New Restrictions on Bars & Restaurants in PA

[PS4814]

https://www.pennlive.com/coronaviru...m-wolf-says-a-new-surge-is-in-the-offing.html

An order released Wednesday that will take effect at 12:01 a.m. on July 16 reduces indoor dining capacity at businesses in the retail foodservice industry from the current 50 percent to just 25 percent. It also forces bars to close unless they are serving sit-down, dine-in meals, and mandates that alcohol can only be served if it is within the same transaction as a meal or if it is for offsite consumption.

Additionally, bar service is prohibited, even outdoors, but the state’s outdoor dining rules have otherwise not changed. Takeout and delivery orders can continue to be placed, as well.

 

[Nitt1300]

put a mask on it

 

[PSU Lion 2000]

The bigger news is the 25 person restriction for indoor gatherings. That has to include school classrooms, right?

 

[JimNazium]

 

[psuro]

This could be a fun thread.

 

[interrobang]

Remember, covid doesn't spread at a bar if there's food there!

 

[RGWhirly]

Walmart, target, Lowe’s, and grocery stores more dangerous than restaurants given behavior I have seen in them with people not only not wearing masks but also crawling up your ass while you shop.

I understand not allowing people to gather at the bar, the restaurant drop from 50% to 25% BS IMO.

 

[sss]

Remember, covid doesn't spread at a bar if there's food there!

I'm sure you are being facetious, but you can see the difference here, right?

 

[MJG-90]

Walmart, target, Lowe’s, and grocery stores more dangerous than restaurants given behavior I have seen in them with people not only not wearing masks but also crawling up your ass while you shop.

I understand not allowing people to gather at the bar, the restaurant drop from 50% to 25% BS IMO.

Walmart just made masks mandatory nationwide.

 

[Nitt1300]

Walmart just made masks mandatory nationwide.

That could help- if they start enforcing it. They have been letting the entitled slide.

 

[MJG-90]

I'm sure you are being facetious, but you can see the difference here, right?

What difference are you talking about? What are we all supposed to understand that would make your post make sense? Connect the dots please.

 

[MJG-90]

That could help- if they start enforcing it. They have been letting the entitled slide.

Didn’t they just make that rule in the last day or so? How could you possibly already have data on the entitled?

 

[AWS1022]

That could help- if they start enforcing it. They have been letting the entitled slide.

Entitled at WalMart? Are those the ones with the double wide trailers?

 

[WDLion]

Entitled at WalMart? Are those the ones with the double wide trailers?

They're the ones with 10x40s with junk cars in the yard filled with beer cans.

 

[Nitt1300]

Didn’t they just make that rule in the last day or so? How could you possibly already have data on the entitled?

They've had it here for months- and they've been letting people slide on it for the whole time. Same at Lowes

 

[Nitt1300]

Entitled at WalMart? Are those the ones with the double wide trailers?

some of them are in single wides, I imagine

 

[AWS1022]

https://www.pennlive.com/coronaviru...m-wolf-says-a-new-surge-is-in-the-offing.html

An order released Wednesday that will take effect at 12:01 a.m. on July 16 reduces indoor dining capacity at businesses in the retail foodservice industry from the current 50 percent to just 25 percent. It also forces bars to close unless they are serving sit-down, dine-in meals, and mandates that alcohol can only be served if it is within the same transaction as a meal or if it is for offsite consumption.

Additionally, bar service is prohibited, even outdoors, but the state’s outdoor dining rules have otherwise not changed. Takeout and delivery orders can continue to be placed, as well.

I was just up in PA...these rules are not much different.

 

[MJG-90]

They've had it here for months- and they've been letting people slide on it for the whole time. Same at Lowes

It was just made company policy nationwide so they should be enforcing it.

 

[MtNittany]

I'm sure you are being facetious, but you can see the difference here, right?

I don't see a difference. The new restrictions do not allow people to just go to a restaurant and drink w/out ordering food. So they split some wings. How is that saving lives exactly?

 

[sss]

What difference are you talking about? What are we all supposed to understand that would make your post make sense? Connect the dots please.

The difference between bar service and a restaurant/bar serving sit down meals at 25% capacity. Unfortunately, a bunch of governors didn’t understand the difference and now we all have to pay. Imagine the crying if Wolf shut down all restaraunts AND bars.

 

[MJG-90]

The difference between bar service and a restaurant/bar serving sit down meals at 25% capacity. Unfortunately, a bunch of governors didn’t understand the difference and now we all have to pay. Imagine the crying if Wolf shut down all restaraunts AND bars.

Ah. Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Cletus11]

are some people that dumb? this shutdown's a lot of bars. so besides the 25% rule, how many 20 somethings are going out to bars to eat food and get a drink. they order drinks only. so basically ends the bar nightlife.

 

[sss]

are some people that dumb? this shutdown's a lot of bars. so besides the 25% rule, how many 20 somethings are going out to bars to eat food and get a drink. they order drinks only. so basically ends the bar nightlife.

To answer your question, yes. You see a lot of posts on this board, right?

 

[NittanyPirate]

Remember, covid doesn't spread at a bar if there's food there!

I like the way you think! Ive been telling people for years that it’s me that makes the dumb choices, not the alcohol.

 

[Pardlion]

https://www.pennlive.com/coronaviru...m-wolf-says-a-new-surge-is-in-the-offing.html

An order released Wednesday that will take effect at 12:01 a.m. on July 16 reduces indoor dining capacity at businesses in the retail foodservice industry from the current 50 percent to just 25 percent. It also forces bars to close unless they are serving sit-down, dine-in meals, and mandates that alcohol can only be served if it is within the same transaction as a meal or if it is for offsite consumption.

Additionally, bar service is prohibited, even outdoors, but the state’s outdoor dining rules have otherwise not changed. Takeout and delivery orders can continue to be placed, as well.

So when are the state stores closing?

 

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[cment]

That could help- if they start enforcing it. They have been letting the entitled slide.

Who are the “entitled” ones at at a wall mart? Shop there once or twice a week.

 

[NittPicker]

Who are the “entitled” ones at at a wall mart? Shop there once or twice a week.

It’s the people riding around in the electric carts.

 

[bison13]

Who are the “entitled” ones at at a wall mart? Shop there once or twice a week.

The ones not wearing masks in stores near me are far from entitled.

 

[Nitt1300]

Who are the “entitled” ones at at a wall mart? Shop there once or twice a week.

the ones who think they are entitled to be selfish and irresponsible- you don't have to be prosperous to be an idiot

 

[PSUQBKeeper]

It’s the people riding around in the electric carts.

well this is a whole other level of elitism, maybe you should be happy that you don't have any problems that make you use an electric cart to buy basic supplies

 

[jmorovich]

Entitled at WalMart? Are those the ones with the double wide trailers?

 

[NittPicker]

well this is a whole other level of elitism, maybe you should be happy that you don't have any problems that make you use an electric cart to buy basic supplies

Spare me the guilt trip my man. It didn’t work. You know who else is elitist? The people who pull up and stop in front of the store to load their car. WTF??

 

[jrd23psu]

Remember, covid doesn't spread at a bar if there's food there!

It also doesn’t care what color your county is in. This is where we are. COVID isn’t going anywhere no matter what color each county is on a map. Nobody likes the complete shutdown but nobody wants to do what needs done to avoid another one either.

People seem to want to ignore all of the things we can do to curb the transmission of this virus and then complain when we have to deal with the consequences of ignoring those things.

If we want to shed these restrictions then we have to diligently follow the guidelines on doing so. And no, your aunt or your buddy or Joe Blow your neighbor who posts on social media isn’t the expert on the subject. The experts on the subject are the medical community as a whole. The doctors, the infectious disease experts, the virologists. We know what works. Masks. Social distancing. Staying home. Avoiding large crowds.

It’s really that simple.

 

[PSUQBKeeper]

Spare me the guilt trip my man. It didn’t work. You know who else is elitist? The people who pull up and stop in front of the store to load their car. WTF??

ok I agree with you on that one

 

[marshall23]

It also doesn’t care what color your county is in. This is where we are. COVID isn’t going anywhere no matter what color each county is on a map. Nobody likes the complete shutdown but nobody wants to do what needs done to avoid another one either.

People seem to want to ignore all of the things we can do to curb the transmission of this virus and then complain when we have to deal with the consequences of ignoring those things.

If we want to shed these restrictions then we have to diligently follow the guidelines on doing so. And no, your aunt or your buddy or Joe Blow your neighbor who posts on social media isn’t the expert on the subject. The experts on the subject are the medical community as a whole. The doctors, the infectious disease experts, the virologists. We know what works. Masks. Social distancing. Staying home. Avoiding large crowds.

It’s really that simple.

There are an incredible number of science deniers and political conspiracy nuts. Add to that those who are just plain dumb shits and you have the mess we are in. We have raised a couple of generations of "children" that weren't subjected to the kind of discipline and structure that some of us had when we were younger. Their parents defended them and dismissed their actions without correction and now they are adults raising their children with the same permissiveness.
They have little regard for anyone but themselves and dismiss their inability to sacrifice for the good of others as their "constitutional rights."
They rail at the smallest inconvenience and blame everyone and every thing rather than come to grips with reality.

 

[berklion]

I only know one person that had Covid. He came back to work last week. He's about 55 and in good shape. From his description, I'd rather get kicked square in the nuts. That would only last a week.

 

[AWS1022]

It also doesn’t care what color your county is in. This is where we are. COVID isn’t going anywhere no matter what color each county is on a map. Nobody likes the complete shutdown but nobody wants to do what needs done to avoid another one either.

People seem to want to ignore all of the things we can do to curb the transmission of this virus and then complain when we have to deal with the consequences of ignoring those things.

If we want to shed these restrictions then we have to diligently follow the guidelines on doing so. And no, your aunt or your buddy or Joe Blow your neighbor who posts on social media isn’t the expert on the subject. The experts on the subject are the medical community as a whole. The doctors, the infectious disease experts, the virologists. We know what works. Masks. Social distancing. Staying home. Avoiding large crowds.

It’s really that simple.

Well, first of all a complete lockdown is not possible, so there is always the chance of spreading it. So let’s say everyone does the social distancing, masks, and stay at home for the next couple of months. That doesn’t mean the virus is going to go away. So then they start to open up and the cases start to increase again....do we then shut down everything again? As things open up the cases will increase no matter what. I’m not sure what the doomsayers think should be done.

 

[MtNittany]

If we want to shed these restrictions then we have to diligently follow the guidelines on doing so.

So we all need to listen to the people who have been wrong at every turn in order to put our businesses on a paying basis? What if they tell us to jump up and down with our finger in our nose? Do it? Or lose your business?

This (not the virus, the response) has run its course and any freedom loving American has had just about enough to be honest.

 

[MtNittany]

The PA leaders cited Florida (as many do here) as the reason for panic. Meanwhile on July 11th, these labs in FL reported 3,500 positive results and ZERO negatives. If you all think that's on the up and up, I'm frankly at a loss.