New rules for Fraternities announced just before the start of Thon
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The 5 year penalty seems conveniently long enough for PSU to claim "eminent domain" over the Beta house and have the expected lawsuits work their way through the corrupt PA judicial system. Until I Googled it, I didn't know Universities across the US have successfully used ED to secure valuable tracts of adjacent/proximal land (Ball St., Columbia, etc) in order to enlarge.
http://volokh.com/2012/09/19/using-eminent-domain-to-take-property-for-universities/
PPB: I'm not a Pennsyivania attorney, but a municipality's (or university's) right to initiate eminent domain proceedings with respect to a given parcel of land does not really depend on the passage of time (perhaps you were thinking of adverse possession or prescriptive easement proceedings, which DO). Rather, the exercise of eminent domain powers depends on establishing that there is a valid "public purpose" for taking the land in question. Legal requirements aside, you wonder whether the University really wants to take property from an organization that boasts a large number of PSU alums, some of whom are likely substantial donors. They'd have to have a pretty compelling need for the land in order to pursue that course.
mn78psu83: The difference is that Phi Delta Theta national revoked the charter of their Penn State chapter and terminated its existence. That is not happening with Alpha Upsilon Chapter of Beta Theta Pi. The Betas may be off campus for a period of time, but they will be back. Their alums will see to that. I know a number of them, and they are good people.
Many thanks for researching and clarifying the ownership of both the house and the land. I now find it more interesting that there are PSU maps out there that falsely show the Beta land to be part of the "campus".
I don't trust any of the PSU "Old Main Pinheads", but I do know they are well-connected and suspect that they are salivating over the Beta property; hence why I allowed 5 years for this to be "litigated".
The 5 year "penalty" seemed rather onerous to me, but I suspect it was done for a reason
Well, perhaps a little more explanation will help here. I learned this from a Beta alum.
Some years back, the University DID in fact own the land on which the Beta house currently sits. Beta owned most or all of the land on which Deike Hall (or is it called the Deike Building?) currently sits. The University wanted to trade, and Beta accommodated them. You are probably looking at some maps that predate this exchange of land.
By your logic, every privately owned building in every municipality is no longer part of said municipality.
As if the death of a young man wasn't enough.
"Penn State athletic trainer lived at Beta Theta Pi during fatal party"
Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/education/penn-state/article135505788.html#storylink=cpy
"Penn State athletic trainer lived at Beta Theta Pi during fatal party"
Read more here: http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/education/penn-state/article135505788.html#storylink=cpy
Can somebody explain this to me? Is it common for frats the have grown adults in their fifties living there? I find this so bizarre on so many levels.
Think it's common practice for Greek organizations to have local alumni advisors & likewise commonplace for fraternities to have rooms available for rent. These rooms will often be separate & distinct from the Fraternity house (with separate bathing, ingress/egress access, etc.), and wouldn't necessarily be what you might typically think of as a "shared living situation."
Given those, having an alumni advisor who lives on premises doesn't seem terribly odd.
What Zeno said is true. Every fraternity and sorority is required to have a faculty advisor. And often fraternities will accept boarders to occupy rooms that might be empty to help provide revenue to cover operating expenses. I've never heard of adult advisors living there though.
A lot of the quotes from this Marino woman sound really awkward though, as does the headline. He lived there "during" the party? Not before or after, or at the time of? It also seems strange that a guy who worked for an NFL team for 20 years would have to live in a fraternity house.
A lot of the quotes from this Marino woman sound really awkward though, as does the headline. He lived there "during" the party? Not before or after, or at the time of? It also seems strange that a guy who worked for an NFL team for 20 years would have to live in a fraternity house.
1. If they really wanted to do that why not do it the first time they disbanded the fraternity?
2. Eminent domain doesn't have a time period.
3. Nothing is preventing the alumni chapter from renting the rooms out to students. So having occupied by a fraternity or a bunch of honor students make no difference.
4. Kappa Delta Rho got disbanded 3 years for Facebook posts. I would say 5 years for a dead pledge is reasonable.
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