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Official PSU - Georgia St. Game Thread

Margin of victory means nothing, this was about keeping a zero on the visiting score column. Time will tell whether this was a meaningful lesson/motivation tool, or if it's just a petty act of vanity. Joe wouldn't have done it, but Joe isn't coaching this team.
What Franklin did against Michigan - I'm good with it.
What Franklin did tonight against GaSt - I'm good with it.
What Joe would or would not have done - who cares? Is this or is it not 2017? I don't care one iota about what Joe would have done.
 
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Actually he said he had the wrong unit on the field and they weren't lined up correctly. His words.

Fair enough. When I watch the tape of the game later this week, I'll be watching to see if it truly was a different batch of Nittany Lions out there.
 
Because they kicked the FG for the sole purpose of being able to say they weren't shut out. No other purpose. It's cheap. I'm glad Franklin did it. Wished he would have put Stevens in on the last play to heave one deep. Enough of this crap.


Kicking a FG on 1st 2nd or 3rd down would have been tacky. It was 4th down, I have no problem with the FG try.

If they had thrown the ball into the end zone instead of running it on 4th and one, well, you probably wouldn't be happy with that call either.
 
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Kicking a FG on 1st 2nd or 3rd down would have been tacky. It was 4th down, I have no problem with the FG try.

If they had thrown the ball into the end zone instead of running it on 4th and one, well, you probably wouldn't be happy with that call either.

Ah, c'mon. That's just silly. You don't kick a FG with 10 seconds left and losing 56-0. I thought it was cheap and obviously Franklin did too. And guess what, his opinion is the only one that matters. And since mine agrees with the only one that matters, that means I win and you lose.
 
Margin of victory means nothing, this was about keeping a zero on the visiting score column. Time will tell whether this was a meaningful lesson/motivation tool, or if it's just a petty act of vanity. Joe wouldn't have done it, but Joe isn't coaching this team.

Jesus ... please make it stop
 
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I think JF explained it perfectly. "I get it" he said, referring to what Georgia State was trying to do.....get off the schneid. But, "I have to worry about my kids"....who fought for and wanted a shut out.
Hey folks, there are two sides and not always a breach of etiquette.
When I coached, given what I considered a comfortable lead, I pulled my 1st string and I didn't care what the opponent did.
I coached against guys who would never pull their first string when leading unless the opponent put their reserves in first (as a sign of the white flag). You can drive yourself nuts with petty bullshit.
 
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Who concerns themselves with a shut out that much and then puts in obviously inferior personnel? You're right, I would have been furious if Franklin left starters in, but that's because while a shut out is nice, its really pretty irrelevant. Seriously, who cares whether its 56-3 or 56-0?

Obviously Franklin played back-ups to get them experience and rest the starters. Franklin may not have been focused on the shutout at that moment since there was still a lot of game left. However, on the game's final play, he wanted the shutout. Circumstances change throughout the course of a game, and coaches adjust to changed circumstances.
 
Very simple.

GASt played to the end. They wanted to get on the board. Penn State played to the end. They wanted the shutout. Only one team can get what they want. In this case, it was Penn State.

That's it. No OUTRAGE. :eek: . No classless move. No hate. It's just football. It's competition.
 
I have absolutely ZERO problem with what either coach did at the end of the game. The GA ST coach wanted to end the game with one very small positive note after getting destroyed. A FG attempt was more likely to yield that positive than chucking a ball into the end zone. Franklin wanted to preserve the shutout for his team. We all know that college football today is very different than it was even ten years ago. Perception is everything. A shutout means something. So he did what he had to do.

Both teams competed to the end and the coaches did what they had to do for THEIR teams. Period.
 
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Maybe the team gets some sort of reward for a shutout. We may never know. That being said, CJF owed it to them to try to preserve it after 59 minutes and 49 seconds of doing so.
 
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Are the people calling out CJF for the timeout last night the same ones who complain about JVP calling off the dogs vs. Indiana in '94 and costing PSU another MNC?

Good question. I was at that game in '94 and was disappointed by the ending, but I understood what Joe was doing. Then when Penn State slipped in the polls, I was pissed that people only looked at the score. Few people consider nuances. Joe did, but most people are superficial and just look at score. So, run up the score and remove all doubt.

As for last night's game, 56-0 and 56-3 are really no different, but Franklin wanted the shutout. I get it, and he has a right to do what he can to preserve it. We don't know what Franklin is thinking, but looking at his comments after the pitt game and calling the timeout last night, perhaps Franklin has a chip on his shoulder after last year's playoff snub. Franklin tends to take the position that it's all about his team, and I think he is particularly focused on that after last year.
 
Good question. I was at that game in '94 and was disappointed by the ending, but I understood what Joe was doing. Then when Penn State slipped in the polls, I was pissed that people only looked at the score. Few people consider nuances. Joe did, but most people are superficial and just look at score. So, run up the score and remove all doubt.

As for last night's game, 56-0 and 56-3 are really no different, but Franklin wanted the shutout. I get it, and he has a right to do what he can to preserve it. We don't know what Franklin is thinking, but looking at his comments after the pitt game and calling the timeout last night, perhaps Franklin has a chip on his shoulder after last year's playoff snub. Franklin tends to take the position that it's all about his team, and I think he is particularly focused on that after last year.
We seem to have the only fans that are upset about it....says something about our fans.
 
Ah, c'mon. That's just silly. You don't kick a FG with 10 seconds left and losing 56-0. I thought it was cheap and obviously Franklin did too. And guess what, his opinion is the only one that matters. And since mine agrees with the only one that matters, that means I win and you lose.

Hey Madsol - wanted to stop in and apologize for my post on Saturday. Also, after rewatching the play it wasn't a 'broken play', as McSorely ran right Barkley was pealing off across the front of the LoS, McSorely had him in his line-of-sight the entire time and when Barkley was free to the left he passed back across his body and planted the pass squarely on Barkley's hands. Awesome read and execution.

That being said - your description of a 'broken play' was not accurate - that would be 100% a 'fluke'.

What I took exception to was you and the other flock-of-seagulls piling on - if you want to debate something - do so, but to keep posting repeatedly that something was 'broken' was only being childish and clueless.

peace - out
 
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