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I had an interesting conversation with a former employee of the Houston Texans today. I’m not going to reveal his employment position or his name out of discretion but when I mentioned Obie and that I am a Penn Stater this guy said “James Franklin is a significant upgrade than Bill O’Brien. Penn State is much better off.” I asked why and he said “Bill O’Brien is one of the most arrogant and abusive guys he’s worked for as a player or coach.” He elaborated and I shared how he played the University for a contract extension and a bonus.

With that the conversation ended abruptly because this guy had other rhings to attend to.

Interesting...I never expected to hear that.
And you're figuring this out now?

Of course O'Brien is an self-driven egomaniac. That's what makes him hated and yet periodically successful.
 
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I had an interesting conversation with a former employee of the Houston Texans today. I’m not going to reveal his employment position or his name out of discretion but when I mentioned Obie and that I am a Penn Stater this guy said “James Franklin is a significant upgrade than Bill O’Brien. Penn State is much better off.” I asked why and he said “Bill O’Brien is one of the most arrogant and abusive guys he’s worked for as a player or coach.” He elaborated and I shared how he played the University for a contract extension and a bonus.

With that the conversation ended abruptly because this guy had other rhings to attend to.

Interesting...I never expected to hear that.
Not much of a surprise. We got what we needed out of BOB and are in a much better position.
 
Eh, whatever.
I guess I was taken aback because I had never heard anyone characterize BoB as an abusive dick before. I know that there have been plenty of dicks in the NFL Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Walsh, Parcells, and
Belichek.

I told this story a few times, but I was at a number of practices during BOB’s time and was embarrassed at his foul language and demeanor. It doesn’t make a difference to me if someone curses, but there were women and children present, most of whom were relatives of recruits. It isn’t something I would expect from our coach and embarrassed me as a supporter of the university.
 
I had an interesting conversation with a former employee of the Houston Texans today. I’m not going to reveal his employment position or his name out of discretion but when I mentioned Obie and that I am a Penn Stater this guy said “James Franklin is a significant upgrade than Bill O’Brien. Penn State is much better off.” I asked why and he said “Bill O’Brien is one of the most arrogant and abusive guys he’s worked for as a player or coach.” He elaborated and I shared how he played the University for a contract extension and a bonus.

With that the conversation ended abruptly because this guy had other rhings to attend to.

Interesting...I never expected to hear that.

He’s not wrong.

Makes me want to put my fist through a windshield...!
 
I told this story a few times, but I was at a number of practices during BOB’s time and was embarrassed at his foul language and demeanor. It doesn’t make a difference to me if someone curses, but there were women and children present, most of whom were relatives of recruits. It isn’t something I would expect from our coach and embarrassed me as a supporter of the university.
Ahh. he called his team "a bunch of Fu$kers" on national TV...
 
Eh, whatever.
I guess I was taken aback because I had never heard anyone characterize BoB as an abusive dick before. I know that there have been plenty of dicks in the NFL Lombardi, Landry, Noll, Walsh, Parcells, and
Belichek.
18 Super Bowls, just sayin'. Not a business for the squeamish. Now add in Tom Coughlin, Don Shula, Joe Gibbs, Mike Ditka and Jimmy Johnson (none of whom were sweethearts) for 8 more. 50% of all SB's won by 10 guys who were giant BSD's. That tells me something.
 
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I had an interesting conversation with a former employee of the Houston Texans today. I’m not going to reveal his employment position or his name out of discretion but when I mentioned Obie and that I am a Penn Stater this guy said “James Franklin is a significant upgrade than Bill O’Brien. Penn State is much better off.” I asked why and he said “Bill O’Brien is one of the most arrogant and abusive guys he’s worked for as a player or coach.” He elaborated and I shared how he played the University for a contract extension and a bonus.

With that the conversation ended abruptly because this guy had other rhings to attend to.

Interesting...I never expected to hear that.

Arrogant = all football coaches. Especially those who win.

How was he Abusive? Are we about to have a #meto moment?
 
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I told this story a few times, but I was at a number of practices during BOB’s time and was embarrassed at his foul language and demeanor. It doesn’t make a difference to me if someone curses, but there were women and children present, most of whom were relatives of recruits. It isn’t something I would expect from our coach and embarrassed me as a supporter of the university.
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that there would ever be profanity involved on the practice field. Thank God we never heard any foul language when I was in the service.
 
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that there would ever be profanity involved on the practice field. Thank God we never heard any foul language when I was in the service.

I’m shocked, SHOCKED someone would not be able to distinguish a distinction between cursing as a means to motivate soldiers and having the grace to not do the same in front of women and children.
 
I won a trip out to Denver with the Steelers and I just want to go on record that Chuck Noll was one of the nicest human beings I have had the pleasure to meet. I don’t know how he was with the team, although I could hear some yelling from outside the locker room after the game (they lost). But he really was a first class individual.
 
I won a trip out to Denver with the Steelers and I just want to go on record that Chuck Noll was one of the nicest human beings I have had the pleasure to meet. I don’t know how he was with the team, although I could hear some yelling from outside the locker room after the game (they lost). But he really was a first class individual.
The only person I ever heard speak ill of Noll was Bradshaw, and Bradshaw is an idiot.
 
I had an interesting conversation with a former employee of the Houston Texans today. I’m not going to reveal his employment position or his name out of discretion but when I mentioned Obie and that I am a Penn Stater this guy said “James Franklin is a significant upgrade than Bill O’Brien. Penn State is much better off.” I asked why and he said “Bill O’Brien is one of the most arrogant and abusive guys he’s worked for as a player or coach.” He elaborated and I shared how he played the University for a contract extension and a bonus.

With that the conversation ended abruptly because this guy had other rhings to attend to.

Interesting...I never expected to hear that.
OB served his purpose, but James is a huge upgrade for PSU...
 
By year 2 it was clear that O'Brien would never win a college national title. He knew it as well and got out.
 
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Obie coaches like an NFL coach. He's probably going to always have a job but his days at the throttle in Houston I think are numbered. It's kinda surprising to me that he's still there.
He does have a way of “pushing buttons” and doing what is necessary to stay alive.

When he meets with the owner at the end of the season, he can simply declare “you’re not spending enough to allow the hiring of a decent OL. You’re the problem, not me” !!!
 
It was a blessing in disguise when he left. His days as ahead coach in the NFL are about over.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up as a college coach again simply because it’s going to be a long time before someone gives him another job as a head coach in the nf.
 
It was a blessing in disguise when he left. His days as ahead coach in the NFL are about over.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up as a college coach again simply because it’s going to be a long time before someone gives him another job as a head coach in the nf.

It may happen, but, I'm not sure where he could coach in college. Perhaps Maryland, but he likely realizes that situation is a uphill battle. Maybe he just wouldn't care as long as they dramatically overpaid him, which they might.

His best situation would be some Big XII team, where he could play zero defense and score 70 ppg.
 
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I'd tend to agree with that statement. When Obie had a decent team in 2012 he made the most of it in general. I remember an Iowa game that had the Iowa defense spinning much like our defense on the last two OSU dries last week. He was crafty with the offense. His liability was in other areas of the college game and PSU culture as far as I remember.
 
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I'd tend to agree with that statement. When Obie had a decent team in 2012 he made the most of it in general. I remember an Iowa game that had the Iowa defense spinning much like our defense on the last two OSU dries last week. He was crafty with the offense. His liability was in other areas of the college game and PSU culture as far as I remember.

It just struck me that he had no interest in living in a college town or doing most of the college football routine.

I don't think he'll ever change in that regard.
 
O’Brien was the right guy at the right time. Both PennState and Bill got what they wanted needed out of their relationship.
Yep. and we have a better situation now. Franklin will be here for 10 years minimum, and will make the CFP at least once.
 
Year two of Penn State’s sanctions would be a horrible time to judge a coach’s ability to win a national title.
Perhaps, but, I do recall the utter lack of preparation vs. OSU in 2013. And the pointless 4th down gambles that gave PSU its only loss ever to Indiana.

And, albeit we had limited scholarships, the total disregard for OL recruiting was unforgivable and PSU still has not totally recovered.
 
Perhaps, but, I do recall the utter lack of preparation vs. OSU in 2013. And the pointless 4th down gambles that gave PSU its only loss ever to Indiana.

And, albeit we had limited scholarships, the total disregard for OL recruiting was unforgivable and PSU still has not totally recovered.

Unprecedented situation. The entire team could have transferred but didn’t and O’Brien deserves some credit for that. I can’t think of many that would have done much better in those circumstances but it could have easily been much much worse. Jim harbaugh has done marginally better with no such hinderances. Pat Narduzzi much much worse.
 
Unprecedented situation. The entire team could have transferred but didn’t and O’Brien deserves some credit for that. I can’t think of many that would have done much better in those circumstances but it could have easily been much much worse. Jim harbaugh has done marginally better with no such hinderances. Pat Narduzzi much much worse.

He deserves a lot of credit. The program stayed together on his watch. I still don't think he'd win an NC anywhere at the college level. He would focus all of his recruiting energy on his favorite recruiting positions of QB, TE and WR, which he clearly did at PSU. Yes, he had limited scholarships but I feel that he would have had about the same focus with more scholarships.

Perhaps most telling was his unwillingness to hire an OC, and the way he treated his QB coach and LB coach, firing them even when he knew he was going to quit. Those actions told me that he was a control freak, unable to delegate on offense, cared primarily about getting recognition for himself, and was possibly passive aggressive.
 
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