So how exactly does a college recalculate s kid’s high school GPA? Dart board?
NCAA proposes no MINIMUM TEST SCORES 2022
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You're welcome and good luck to your daughter.
I'm relating what the guidance office at the school where my wife teaches has told her. Best advice I can provide is for your daughter to research what the schools in which she has interest want.
It would also be to her advantage to do well on a standardized test and present the results. Again, what we've heard is that kids who send (good) scores have an advantage over those that don't. Impossible to say how much of an advantage, but it gives admissions officers another data point by which to differentiate. To put it in it's crudest form, say an admissions officer has two candidates with credentials that are near identical. The officer can only offer one. One provides an acceptable test score, the other provides nothing. Guess who is likely to get the offer?
Hey Hey Hey, Mary. Let's check your privilege and remember the words of our country's President, "Poor kids are just as smart as white kids." We don't need standards to confirm that a HS athlete is capable of being a college student.
We are absolutely over-educated (perhaps over-degreed is a better term). The lies young gen-x and millennials were told about the necessity of a college degree led to an over-supply of college educated people. Employers responded to the market and began requiring a bachelors degree instead of a HS diploma. It's far cheaper for an employer to hire a 22 yo who has demonstrated the ability to stick with 4 years of college vs investing in training an 18yo.
Even worse, it led to an abundance of partially-educated individuals with no degree, student debt and lack of access to many jobs that historically didn't require a degree.
I mean, seriously, can you imaging getting a Bachelor's degree and winding up as a secretary in an elementary school? Nothing wrong with the job, but certainly doesn't require a degree and frankly, doesn't justify the expense of a college degree.
The SAT was originally designed from an Army IQ test. The SAT score and IQ score correlates at around .86 with a low of around .75 after recentering while high school GPA and IQ at .50. I am not arguing student success because too many variables.
Should this board have some kind of test to impose a minimum intelligence level? If so, do we go with those above the line or below it?
I realize that a 400 score is very low and should be very easy to attain but if the average student now does not even need to take the SAT to be admitted why does an athlete need to? Come up with a different metric to assess the academic capabilities of these athletes. GPA is one and maybe the only one. Maybe raise it to 2.5 so it gets a little closer but still way off from what the average student would need to get into PSU for example.
FYI, the current minimum core GPA to qualify under NCAA standards is 2.3.
One step closer to just calling it “minor league football.” Shameful but apparently the NCAA doesn’t care.Dropping test scores for athletes entering college will damage College Sports & K-12.
Both college & K-12 require some academic performance from students wanting to participate in extracurricular sport and activities.
No entry test scores for college entry is opening the door isn’t just damaging to athletes but to all students. Having more students taking remedial HS courses in College doesn’t help anyone.
NCAA proposes to remove minimum test scores
An NCAA task force recommended on Friday that incoming freshmen in Division I and II sports should no longer be required to meet minimum scores on standardized tests for initial eligibility.www.espn.com
I don't get it either, my first semester in the tri-semester system was a whopping 1.5 🤬,
My advisor asked me to leave 😡
But that was 54 dumb yrs ago, time did seem to pass by so quickly since that horrible internship of life.
We're both right. Let's turn the clock back to the terms "full qualifier" and "partial qualifier." To be a full qualifier (eligible to receive financial aid, practice, and play), the minimum average is 2.3. Below 2.3 down to 2.0 is the "partial qualifier"......oops, dirty term......academic redshirt range, which means you can pay the kid and he can practice, but he can't play.
The biggest weight a college gives is to the student's grades, the rigor of their classes, and the student essays. There are problems with the SAT (correlates with income, not success in college) and recommendations (some counselors/teachers are just crappy writers or didn't know the kid that well). While colleges may allow the SAT or recommendations to be submitted, they use it as a datapoint in tie-breakers or for their waitlists. However, I'm hearing more and more that colleges aren't even looking at the SAT score or recommendations. But it certainly depends on the individual college and every one seems to be doing something a little different right now.
The best thing a kid can do if they want to get in their dream school: Push themselves to take rigorous classes (honors, AP, world language, challenging electives) in classes they enjoy and are good at, but don't overschedule/overwhelm themselves. Push that line but don't cross it because it doesn't help to take a bunch of AP's and get D's and F's. The next thing is for students to be involved in extracurriculars and community service where they have an opportunity to put their knowledge and skills to use in real-world situations. They have much stronger applications if they can speak in their essays (and the recommender in their recommendations) to their leadership, supporting their community, skills they learned outside the classroom, their commitment to practice (sports, competitive academic clubs), etc.
Just look at the College Board's own data. Scroll down to "family income" and watch the scores go up with each bracket: https://secure-media.collegeboard.org/digitalServices/pdf/sat/TotalGroup-2014.pdf
They do a simple, traditional GPA calculation with no weighting. Most high schools use a weighted GPA to give a boost to honors and AP classes, but they all do it differently, so it really isn't informative at all to how a student did in school. Some schools in California give double GPA's to students who take AP classes. Why should a college favor a student with their 7.5 GPA from California over a student from the suburbs of Philadelphia who has a 4.4 GPA after taking 10 AP classes (with a 1.0 weighting), over a student from rural PA who has a 3.9 GPA because their school doesn't have AP classes?
Thanks - This is really helpful. She is pretty much a straight A student and has a few AP classes and is on the Varsity Basketball Team so it sounds like she is on the right path.
