Nick Lee Question
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Next years lineup with Lee will be in my opinion the best Cael has ever put together. You are looking at a legit possibility of 10 AAs and 5 champs. I feel dumb saying that and a huge homer but run through that lineup and you'll see for yourself how stacked it will be.
I was just thinking about that this morning. That team will be scary.
I imagine Nick Lee goes next year and he won't be your run of the mill freshman, either. While he cannot compete this year unattached for PSU since he is a HS senior, he's living in SC and training with the NLWC. Essentially, this is like a RS year for Nick Lee, although without the benefit of competing in tournaments.
And while tournaments are a big help and part of the RS process, I still think he's going to be much further ahead than if he wrestled in Indiana his senior year at the high school level.
And while tournaments are a big help and part of the RS process, I still think he's going to be much further ahead than if he wrestled in Indiana his senior year at the high school level.
This was linked on HR, but check out who is ranked #8 at 61kg in US Senior freestyle while still being the age of a HS senior (and he tech'd the #3 guy at 57kg):
https://iawrestle.com/2017/01/06/usa-wrestling-senior-mens-freestyle-rankings/
https://iawrestle.com/2017/01/06/usa-wrestling-senior-mens-freestyle-rankings/
Nick Lee's situation is undecided at this early point in time...Cael & Co. is forward looking, for sure, but their forward view ends at St. Louie in March...plenty of time after that to work on next season.
Assuming everyone stays healthy, I just arbitrarily tossed some estimated NCAA point values on who would be in our line up, and I got ranges of 160-175.
And I was fairly conservative with a few of our wrestlers.
Iowa has the all-time record at 170.
Check this out - it's mind blowing:
125 Suriano - 20
133 Cortez - 10
141 N. Lee - 6
149 Zain - 26
157 Nolf - 26
165 Joseph - 15
174 M. Hall - 20
184 Nickal - 24
197 - MM/Cess - 10
285 - Nevills - 15
That's 172 ... and I'm being slightly conservative with some kids.
Roar will hate this thread. Lol. But fans are allowed to speculate for fun.
Not at all, love the thread. Speculating about the future is fun. Talking about the benefits of saving/removing Mark Hall's RS is fun. Getting mad and arguing about any of this stuff is not.
Unfortunately 141 will still be loaded next year.
Heil
Jack
Kolodzik
McKenna
Ashnault
Meredith
Thorn/McKee
Eierman
Hayes
Perry
Red
Yianni?
Gasca
Don't see many moving up. Bolded are the guys who would be gone if he waited a year.
Heil
Jack
Kolodzik
McKenna
Ashnault
Meredith
Thorn/McKee
Eierman
Hayes
Perry
Red
Yianni?
Gasca
Don't see many moving up. Bolded are the guys who would be gone if he waited a year.
Interesting stuff. The kid looks like he will be a monster and as soon as next year, if he wants.
Don't need the points at all. The question is whether Lee wants to wrestle or not, I suppose.
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That is scary. But you need to pay attention, Iowa has it all wrapped up next year.
Looking at next year lineup, I'd let Kade Moss go at 141.
We will win the title by 30-40+ Pts with or without Nick Lee.
Reward the senior who did everything that was expected of him.
I love the "all-star" like rosters we are building - they're fun !! - but it's nice to see the veteran program kids be rewarded for their hard work & loyalty.
That's a message that needs to stay with the program, that the hard working Kade Moss / James English / Zack Beitz kids will get their chances.
We will win the title by 30-40+ Pts with or without Nick Lee.
Reward the senior who did everything that was expected of him.
I love the "all-star" like rosters we are building - they're fun !! - but it's nice to see the veteran program kids be rewarded for their hard work & loyalty.
That's a message that needs to stay with the program, that the hard working Kade Moss / James English / Zack Beitz kids will get their chances.
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Guys. George Carpenter is 1-5 this year. 10-24 for his career. In what world would we ever want him to start? Someone was comparing him to Josh Moore? Stop this. His ceiling is Pearsall. I'm glad he turned out to be a better backup than I thought.
It's Hawkeye fan stuff.
It's Hawkeye fan stuff.
Yes. The plan right now is he will be shooting for 141. We will see though...
Let's just pray and hope Hall wrestles this year and soon....Cassar is back wrestling live now and will wrestle off at 97 against Matt Mc.....Cassar is very tough....
Some of gods greatest gifts are unanswered prayers
Going to revise my broken record: we don't need Hall OR Cassar to win this year.
Yes, figured that after I already replied, a bit distracted today
With Nick spending the year in State College, there is obviously an agreed upon plan for him. Not sure anybody but Nick and Cael know what's been agreed to.
I hope MM stays healthy all season. I'd hate for him to have to "miss the dance" this year.
Where is Nick Lee? I don't think he graduated and I only see Joe in the Intermat rankings.
Nick is in State College training with the NLWC (and I assume taking online classes?) but not competing in any high school matches anymore.
Nick is wrestling Zain, Frank, Tatsuhiro Yonemitsu, and other worthies this year. I wouldn't sweat it
intermat ...schmereamat rankings. He skipped those and worked his way into senior level rankings....as a HS senior.
PS-he beat the #3 at 57kg too.
PSS-did pretty well at Whos #1
http://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestlin.../USA-Wrestling-Senior-Mens-Freestyle-Rankings
PS-he beat the #3 at 57kg too.
PSS-did pretty well at Whos #1
http://www.teamusa.org/USA-Wrestlin.../USA-Wrestling-Senior-Mens-Freestyle-Rankings
141 is still stacked for next season. However, I still think that he would slot in anywhere from 5th to 8th immediately at 141. Stud!
Others answered your question about where Nick is this year. As for the rankings, I like how Flo handled Nick's situation. They removed him from the rankings at his weight class, but they kept him in the P4P (currently ranked #6, behind Spencer Lee, Yianni (who is out for the season due to surgery), Daton Fix, Gable Steveson, and Vitali Arujau). FWIW, Michael Beard just entered Flo's P4P, and Willie's commentary makes it clear that it came down to Beard and Travis Wittlake as to which would take a spot in the P4P (after Austin Gomez dropped out after losing at the Clash).
For next year, once the current seniors are removed, it looks as though Gable Steveson, Gavin Teasdale, Roman Bravo-Young, Michael Beard, and Travis Wittlake will be top 5 in the P4P, though there is a lot of HS wrestling to take place between now and then, so the top 5 may be a little different than what I speculated it would be.
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