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Ohio State, the most BS "national champ" in 34 years

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The historical comparison for 2024 Ohio State is probably 1990 Colorado. Colorado had a legitimate claim to #1 - until you examine their season carefully. Colorado, like Ohio State, had two non-wins: a loss to Illinois and a tie with Tennessee. Colorado, like Ohio State, had two screwjob "wins": one was the notorious Fifth Down against Missouri, and the other was the infamous phantom clipping against ND in the Orange Bowl. For Ohio State, the two screwjob wins in 2024 were Penn State and especially Nebraska.

I'm not a Notre Dame fan, but Rocket Ismail giving Lou Holtz the thumbs up, then scoring what should have been the winning TD, is seriously some of the coolest s*** ever.

I've recounted the PSU game before, but, to repeat briefly: the ridiculous standing up wrong penalty against Zion Tracy was worth 7 points; the Judkins fumble overturn was worth 3 points and probably more since PSU would have had the ball at the OSU 43; and the egregious and uncalled DPI by Caleb Downs on Dinkins on 4th and goal cost us another 4 plays from the 1 (and, remember, if not for the Tracy penalty and the Judkins overturn, Penn State would have been leading the game, not trailing by 7).

But the Nebraska game was even more ridiculous. Matt Rhule spent the entire game shaking his head at the laughably one-sided standards for officiating in that game. Go watch it yourself if you don't believe me. Uncalled false starts, uncalled holds, uncalled DPIs, a debatably correct catch overturn, a "winning" INT for Ohio State set up by an uncalled PI, an infamous bad spot (off by over a yard and a half) that cost Nebraska at least 30 seconds and a timeout ... that game had everything imaginable to get Ohio State to the playoff.

So that's the 2024 Buckeyes. They were the best team out of the 12 in the playoff, but they didn't deserve to be one of those 12.

And the problem is that as long as fans continue to have this attitude of, well, it doesn't matter what the refs do, you need to find a way to win, Big Ten officiating will continue to decline and the great favorites - Ohio State and Michigan - will continue to the benefit of the detriment of the sport. And don't believe for one minute it's coincidence that Michigan beat Ohio State but Nebraska didn't. Nebraska's defense held Ohio State to even worse rushing numbers but Michigan's the only team that will, in the Big Ten, consistently get reasonably two-sided officiating against Ohio State.

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What? Lol...they beat Tennesse Oregon Texas and ND to win a title. Add a regular season win over us. Might be the best ever

Name 12 better. Can't use us or Indiana
You have a loser mentality. Grow up
Okay, first of all, calling this the best ever is downright comical. I can name multiple Ohio State teams that were easily and obviously better off the top of my head: 1968, 1975, 1996, 1998, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2022. Not all of these won national titles, but none of them had the good fortune this Ohio State team had either.

The 2014 team was thoroughly unimpressive in its first 11 games but from the second half of the Michigan game on, they were probably the best an Ohio State team has performed possibly ever.

Anyway, way to miss the point, buddy, which is that Ohio State got a title shot EXCLUSIVELY because of bad Big Ten officiating in two games.

But, hey, as long as you continue to ascribe demanding fair officiating to loser mentality, this sport will continue to get worse and more blatantly unfair.
 
Okay, first of all, calling this the best ever is downright comical. I can name multiple Ohio State teams that were easily and obviously better off the top of my head: 1968, 1975, 1996, 1998, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2022. Not all of these won national titles, but none of them had the good fortune this Ohio State team had either.

The 2014 team was thoroughly unimpressive in its first 11 games but from the second half of the Michigan game on, they were probably the best an Ohio State team has performed possibly ever.

Anyway, way to miss the point, buddy, which is that Ohio State got a title shot EXCLUSIVELY because of bad Big Ten officiating in two games.

But, hey, as long as you continue to ascribe demanding fair officiating to loser mentality, this sport will continue to get worse and more blatantly unfair.
I think the upcoming NFL draft might disagree with you as OSU could have 16 to 17 players drafted and break Georgia's record of 15 around 3 or 4 years ago. This 2024 OSU team was loaded and the 4-game run to the NC was really impressive.....whether some want to admit or not. They proved it on the field.....not in subjective polls like in decades past.
 
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I think the upcoming NFL draft might disagree with you as OSU could have 16 to 17 players drafted and break Georgia's record of 15 around 3 or 4 years ago. This 2024 OSU team was loaded and the 4-game run to the NC was really impressive.....whether some want to admit or not. They proved it on the field.
Oh, yeah, draft class, that's indicative of the best team, just ask 1986 Miami or 2019 and 2015 Ohio State.

Is anyone here going to prove my assertions wrong? That Ohio State was saved from 8-4 by bad calls? Can you find similar high leverage calls that went AGAINST Ohio State in those games? No, you can't.

Did 91 Washington, 94 PSU, 95 Nebraska, 99 FSU, 01 Miami, 04 USC, 19 LSU, heck, you fill in the blank, did those teams need a bunch of BS reffing to win natties? No, they did not.

The refs will not get better in this conference because fans like ours are too gutless to demand the AD do something about it.
 
Oh, yeah, draft class, that's indicative of the best team, just ask 1986 Miami or 2019 and 2015 Ohio State.

Is anyone here going to prove my assertions wrong? That Ohio State was saved from 8-4 by bad calls? Can you find similar high leverage calls that went AGAINST Ohio State in those games? No, you can't.

Did 91 Washington, 94 PSU, 95 Nebraska, 99 FSU, 01 Miami, 04 USC, 19 LSU, heck, you fill in the blank, did those teams need a bunch of BS reffing to win natties? No, they did not.

The refs will not get better in this conference because fans like ours are too gutless to demand the AD do something about it.
Pretty sure PSU had more draftable players than ND, yet somehow we didn't win....

Ohio State beat PSU and Nebraska because of the refs. Anyone who disputes that won't be able to successfully defend the position. They are a fraudulent national champ. End of story.
 
Oh, yeah, draft class, that's indicative of the best team, just ask 1986 Miami or 2019 and 2015 Ohio State.

Is anyone here going to prove my assertions wrong? That Ohio State was saved from 8-4 by bad calls? Can you find similar high leverage calls that went AGAINST Ohio State in those games? No, you can't.

Did 91 Washington, 94 PSU, 95 Nebraska, 99 FSU, 01 Miami, 04 USC, 19 LSU, heck, you fill in the blank, did those teams need a bunch of BS reffing to win natties? No, they did not.

The refs will not get better in this conference because fans like ours are too gutless to demand the AD do something about it.
Doesn't matter what you think.....it's your opinion which comes across as jealousy. OSU won 4 in a row against 4 of the best teams in the country, again, proving it on the field. LIVE WITH IT - END OF STORY
 
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Doesn't matter what you think.....it's your opinion which comes across as jealousy. OSU won 4 in a row against 4 of the best teams in the country, again, proving it on the field. LIVE WITH IT - END OF STORY
"comes across" is a key phrase

You cannot disprove the FACT that Ohio State would have gone 8-4, and missed the playoff, and fired Ryan Day, because of the refs.

And as long as people continue to shout down anyone who demands accountability in officiating, Penn State will never win a national title in football.
 
Okay, first of all, calling this the best ever is downright comical. I can name multiple Ohio State teams that were easily and obviously better off the top of my head: 1968, 1975, 1996, 1998, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2022. Not all of these won national titles, but none of them had the good fortune this Ohio State team had either.

The 2014 team was thoroughly unimpressive in its first 11 games but from the second half of the Michigan game on, they were probably the best an Ohio State team has performed possibly ever.

Anyway, way to miss the point, buddy, which is that Ohio State got a title shot EXCLUSIVELY because of bad Big Ten officiating in two games.

But, hey, as long as you continue to ascribe demanding fair officiating to loser mentality, this sport will continue to get worse and more blatantly unfair.
Stop blaming the officials--believing the officials determine games is asinine. They didn't determine a single outcome.
You just want it to be unfair
Yes, beating Tennessee, then Oregon, Texas and ND in the playoff is the most impressive run ever--we've never had anything like that. Never.
 
"comes across" is a key phrase

You cannot disprove the FACT that Ohio State would have gone 8-4, and missed the playoff, and fired Ryan Day, because of the refs.

And as long as people continue to shout down anyone who demands accountability in officiating, Penn State will never win a national title in football.
It's not a fact--you're wrong in claiming they would have lost those games.
Dead wrong
How did the officials cost us? We had ND lined up and Cam fell down--we lost because we deserved to lose
This is honestly pathetic. This is why Penn State fans have the reputation that they do
 
"comes across" is a key phrase

You cannot disprove the FACT that Ohio State would have gone 8-4, and missed the playoff, and fired Ryan Day, because of the refs.

And as long as people continue to shout down anyone who demands accountability in officiating, Penn State will never win a national title in football.
There it is ---- the refs fault again. Comical
 
Stop blaming the officials--believing the officials determine games is asinine. They didn't determine a single outcome.
You just want it to be unfair
Yes, beating Tennessee, then Oregon, Texas and ND in the playoff is the most impressive run ever--we've never had anything like that. Never.
Not that hard to figure out, is it? Well, for most of us anyways
 
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Anyway, way to miss the point, buddy, which is that Ohio State got a title shot EXCLUSIVELY because of bad Big Ten officiating in two games.
Not "exclusively" because of bad officiating. They won a number of games and played well in a number of games.

However assuming your goofy assumption that Ohio state was gifted a place in the playoffs, the gift turned out to be well deserved because in the playoffs Ohio state was clearly the best team at the end of the year. The standard for getting into the playoffs is to find the best 12 teams, not the 12 teams with the best records.

In any event, you can go about your griping and I can be very happy about Ohio state's national championship.
 
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Not "exclusively" because of bad officiating. They want a number of games and played well in a number of games.

However assuming your goofy assumption that Ohio state was gifted a place in the playoffs, the gift turned out to be well deserved because in the playoffs Ohio state was clearly the best team at the end of the year. The standard for getting into the playoffs is to find the best 12 teams, not the 12 teams with the best records.

In any event, you can go about your griping and I can be very happy about Ohio state's national championship.
And Ohio State winning a national title was great for all of the Big Ten
The insanity here is special
 
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Not "exclusively" because of bad officiating. They want a number of games and played well in a number of games.

However assuming your goofy assumption that Ohio state was gifted a place in the playoffs, the gift turned out to be well deserved because in the playoffs Ohio state was clearly the best team at the end of the year. The standard for getting into the playoffs is to find the best 12 teams, not the 12 teams with the best records.

In any event, you can go about your griping and I can be very happy about Ohio state's national championship.
Now you did it. Here comes another goofy rant from him/her. Those damn refs !!!!
 
Pretty sure PSU had more draftable players than ND, yet somehow we didn't win....

Ohio State beat PSU and Nebraska because of the refs. Anyone who disputes that won't be able to successfully defend the position. They are a fraudulent national champ. End of story.
Yikes. This is some delayed playoff depression coming out.
 
And Ohio State winning a national title was great for all of the Big Ten
The insanity here is special
I have followed OSU for over 50 years (class of 74). Yes, they did have 2 losses by a total of 4 points. The Michigan loss was inexcusable. That said, the 2024 team was as talented as any OSU team in decades. I would like to see PSU win the title in 2026. That would give the B1G 3 titles in a row by 3 different schools. ESPN and Finebaum would require counseling. Priceless.
 
They definitely deserve to be in the playoff and probably had the toughest road of any team in the playoff. Maybe they got lucky getting the home game against Tennessee, but they were easily the best team of the 12 and deserved to be the champs after going through the playoff.
Much like in the NCAA tournament, the best regular season team does not always win the championship. Look at all the times a number one seed has been knocked out by an eight or nine in the second round or by a four or five after that.
 
I have followed OSU for over 50 years (class of 74). Yes, they did have 2 losses by a total of 4 points. The Michigan loss was inexcusable. That said, the 2024 team was as talented as any OSU team in decades. I would like to see PSU win the title in 2026. That would give the B1G 3 titles in a row by 3 different schools. ESPN and Finebaum would require counseling. Priceless.
Hopefully some day more Penn State fans gets this
 
Here you have a team (Ohio State) that lost 2 games. One of those games was the worst loss by a national champion since (funny enough) Ohio State back in 1957, when they lost at home to a terrible TCU team.

Michigan was AWFUL. They didn't have Loveland. They didn't have Will Johnson. The only thing they had was a good DL. That was it. And Ohio State lost. At home.

They objectively DO NOT defeat Nebraska and Penn State fans without the refs. But Penn State fans will defend this as a legitimate national title, and call you a loser if you want better, fairer officiating.

Not only that, but some of you whackjobs will even try to say Ohio State was maybe the best team ever. Yes, Ohio State had a lot of NFL talent. No doubt. Did 1970 Nebraska lose to a team as bad as Michigan? Did 1993 FSU? Or, hell, 2002 Ohio State? What about 05 Texas? Or 21 Georgia? Name any team since 1957 and they didn't have a pathetic loss at HOME, a second loss, and two absolute ref gift "wins." Actually, besides the terrible loss to TCU, Hayes's 1957 squad was much better, much more deserving than this pile of crap.

But Penn State fans will defend them and say, hey, that might be the GOAT!

That, to me, is all the problems with PSU fans in a nutshell.
 
They definitely deserve to be in the playoff and probably had the toughest road of any team in the playoff. Maybe they got lucky getting the home game against Tennessee, but they were easily the best team of the 12 and deserved to be the champs after going through the playoff.
Much like in the NCAA tournament, the best regular season team does not always win the championship. Look at all the times a number one seed has been knocked out by an eight or nine in the second round or by a four or five after that.
To deserve is to have the qualities worthy of a certain reward. One does not deserve to compete for a national title if one loses at home to a GARBAGE team and needs blatantly wrong and ridiculous officiating to beat two other teams, one of whom lost 5 other games.
 
Here you have a team (Ohio State) that lost 2 games. One of those games was the worst loss by a national champion since (funny enough) Ohio State back in 1957, when they lost at home to a terrible TCU team.

Michigan was AWFUL. They didn't have Loveland. They didn't have Will Johnson. The only thing they had was a good DL. That was it. And Ohio State lost. At home.

They objectively DO NOT defeat Nebraska and Penn State fans without the refs. But Penn State fans will defend this as a legitimate national title, and call you a loser if you want better, fairer officiating.

Not only that, but some of you whackjobs will even try to say Ohio State was maybe the best team ever. Yes, Ohio State had a lot of NFL talent. No doubt. Did 1970 Nebraska lose to a team as bad as Michigan? Did 1993 FSU? Or, hell, 2002 Ohio State? What about 05 Texas? Or 21 Georgia? Name any team since 1957 and they didn't have a pathetic loss at HOME, a second loss, and two absolute ref gift "wins." Actually, besides the terrible loss to TCU, Hayes's 1957 squad was much better, much more deserving than this pile of crap.

But Penn State fans will defend them and say, hey, that might be the GOAT!

That, to me, is all the problems with PSU fans in a nutshell.
Certainly not the best every but definitely the best National Champion we've had in a long time.

Michigan wasn't awful, they beat Bama in a bowl game. It just turns out that the Big Ten was really good this year.

I'm not sure you could find a team in the recent past that beat the teams that OSU did in any given season. Of course they spent more than anyone else to do it, but that's the Ohio State way.
 
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Not only that, but some of you whackjobs will even try to say Ohio State was maybe the best team ever. Yes, Ohio State had a lot of NFL talent. No doubt. Did 1970 Nebraska lose to a team as bad as Michigan? Did 1993 FSU? Or, hell, 2002 Ohio State? What about 05 Texas? Or 21 Georgia? Name any team since 1957 and they didn't have a pathetic loss at HOME, a second loss, and two absolute ref gift "wins." Actually, besides the terrible loss to TCU, Hayes's 1957 squad was much better, much more deserving than this pile of crap.
Pot calling the kettle black
 
Certainly not the best every but definitely the best National Champion we've had in a long time.

Michigan wasn't awful, they beat Bama in a bowl game. It just turns out that the Big Ten was really good this year.

I'm not sure you could find a team in the recent past that beat the teams that OSU did in any given season. Of course they spent more than anyone else to do it, but that's the Ohio State way.
Ah, yes, the "Michigan beat Bama" card. Tell me, if Michigan was so good, why did they lose by double digits to Illinois? Why did they need a BS offsides call to beat Minnesota? Why did they lose easily to the Texas team that lost to Ohio State? Ditto Indiana

Alabama was a very one-dimensional team that played with extreme lethargy.

As for the "best National Champion we've had in a long time," what makes you say that? Do you really expect me to believe this was even better than the 19 Buckeyes? - that fumble overturn, against Clemson, was the only time I've seen Ohio State get hurt by the refs in a key game. I've seen nearly a dozen Ohio State teams back to 96 that were clearly better than this one.

Also, this was the first time that there was a 12 team playoff and thus so many games. So saying, oh wow, Ohio State beat so many good teams is a total farce considering no one else had the opportunity. But, for example, 2022 Georgia not only beat a bunch of great teams, but they beat an Ohio State team that was far and away better than this one!! 😂
 
Pot calling the kettle black
If you think that this Ohio State team was one of the best national champions ever, you are out of your mind.

Like I said, I can name several other OHIO STATE teams, besides every other great program over the years, that were far better than this one.

However, Ohio State does have a historical knack for losing when they have exceptionally great teams (like 2015 or 2019) and winning or, in this case, "winning" with way, way less good teams.

Know what else? 2024 Michigan wasn't their only bad game. That's the whole point. They had two other well-earned losses that were - poof! - turned into "wins" by the Big Ten Conference. The Penn State game would have been a sloppy, 3-1 turnover margin LOSS for the Buckeyes if not for clown nonsense like telling Tracy it's a penalty to stand up or overturning the ruling on the field with Judkins with no indisputable evidence. The Nebraska game featured 2 Ohio State drives extended by ticky tack officiating, extremely dubious replays, and standards for holding that were wildly one-sided. Igbinosun was getting beat all game by Nebraska's receivers (who were better than ours). How did he respond? By holding. What did the refs do? Call OPI on Nebraska. 🤣

But if you guys want to let the Kirk Herbstreit's and Paul Finebaum's of the world set your view of college football for you, go ahead, by all means.

If not for crooked officiating, Ohio State would have been the most talented failure in the history of college football.
 
Ah, yes, the "Michigan beat Bama" card. Tell me, if Michigan was so good, why did they lose by double digits to Illinois? Why did they need a BS offsides call to beat Minnesota? Why did they lose easily to the Texas team that lost to Ohio State? Ditto Indiana

Alabama was a very one-dimensional team that played with extreme lethargy.

As for the "best National Champion we've had in a long time," what makes you say that? Do you really expect me to believe this was even better than the 19 Buckeyes? - that fumble overturn, against Clemson, was the only time I've seen Ohio State get hurt by the refs in a key game. I've seen nearly a dozen Ohio State teams back to 96 that were clearly better than this one.

Also, this was the first time that there was a 12 team playoff and thus so many games. So saying, oh wow, Ohio State beat so many good teams is a total farce considering no one else had the opportunity. But, for example, 2022 Georgia not only beat a bunch of great teams, but they beat an Ohio State team that was far and away better than this one!! 😂
Oh my
 
Here you have a team (Ohio State) that lost 2 games. One of those games was the worst loss by a national champion since (funny enough) Ohio State back in 1957, when they lost at home to a terrible TCU team.

Michigan was AWFUL. They didn't have Loveland. They didn't have Will Johnson. The only thing they had was a good DL. That was it. And Ohio State lost. At home.

They objectively DO NOT defeat Nebraska and Penn State fans without the refs. But Penn State fans will defend this as a legitimate national title, and call you a loser if you want better, fairer officiating.

Not only that, but some of you whackjobs will even try to say Ohio State was maybe the best team ever. Yes, Ohio State had a lot of NFL talent. No doubt. Did 1970 Nebraska lose to a team as bad as Michigan? Did 1993 FSU? Or, hell, 2002 Ohio State? What about 05 Texas? Or 21 Georgia? Name any team since 1957 and they didn't have a pathetic loss at HOME, a second loss, and two absolute ref gift "wins." Actually, besides the terrible loss to TCU, Hayes's 1957 squad was much better, much more deserving than this pile of crap.

But Penn State fans will defend them and say, hey, that might be the GOAT!

That, to me, is all the problems with PSU fans in a nutshell.
Hysterically delusional
 
To deserve is to have the qualities worthy of a certain reward. One does not deserve to compete for a national title if one loses at home to a GARBAGE team and needs blatantly wrong and ridiculous officiating to beat two other teams, one of whom lost 5 other games.
Deserve isn't a measure used
ND lost to NIU lol
 
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If you think that this Ohio State team was one of the best national champions ever, you are out of your mind.

Like I said, I can name several other OHIO STATE teams, besides every other great program over the years, that were far better than this one.

However, Ohio State does have a historical knack for losing when they have exceptionally great teams (like 2015 or 2019) and winning or, in this case, "winning" with way, way less good teams.

Know what else? 2024 Michigan wasn't their only bad game. That's the whole point. They had two other well-earned losses that were - poof! - turned into "wins" by the Big Ten Conference. The Penn State game would have been a sloppy, 3-1 turnover margin LOSS for the Buckeyes if not for clown nonsense like telling Tracy it's a penalty to stand up or overturning the ruling on the field with Judkins with no indisputable evidence. The Nebraska game featured 2 Ohio State drives extended by ticky tack officiating, extremely dubious replays, and standards for holding that were wildly one-sided. Igbinosun was getting beat all game by Nebraska's receivers (who were better than ours). How did he respond? By holding. What did the refs do? Call OPI on Nebraska. 🤣

But if you guys want to let the Kirk Herbstreit's and Paul Finebaum's of the world set your view of college football for you, go ahead, by all means.

If not for crooked officiating, Ohio State would have been the most talented failure in the history of college football.
Lmao I love the insanity
 
The historical comparison for 2024 Ohio State is probably 1990 Colorado. Colorado had a legitimate claim to #1 - until you examine their season carefully. Colorado, like Ohio State, had two non-wins: a loss to Illinois and a tie with Tennessee. Colorado, like Ohio State, had two screwjob "wins": one was the notorious Fifth Down against Missouri, and the other was the infamous phantom clipping against ND in the Orange Bowl. For Ohio State, the two screwjob wins in 2024 were Penn State and especially Nebraska.

I'm not a Notre Dame fan, but Rocket Ismail giving Lou Holtz the thumbs up, then scoring what should have been the winning TD, is seriously some of the coolest s*** ever.

I've recounted the PSU game before, but, to repeat briefly: the ridiculous standing up wrong penalty against Zion Tracy was worth 7 points; the Judkins fumble overturn was worth 3 points and probably more since PSU would have had the ball at the OSU 43; and the egregious and uncalled DPI by Caleb Downs on Dinkins on 4th and goal cost us another 4 plays from the 1 (and, remember, if not for the Tracy penalty and the Judkins overturn, Penn State would have been leading the game, not trailing by 7).

But the Nebraska game was even more ridiculous. Matt Rhule spent the entire game shaking his head at the laughably one-sided standards for officiating in that game. Go watch it yourself if you don't believe me. Uncalled false starts, uncalled holds, uncalled DPIs, a debatably correct catch overturn, a "winning" INT for Ohio State set up by an uncalled PI, an infamous bad spot (off by over a yard and a half) that cost Nebraska at least 30 seconds and a timeout ... that game had everything imaginable to get Ohio State to the playoff.

So that's the 2024 Buckeyes. They were the best team out of the 12 in the playoff, but they didn't deserve to be one of those 12.

And the problem is that as long as fans continue to have this attitude of, well, it doesn't matter what the refs do, you need to find a way to win, Big Ten officiating will continue to decline and the great favorites - Ohio State and Michigan - will continue to the benefit of the detriment of the sport. And don't believe for one minute it's coincidence that Michigan beat Ohio State but Nebraska didn't. Nebraska's defense held Ohio State to even worse rushing numbers but Michigan's the only team that will, in the Big Ten, consistently get reasonably two-sided officiating against Ohio State.

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Did not waste my time reading this. You are bat spit crazy.
 
Okay, first of all, calling this the best ever is downright comical. I can name multiple Ohio State teams that were easily and obviously better off the top of my head: 1968, 1975, 1996, 1998, 2005, 2015, 2019, 2022. Not all of these won national titles, but none of them had the good fortune this Ohio State team had either.

The 2014 team was thoroughly unimpressive in its first 11 games but from the second half of the Michigan game on, they were probably the best an Ohio State team has performed possibly ever.

Anyway, way to miss the point, buddy, which is that Ohio State got a title shot EXCLUSIVELY because of bad Big Ten officiating in two games.

But, hey, as long as you continue to ascribe demanding fair officiating to loser mentality, this sport will continue to get worse and more blatantly unfair.
Nice list of very good Ohio teams. You missed the best of 'em all, however, 1973. That team didn't beat Michigan either. 2025? Some ex-players are calling this group the best ever. Hard, however, to pick a two-loss team as best ever. And, it's equally hard to ignore who Ohio beat in the playoffs. Bottom line: the Bucks are National Champions. If that bothers anyone, it's your problem.
 
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This post just reeks of insane jealousy. LSU's 2007 team lost 2 games and no one says they were fraudulent. They won it in the system that was in place. You also say 2001 Miami and 2019 LSU did not enjoy any favorable calls. Did you watch every game those teams played in? I suspect you didn't. Pull up all 22 film and let's see how many calls PSU got away with against OSU. PSU's db's don't clutch and grab, right?
 
Pretty sure PSU had more draftable players than ND, yet somehow we didn't win....

Ohio State beat PSU and Nebraska because of the refs. Anyone who disputes that won't be able to successfully defend the position. They are a fraudulent national champ. End of story.

I am thoroughly embarrassed for a firm chunk of our fan base. People like this have an unquenchable inferiority complex that makes us look absolutely ridiculous.

OSU just beat as many top-5 teams in 3 weeks as we have in the past 30 years.

This is where moderators do this entire fan base a favor and delete this thread. My God.
 
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This is the most ridiculous thread I’ve ever seen. For 35 years we have been subjected to the most BS “picking” of a Mythical National Champion. IMO, it made CFB look sillly.

We now have an actual playoff where a team beat the best of the best…..and is the First Actual Bonfide National Champion. I hate OSU but they won this on the field. Done. Bring on next year.
 
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