winter's of the world were referred to as whinny wessels.....wusses with zero integrity or character. Pathetic little self-justifiying POS with zero morals, principles or decency - the diametric opposite of how the "Golden Rule" prescribes one should conduct themselves (e.g., with integrity and avoidance of hypocrisy - IOW, don't be a "sellout"). That $hitbag Ganim seems to be cut from the same clothe in terms of "self-justifying" lying and reprehensible behavior....modern media seems quite adept at producing these hypocritical, self-serving, self-righteous (without cause) whiny $hitbags.
 
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Where I grew up, the Tom Winter's of the world were referred to as whinny wessels.....wusses with zero integrity or character. Pathetic little self-justifiying POS with zero morals, principles or decency - the diametric opposite of the "Golden Rule"


"Whinny wessels?" Did you learn English from Lawrence Welk?
 
Where I grew up, the Tom Winter's of the world were referred to as whinny wessels.....wusses with zero integrity or character. Pathetic little self-justifiying POS with zero morals, principles or decency - the diametric opposite of the "Golden Rule"
The dude is so clueless he describes an obvious hearsay event in his "article" and subsequently denies its existence. Ganim's at risk of losing her 2nd Pulitzer to him. Or maybe his editors changed his verbiage and like the OGBOT and Freeh report, he never bothered to read it....
 
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SOME CAPS AND BAD WORDS ARE COMING YOUR WAY!!!!!!!


Wait til he finds out that Michigan's satellite camp at Paramus Catholic is SRO and it's going to be streamed live. And that Harbaugh is so popular in NJ that he's doing one especially for Fred Hansard at Hun.
 
Wait til he finds out that Michigan's satellite camp at Paramus Catholic is SRO and it's going to be streamed live. And that Harbaugh is so popular in NJ that he's doing one especially for Fred Hansard at Hun.

Awe, you scUM $hitbags LaJolla Ly'in, yourself and Har-douche make such a cute menege a trois. Happy endings all around.....
 
Wait til he finds out that Michigan's satellite camp at Paramus Catholic is SRO and it's going to be streamed live. And that Harbaugh is so popular in NJ that he's doing one especially for Fred Hansard at Hun.
Be careful with what you post..he could act on that. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Tick, tick, tick, tick!!!!!
 
Gee, couldn't you treat us to some more of your dissertations about how guilty JVP is, and righteous the corrupt are, esquire? Really, the board is so lacking without the scumbag POS flaming of LaJolla Ly'in.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

You mean Jerry I think as I never said Joe was guilty of anything. Joe was a victim of a witch hunt, but that doesn't mean I thought he was guilty. You apparently have some type of reading comprehension issue or you just make things up. Jerry raped little boys, he is guilt. Not Joe...hopefully that clears it up for you, but I doubt it.

When you have to make things up you are either crazy or you don't know WTF you are talking about. In this case, I can circle them both off. I'm not sure who is crazier on this site...your or weather boy TJ. It's a coin flip.
 
You mean Jerry I think as I never said Joe was guilty of anything. Joe was a victim of a witch hunt, but that doesn't mean I thought he was guilty. You apparently have some type of reading comprehension issue or you just make things up. Jerry raped little boys, he is guilt. Not Joe...hopefully that clears it up for you, but I doubt it.

When you have to make things up you are either crazy or you don't know WTF you are talking about. In this case, I can circle them both off. I'm not sure who is crazier on this site...your or weather boy TJ. It's a coin flip.

Don't you have a circle jerk session you are supposed to be attending with Fart, eeeeerrrrr, I mean Art? Run along and stick to what you scumbag, feckless esquires are best at - self-adulation and gratification......
 
I didn't expect you to say...Oooops I was wrong, but you avoiding the topic kind of was your way of admitting you just made up the Joe is guilty crap. Thanks....GET SOME MORE CAPS GOING!!!! Anger, LOUD WORDS, INSULTS. Get it going!!!!!:p

Wow, you've got some mad skills in the circle-jerking trolling area LaJolla Ly'in - that Jethro Bodine Double-Naught Spy Training is really paying off. You so clever......LMFAO!

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This did not take long:

Chris-

Because you believed that a private communication between two people should be posted on a public message board I will not communicate further.

The answer to your second question lies in the article. I'm sorry you're unable to see it.

Good luck to you,

-Tom Winter
NBC News Investigations

So then he's got nothing, pretty much what I thought. See this is what happens when your source is the town drunk.:rolleyes:
And maybe I missed it but how did he know you posted this on Tom's board?
 
Great rhetorical question! If he stands by his reporting he should not have any problem with what I posted.

It really irks me that there is no accountability here. If he cannot support his story he should be forced to retract it.

That's the problem with journalists. They're seldom held accountable for the crap they report, which is often factually inaccurate, and then after they have destroyed reputations and lives, all in the name of clicks and ratings, they move on to the next story du jour. They control the media, so they control the story and ultimately "reality". Reminds me of a quote by Philip K. Dick:

"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.”


In this instance, journalists do not so much manipulate words - the politically correct in our society do that - but they manipulate data/facts. And by manipulating facts (remember the completely fabricated story CNN ran about a massacre in Vietnam?) journalists (the media) control reality because they control what people read and subsequently believe. Reality is malleable. And when a person's reality is made up of non-sequiturs and fabrications, you get this:

"But the problem is a real one, not a mere intellectual game. Because today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups. . . . So I ask, in my writing, What is real? Because unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms."


-PKD circa 1978.

If you read anything by PKD you'll soon be astonished at how prescient he was when it came to how technology would shape the very worlds (realities) we live in - or think we live in.
 
That's the problem with journalists. They're seldom held accountable for the crap they report, which is often factually inaccurate, and then after they have destroyed reputations and lives, all in the name of clicks and ratings, they move on to the next story du jour. They control the media, so they control the story and ultimately "reality". Reminds me of a quote by Philip K. Dick:

"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.”


In this instance, journalists do not so much manipulate words - the politically correct in our society do that - but they manipulate data/facts. And by manipulating facts (remember the completely fabricated story CNN ran about a massacre in Vietnam?) journalists (the media) control reality because they control what people read and subsequently believe. Reality is malleable. And when a person's reality is made up of non-sequiturs and fabrications, you get this:

"But the problem is a real one, not a mere intellectual game. Because today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups. . . . So I ask, in my writing, What is real? Because unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms."


-PKD circa 1978.

If you read anything by PKD you'll soon be astonished at how prescient he was when it came to how technology would shape the very worlds (realities) we live in - or think we live in.

unfortunately, a lie can become so cemented in the public consciousness, it is hard to disengage it

I always think of the movie Hot Coffee

The whole narrative of "stupid woman burns herself with McDonalds coffee, sues for millions" is not only FALSE, it was embedded in the public consciousness by a PR firm hired by a lawyer group pushing through tort reform to limit the liability of corporations for malfeasance.

but I still hear idiots pushing the false narrative.
 
They essentially have the same thing Charlie Bucket had when he stole Fizzy Lifting Drink from Wonka...NOTHING.
 
unfortunately, a lie can become so cemented in the public consciousness, it is hard to disengage it

I always think of the movie Hot Coffee

The whole narrative of "stupid woman burns herself with McDonalds coffee, sues for millions" is not only FALSE, it was embedded in the public consciousness by a PR firm hired by a lawyer group pushing through tort reform to limit the liability of corporations for malfeasance.

but I still hear idiots pushing the false narrative.

I'll have to check out that movie. I, too, believed the "reality" as it was understood (told by those with the power to do so) when the story first came out. Mind you, I was much younger then, but still...no excuse. As sad as it is, unless you want to live a life in ignorance, you (the generic you) just can't believe everything (maybe anything) you read.
 
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just saw his response? Is that a joke? was there something private in his email? he never said keep this between us..what an idiot

Why would anything between two complete strangers (which I am assuming Winter and Chris are) be considered "off the record" and private? What person (Winter) would even think that way?
 
Why would anything between two complete strangers (which I am assuming Winter and Chris are) be considered "off the record" and private? What person (Winter) would even think that way?

He doesn't think that way.....it was simply the best, and most convenient, lame, made-up, self-justification "character attack" he could think of.....
 
When you see the documentary you will be aghast at the photos of the burns...simply horrendous. I was shocked by the reality that the woman couldn't escape the hot liquid because her clothing was saturated.

her injuries were horrific. and her family initially sent a letter to McDonalds corporate to cover her medical expenses NOT covered by her insurance
 
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