no you wanted him in jail. you think we forgot?
Official Graham Spanier trial thread.
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no you wanted him in jail. you think we forgot?
Summarizing what I've heard about this trial:
Well played, commonwealth.
- The commonwealth opened by letting the jury know they could expect Curley and Schultz to provide them with all the info necessary to find Graham Spanier guilty, and
- The commonwealth closed by calling Curley and Schultz liars and criminals.
Well played, commonwealth.
if I have to go back and pull the posts, I will be pissed
but it just demonstrates how delusional and dishonest he/she/it is
There are two references to "coach" from Curley in the e-mails.
E-Mail #1: There was the "touched base with coach" e-mail on May 5, 1998
E-mail #2: There was the "coach is anxious to know" e-mail on May 13, 1998
The Penn Live article that references what Curley said indicates that in the former e-mail "coach" is in reference to Paterno. The article then throws in a reference to the other e-mail implying it also refers to Paterno, but that is not explicitly stated; given how the media has distorted the facts for sensationalism during this story, I'm not jumping to any conclusions about E-mail #2 until I see a transcript of the trial.
Furthermore, someone previously indicated that Harmon said that the coach in E-mail #2 was in reference to Sandusky.
So.... let's wait and see what is clarified.
Regardless, I don't think Paterno knowing that a 1998 investigation existed means much of anything. It depends on what details he was told and we have no clarity on that.
I don't know if that strategy will work with this jury. Won't be surprised with a guilty verdict.
Isn't this the outcome Frank Sheeran predicted? Get all of this over with quickly. "It's bad for business". End of story.
The Federal agent who made the report stating there was no evidence of a cover & cleared the way for Spanier to keep his federal security clearance was at the courthouse. Seems like his testimony would have helped. Maybe the defense is taking a knee do the lack of case the prosecution made.
They had to take a knee. mcqueary wasn't available for the touchdown bomb since he testified for the prosecution.
The deliberation process should be interesting. 7 women and 5 men. Hopefully there is at least one intelligent individual on the jury who can be a voice of objective reason and demonstrate to the others that the State of Pa. came no where close to proving their case beyond a reasonable doubt.
I'm afraid that is what will happen also. Then Spanier will appeal the case, and it will drag on for another year.
The guy who did the security clearance investigation on Spanier? I have no idea if he was ever in the FBI. The entity that he was working for at the time he did the investigation was Federal Investigative Services, which falls under the umbrella of OPM (Office of Personnel Management). Having said all that, FIS doesn't exist anymore. A new entity was created to do Federal background checks called the National Background Investigations Bureau (NBIB).
Why? They knew they were going to talk to McQueary and that they were likely to hear something where they would eventually need an attorney's input. Timing indicates nothing.
I think at worse there is a hung jury, at best he is a free man.
This is what I was thinking too. There has to be at least one person on that jury with common sense that wont buy into the OAG BS
Why is this person not banned from this board? He/She/It isn't even in the courtroom.
Apparently not, & Zigler said the man was in the courthouse. Seems as thought the Defense is taking a knee. The problem with that is that they jury may say Not Guilty to the felony charge, but say guilty to the misdemeanor thinking that somebody should pay regardless of intent or not.
All part of the master plan from Day 1 IMO. We'll never know the real story which is exactly what they want, yet on top of it, they get a guilty misdemeanor on C/S and my prediction is not guilty on Spanier. Also, trial shows no cover-up which allows University to dust off Joe's statute.
They had to take a knee. mcqueary wasn't available for the touchdown bomb since he testified for the prosecution.
Hope Doug Graber isn't on the jury
Or Paterno simply wanted nothing to do with this and did a lot of heeing and hawing. Maybe Paterno thought he conveyed that something of a sexual nature but Tim didn't see it that way. No one knows. I have an opinion that I think is reasonable, but I acknowledge that it is only an opinion (and it doesn't include Paterno being a mastermind). Why that would upset you, I do not know.
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