Bullsh i t. If everyone believed that they wouldn’t be in the portal they’d be sticking out and battling to win the starting spot where they’re at and Will Levis would have stuck it out here.
"No good quarterbacks were available in the portal"
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Bullsh i t. If everyone believed that they wouldn’t be in the portal they’d be sticking out and battling to win the starting spot where they’re at and Will Levis would have stuck it out here.
Will Levis wasn't competing with Clifford for the starting job? Levis seems good enough to be getting a lot of playing time.
The desire to complicate simple, straightforward issues is apparently incessant.
Not sure what part of the repeatedly-made point that quality QB's don't typically transfer to destinations where they are almost guaranteed NOT to start is confusing?
Not sure what part of the repeatedly-made point that quality QB's don't typically transfer to destinations where they are almost guaranteed NOT to start is confusing?
Again, his job was to find a backup who he could still beat Illinois with, and he failed
Yes one. Because kids from Louisana are just dying to get to central PA. It’s not the draft, Franklin doesn’t get to write a kids name on a card and make it so.
Still waiting for the full ten.
13 of them are starting or competed for starting jobs because the incumbent didn’t come back you dumbas s.
Finley, Milton, Bowman
Actually 14 since McNamara wasn’t the starter for most of last season at Michigan, so it’s just Finley and Milton.
You people defending Franklin do understand that their starting quarterback was a transfer and the quarterback that beat us was a walk on who went there after leaving Michigan? Both in 2021.
Art Sitkowski transferred to sit and he just beat James Franklin, your hero, as a 24 point underdog
Ok, cool. Then the corollary to that is that he was bad at recruiting QBs. And honestly, if you go down the list of every qb who transferred (which I don’t have handy), are you telling me there wasn’t one better than a Clifford that could barely move or throw?
I mean they had 30 passing yards. Roberson could have handed the ball off 75 times. We don’t beat Iowa or Illinois with art Sitkowski unless the running game is putting up 300 yards.
Could you guarantee them Clifford would be unable to move or throw at some point this season? Hell they couldn’t convince Levis to stay and he had actual sweat equity in the program, you don’t think kids in the portal took notice of that?
Art Sitkowski would have been our savior, give me a break.
Considering most of them won starting jobs not many.
How do you know any of those transfer portal guys (who didn’t care about having a chance to start) could beat Illinois? You don’t, so quit while you’re behind.
I just counted 52 QBs in the transfer portal right now. Many of which were rated 3 stars. I'm not sure exactly how this works. But it would appear those guys are currently without a team. It didn't say when the player entered the portal also. I'm working under the assumption that at least some of them were there before the season. That means they would rather sit out than be at PSU holding a clipboard? Franklin couldn't get any of them to sign? Are they all so bad that they likely couldn't beat it TR for second string?
Did Franklin contact any of the better portal QBs to compete for the starting job? Why not make the team better if there was a QB better than Clifford who would sign?
Did Franklin contact any of the better portal QBs to compete for the starting job? Why not make the team better if there was a QB better than Clifford who would sign?
Post some of the 52. I’m counting 16 portal qbs that didn’t land anywhere in 2021. 8 3 stars. Highest rated being Kevin Doyle, who is a pa kid actually. But didn’t enter the portal til late April. Never saw a snap at Arizona.
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Here is a link to what I used.
If one of Franklin’s assistants had performed similarly in terms of not doing his job, Franklin would not hestitate to replace him. What I am talking about is starting the season without a viable backup QB. It is not conceivable to me that Franklin did not know he had a big problem if Clifford got hurt after Levis transferred. Roberson had been here long enough for him to get the sense of whether he could play.
I don’t know for certain whether there were serious efforts made to obtain a QB from the portal. Maybe somebody knows, but I heard nothing. Maybe Yurcich had an option in mind. This subject had to come up at meetings, and it’s not plausible that the possibility of Clifford getting injured was discounted.
I don’t know for certain whether there were serious efforts made to obtain a QB from the portal. Maybe somebody knows, but I heard nothing. Maybe Yurcich had an option in mind. This subject had to come up at meetings, and it’s not plausible that the possibility of Clifford getting injured was discounted.
Info from a guy I know who's roommate at PSU played for JVP and is still active in the program...Franklin and Yurcich went after a bunch of portal QB's over the summer. All of them wanted to be assured of being a starter....just letting you know what this guy said...
You would think the average fan would be able to figure this out without inside information. These guys are in the portal because they’re not starting. Why did Levis go to Kentucky instead of some bigger name program?
Here is a link to what I used.
Filter for immediate eligibility. Not a whole lot there. Doyle maybe but clearly wasn’t good enough for a terrible Arizona program. He’s super active on Twitter so someone here whose into all that should slide into his DMs or something.
They may if they are undergrads. Learn the offense year 1 and it’s wide open next year. He’ll have a head start in any freshman coming in. The salesmanship needed to get this done isn’t hard for a salesman.
will Franklin go after Rattler?
Doesnt make it the norm, and any underclassman are aware of what’s coming in next season. Dude listed 16 transfers we should have gone after. 13 of the 16 went to destinations without the 2020 starter returning (14 if you don’t consider McNamara at UM an incumbent).
That list is current. You have to dig into the complete list and their timeline for commitments. I suspect Levis was told there is no competition going into the spring. You are clearly #2 unless you clearly indicate you aren’t. That’s the issue. Why no open competition with a new OC? Best man starts but #2 is still going to see quality time since we have two very good QBs.
It’s the guys who had eligibility this season but aren’t on any roster. The argument I guess was that why wouldn’t these guys be happier here holding a clipboard (from their perspective) and they’re better than nothing (from psu’s).
Does anyone know what Levis was told?
Simplest answer is usually the right one but we need conspiracies about how Franklin should have coddled Will into staying.
I see that now. I don't understand why some guys are listed as immediately eligible and some are pending, etc. It just seems like there are some guys who are sitting at home instead of at least having a chance to compete.
How many of them are better than TR, who couldn't even execute a snap in the Iowa game. At this point 2 legs 2 arms and a pulse would at least get you in the conversation.
To the extent that there is an argument over whether someone would transfer to back up a starter. Around 2018 and 2019 Ohio State was able to obtain Chris Chugunov and Gunnar Hoak after Tate Martel left and another backup had left. Chugunov was second string at West Virginia and was reasonably serviceable at Ohio State as a backup.
Recruiting missteps. If anyone of Roberson Bowins or Johnson would have have panned out the QB situation would be completely different right now.
Well, neither got a chance here. So basically Franklin got lucky with Clifford and Trace cause everyone else he has gotten should be playing D1A. For as much of a great recruiter Franklin is supposedly, he sure manages to have a bunch of holes.
Who knows. By accounts I've read on here, staff said he doesn't know playbook and can't throw accurately. He may need to play regardless, don't see Clifford making it through.
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