Notre Dame's recruiting class...(OT)

[PSUriseANDfire]

It's solid but not solid in comparison to what Kelly did there recruiting the first few years. They obviously could finish really strong but they also might end up with a class outside the top 20. I wouldn't doubt that Kelly's act is starting to wear thin with everyone. We will see, he is insane and I doubt he has much more leash left with the priests.

 

[BobPSU92]

Donuts on the front lawn at 3 a.m. aren't working? Cursing at players while foaming at the mouth isn't working? That's just the start with kelly.

 

[psufan9808]

Who cares unless they are a threat to us? Right now they are only a minor threat. I'm waiting on Urban's next medical (ahem...coeds) issue. He blew up UF after a couple of championship caliber teams, he will do the same to tO$U. That is when we would benefit.

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

Who cares unless they are a threat to us? Right now they are only a minor threat. I'm waiting on Urban's next medical (ahem...coeds) issue. He blew up UF after a couple of championship caliber teams, he will do the same to tO$U. That is when we would benefit.

Well last year if they weren't a threat they wouldn't have taken multiple recruits away. That might have happened regardless(the Barajas commit never made sense) but Wimbush hurt.

And Notre Dame and PSU compete for a lot of the same guys. So I just think it is interesting that they have stalled a little. My bet is that this is Kelly's last year there.

 

[psufan9808]

I just don't get why they would be considered relevant by anyone at this time. South Bend isn't all that. Their women are known to be not so great. They were a power program in the mid 1900s but I doubt many recruits know much about that unless they enjoy watching things before color TV. They did "play" for a championship a few years ago in the most laughable title loss in recent memory. They are simply a relic of a time that has long past, when 220lb linemen ruled and the forward pass was a fairly new invention.

 

[BobPSU92]

I just don't get why they would be considered relevant by anyone at this time. South Bend isn't all that. Their women are known to be not so great. They were a power program in the mid 1900s but I doubt many recruits know much about that unless they enjoy watching things before color TV. They did "play" for a championship a few years ago in the most laughable title loss in recent memory. They are simply a relic of a time that has long past, when 220lb linemen ruled and the forward pass was a fairly new invention.

Yeah, guys in leather helmets sitting on horses in a black-and-white photo probably doesn't play well with recruits today.

 

[HazletonLion]

Their powerful schedule in the past was a big selling point.Now playing an ACC heavy schedule will
probably hurt them.

Should have joined the Big when they had the chance,right smack in the middle of recruiting country.

 

[Ian]

HazeltonLion, I love ur profile pic.

PSU's upset of highly ranked NC State in 1967 was my very first game and I was hooked! My dad drove me and a friend to SC from Wilkes Barre. That was JoePa's signature win.....

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

Should have joined the Big when they had the chance,right smack in the middle of recruiting country.

I really think they will regret that too. It might change someday but it would have been better for their hoops and football programs. They would own baseball.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

The great ones that endure at the college level share one thing in common and that is they are all visionaries that were firm but fair teachers and personable. Joe, Knute, The Bear, Robinson, Woody, Bowden .... Now some of these guys images suffered because of losing a grip on their programs a bit because of the limitations of aging... but in the end they exhibited in their prime the aforementioned common traits. I predict and I sincerely believe, Kelly has none of the traits necessary to sustain a great college program and will go up in flames shortly.

I expect some of you will howl at the list for one or more black mark on the coaches records in their tenure. Take away, however your fan hats and think about each coach mentioned in the light of what he did and what he was in his prime. Then take a look at the brute Kelly... he inspires nothing of mention or worth to anyone, especially the young with some ideals and aspirations ahead of them and parents that care about them and their dreams.

 

[HazletonLion]

HazeltonLion, I love ur profile pic.

PSU's upset of highly ranked NC State in 1967 was my very first game and I was hooked! My dad drove me and a friend to SC from Wilkes Barre. That was JoePa's signature win.....

Ian, it was my first game too i went on a high school trip" West Hazleton ". I was in the South end zone for that game, Onkotz's punt return,the goal line stand what a game.

 

[HazletonLion]

I predict and I sincerely believe, Kelly has none of the traits necessary to sustain a great college program and will go up in flames shortly.

Rip in my opinion Ara was ND's best, they had a smooth transition with Devine ,but they lost momentum when they dumped Dan.
ND since has had little patience with head coaches.

 

[Cletus11]

ND record last year was not very good. And when ND has a bad record, they typically do not recruit that well the following year. They are a program that really has peaks and valleys as if they lose early, nobody tunes into their games and they do not have a conference that is a reason to keep watching them. I think ND is on a continued long steady course down as they will not be able to keep up with the P5 programs with the occasional good year.

 

[GregInPitt]

Cameron Brown had a ND offer. I don't think Kelly will win too many battles outside of ND's 100 mile radius with CJF. Yes, he got Wimbush. I doubt if he would have gotten Wimbush away from CJF this year, now that CJF is tearing it up with this class and the sanctions B.S. is fading into the past.

It will only get better for CJF and worse for ND/Kelly.

 

[lionville]

I really think they will regret that too. It might change someday but it would have been better for their hoops and football programs. They would own baseball.

LOL!!!! Not with Mik Aoki as their coach. The guy left BC for ND because he couldn't win in the ACC. Who leaves the ACC for the Big East? He's an awful coach. He won't win anything at ND.

 

[TheGLOV]

This just in: SCREW NOTRE DAME!

That is all.

 

[PSU.:.]

ND is always a threat to PSU. See last Year as a good example. Let's hope Kelly leads them off a cliff.

 

[ejb25]

Wimbush went to St. Peters Prep and his coach is a ND fan boy and was constantly urging him and his mom to visit ND well after his commitment. Things like that are hard to overcome....

 

[Rick from SC]

HazeltonLion, I love ur profile pic.

PSU's upset of highly ranked NC State in 1967 was my very first game and I was hooked! My dad drove me and a friend to SC from Wilkes Barre. That was JoePa's signature win.....

NC State 1967 was my first game too. Tim Montgomery's int in end zone and late goal stand won it.

 

[Ian]

On a grey and blustery November afternoon. Yes, the goal line stand was the defining moment that catapulted JoePa to another level although I was disappointed in the Gator Bowl tie that year. I think they blew a 17-0 halftime lead against the Noles. The next 2 years were magical.

 

[NittanyAmerica]

If Kelly doesn't land the QB Humter from Indiana, then I think he is done.

If we land Hunter, we are set for year's to come.

N i t t a n y A m e r i c a

 

[TheGLOV]

Screw N.D.!!!!

 

[Ian]

We'll see. Clifford sounds like a real competitor with skill, a leader, and a winner. Plays for a great program and wants to be the 2017 "captain" and chief recruiter.

 

[dawgduice]

ND is always a threat to PSU. See last Year as a good example. Let's hope Kelly leads them off a cliff.

I have to agree historically ND and Michigan have been our biggest threat in recruiting. I do not see that changing.

 

[Ian]

Don't kid yourself. We primarily compete with the B1G for kids and ND is apart of the B1G. They just don't know it!!!

 

[shak66_psu]

Kelly is a royal ass - why anyone would want to play for that buffoon is beyond me. One more crap house season and he is long gone.

 

[EPC FAN]

Kelly is a royal ass - why anyone would want to play for that buffoon is beyond me. One more crap house season and he is long gone.

He called his quarterback a "f*cking moron" on national TV. It was plain as day. Who the hell would want to play for that louse?

 

[psufan9808]

Anyone else notice the recruiting cycle at Notre Dame?

1) New coach is hired and the media proclaims them the savior of college football
2) Immediate recruiting success at ND on hype alone
3) Mediocre or slight improvement first year for new coach on the field but hype mounts
4) Continued recruiting success at ND on continued hype
5) Ultimate failure of the coach within 3 or 4 years accompanied with recruiting downturn as hype machine was proven to be a joke
REPEAT

Remember strategic advantage Weiss? Remember how that guy was recruiting? Remember how All-American HS recruits never seemed to get better in their 4 years at ND? Weiss is the poster boy IMO for ND coaching in the 21st century. A lot of hype, a lot of wasted football talent, and a lot of cellulite and pompous bloated talk.

 

[Ranger Dan]

Who leaves the ACC for the Big East

ND is now part of the ACC (not full member), not the Big East

 

[wplion]

First of all, the fact that this thread exists proves that ND is relevant, at least in some of your minds. They don't have threads on the ND site about PSU recruiting. Second, they played for a National Championship 3 years ago (Not very well) but they were in the game. I agree that Kelly is an complete jerk, but the school is really good and they have a history in college football that may be the best, period. The school has a huge endowment and is getting richer. ND is not going away.

 

[Peetz Pool Boy]

It's solid but not solid in comparison to what Kelly did there recruiting the first few years. They obviously could finish really strong but they also might end up with a class outside the top 20. I wouldn't doubt that Kelly's act is starting to wear thin with everyone. We will see, he is insane and I doubt he has much more leash left with the priests.

Very good post. Kelly's living on borrowed time, but then I ask myself who could replace him?

ND could go to the pros but they've done that already. They could go for the hot assistant coach, but they've done that also.

The Golden Domers have problems if Kelly doesn't win it all this year.

 

[rjg82]

First of all, the fact that this thread exists proves that ND is relevant, at least in some of your minds. They don't have threads on the ND site about PSU recruiting. Second, they played for a National Championship 3 years ago (Not very well) but they were in the game. I agree that Kelly is an complete jerk, but the school is really good and they have a history in college football that may be the best, period. The school has a huge endowment and is getting richer. ND is not going away.

I was just going to post this. The fact that this thread exists makes ND relevant.

 

[bdgan]

I just don't get why they would be considered relevant by anyone at this time. South Bend isn't all that. Their women are known to be not so great. They were a power program in the mid 1900s but I doubt many recruits know much about that unless they enjoy watching things before color TV. They did "play" for a championship a few years ago in the most laughable title loss in recent memory. They are simply a relic of a time that has long past, when 220lb linemen ruled and the forward pass was a fairly new invention.

Notre Dame's last 3 recruiting classes were ranked #3, #11, and #11 respectively. They played for the MNC 3 years ago. They got their ears kicked in but still finished 4th in the polls. I'd hardly call them irrelevant.

 

[TheGLOV]

Rip in my opinion Ara was ND's best, they had a smooth transition with Devine ,but they lost momentum when they dumped Dan.
ND since has had little patience with head coaches.

Very valid points sir!

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

I was just going to post this. The fact that this thread exists makes ND relevant.

Anyone that would say they aren't relevant is lying to themselves to begin with. This thread doesn't mean a single thing, the fact that they are a national recruiting program that poached 5 top 250 recruits from not only PSU but others is relevant. It's also relevant seeing their recruiting slowing down and good for everyone(especially PSU) who is in direct recruiting competition with them.

 

[BobPSU92]

I was just going to post this. The fact that this thread exists makes ND relevant.

nd is relevant on a Penn State message board for a few days until the thread disappears in favor of newer topics. That is hardly the same as relevant in college football, as in being a national power.

 

[lionlurker]

ND is not what they once were, and they never will be again, but they are no less relevant than they ever were.

 

[HazletonLion]

I was just going to post this. The fact that this thread exists makes ND relevant.

Every team in FBS are relevant.

 

[lionlurker]

Every team in FBS are relevant.

Pitt isn't.

 

[PSUriseANDfire]

Well the funny thing is that there is more posts regarding Pitt on this board even though Pitt is actually a smaller recruiting threat. What's the score since Franklin took over? It's pretty one sided. He was seriously prepared to dominate the state and the region.

Amazing how few out of this class are actually PA kids. Very positive sign too. This program is going to explode soon.