I know it’s been a few months but .....
..... is Micah still stuck on bottom underneath Nolf ??
OSU vs Wisconsin
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I don't think anyone in the country is going to put it on Pletcher pretty good.
Just stating the obvious, but it will be a 1 point match late. Which is right in Pletcher's wheelhouse. Very dangerous match for RBY.
Agreed. I think we underrate Pletcher a little bit over here. And I'm guessing its Buck season in Ohio or we'd be hearing about it. If RBY beats Pletcher I'd be very pleased. I'm not considering a major a possibility at this point. Pletcher and Suriano remain really hard to score on. I'm hoping RBY can pick off a takedown or two with some sick quickness. Anything beyond that and I think the comparisons to our recent great ones (as freshman) may be legit.
An away match for a true freshman in a hostile environment, against a top-5 opponent. Might be tougher for RBY to win at Ohio State than in Pittsburgh against Pletcher.
For what it is worth., Pletcher has given up bonus points in only 2 of his 83 matches. Once to Ashnault at 141 as a true frosh and the other to Tariq Wilson in the 3rd place match at NCAAs last year, which would not have been a bonus but for Pletcher trying a desperation throw at the end. Pletcher is really good. I'm looking forward to seeing how RBY does at the Scuffle which should have Daton Fix plus #9 Parker (if healthy), #11 Gomez, #14 Myers, and #20 Nickell.
Lofty thoughts! I’m not there yet. It’s not like he’s wrestled top talent to date to evaluate.
there was a quick "blurt" today on FRL that Ok State might be sending "its starters" to Reno instead of the scuffle.
These days it seems, each of these tournaments is a wait and see who shows up.
Yeah, I have no doubt that Pletcher knows how to win. In all situations, bright lights or not.
Hoping that RBY will have that right off the bat, but have to remember he is a true frosh. True freshman seasons even guys like Bo, DT and even Zain had an issue or two in some tight matches. Definite edge to Pletcher in that category until I see evidence offered by RBY. Not his fault he hasn't been in that situation, but the fact remains is that it is an unknown at this time.
Interesting. Looked at their schedule, both are listed. Starters went unattached to the OCU Open, so it appears OSU can go to both and stay at 16 competition dates. Two tournaments, 12 days apart, is probably too much, when keeping an eye on the prize. As you say, wait and see.
Agree, Nolf vs Imar, Zain vs Stieber, Bo at the Scuffle ... those were the 'ah ha' moments when we knew they were going to be something special.
As impressive as RBY has been, we need to see him against an AA level wrestler.
The first in the Cael era was Ed against Lewnes. Guy hadn’t given up a takedown all year - the Truth just casually takes him down and proceeds to dominate
Ed was a redshirt freshman when that occurred. So, a little different than RBY.
There is an interview on Flo where he talks about last year. Said it wasn't an issue with cutting weight but nerve issues with his elbows that he said are better now. TFWIW
I would focus less on what the numbers and stats tell you and more on the eye test. He definitely looks substantially better than he did at any point last year. Nickal matches (likely three of them) will be epic.
Interesting, yep. Epic, probably not so much.
I hope Moore comes out to wrestle, it is always fun to watch someone try to wrestle Bo.
I'd upgraded my seating in Philly for that session. I ended up in a Cornell section. It's the little things in life. Those simple pleasures. That stay with you forever
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Not so much numbers and stats.
Results.
His results this year are the same as last year. He's beating the same guys by the same margins.
If you're seeing something different with your eye test, maybe it's because you can read between the lines. More likely, it's because you're seeing what you want to see rather than what is actually there.
(None of which is meant to suggest that I'm not looking forward to the matchups with Bo)
First, I am a die hard PSU fan and long time season ticket holder (well before Cael). Second, I watch a ton of wrestling.
Going back through my notes from the matches I have watched this year versus last, I have watched Moore wrestle four times this year and watched him wrestle 14 times last year. He has looked better in EACH of his matches this year than he did in ANY of his matches last year. He is the same stud he was as a freshman.
I expect Bo to win, but I do expect them to be great matches.
I thought the issue last year was his nerves period. I believe he said he did not handle well the pressure of being #1 most of the season.
The original poster had it right... although he went undefeated up until wrestling Cassar, Kollin just seemed off to anyone familiar with his relentless pace and style he burst onto the scene with the year before as a redshirt freshman.
Kollin dealt with nerve damage in both his elbows which prohibited his ability to pull and squeeze with the strength and tenacity he was able to do the year prior.
Because of his injuries, he didn’t practice as much, nor as hard due to the injuries and the limitations they put on him physically.
This led to him taking fewer shots in practice, which resulted in fewer shots in matches.
Anyone familiar with Kollin knows his pace requires him to shoot 5+ times a period... he actually says he sets a match’s # of shots he wants to take at 20 and wants to finish 10... but the Buckeye fans who watched Kollin last year screamed at the TV constantly for him to shoot and wondered how/why he was going entire periods without shooting...competely unlike him.
Track wrestling just did a great interview with Kollin explaining it all himself. To read the article, you have to watch a 15 second video/ad promo first.
http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/PortalPost.jsp?postId=832941132
Kollin dealt with nerve damage in both his elbows which prohibited his ability to pull and squeeze with the strength and tenacity he was able to do the year prior.
Because of his injuries, he didn’t practice as much, nor as hard due to the injuries and the limitations they put on him physically.
This led to him taking fewer shots in practice, which resulted in fewer shots in matches.
Anyone familiar with Kollin knows his pace requires him to shoot 5+ times a period... he actually says he sets a match’s # of shots he wants to take at 20 and wants to finish 10... but the Buckeye fans who watched Kollin last year screamed at the TV constantly for him to shoot and wondered how/why he was going entire periods without shooting...competely unlike him.
Track wrestling just did a great interview with Kollin explaining it all himself. To read the article, you have to watch a 15 second video/ad promo first.
http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/PortalPost.jsp?postId=832941132
It is more of an eyeball test. He definitely looks gassed and weaker last year. Not so much this year and not at all his freshman year. JMHO
Okie St wants no part of PSU’s starters! It’s Cael’s best squad and most studs will avoid them this year until March.
Yep. Why take individual losses potentially impacting seeding if you don’t have to. These coaches are all maneuvering for best placement come tournament time. Duals and holiday tournaments are just “workouts”, practice, and trying to get your wrestlers to peak in March. Why batter them with 30+ matches before NCAA’s if you don’t have to? Same with epic individual matchups. Can’t blame them. It’s the system. It’s not ducking it’s managing your roster to peak performance when it counts.So the whole team is ducking us?
From my understanding these 2 are good friends and have trained together a bunch. RBY even spent a summer staying with Austin and his family to train freestyle. I would venture to guess this match would be really close due to familiarity.
.losing to a guy ranked ahead of you typically doesn’t affect your seed when the seeding actually happens. They would mostly be worried about wrestling Brady and RBY to have that worry.
Unless they are worried about wrestlers seeds they won’t face later. Waaaay too much thinking, in my view.
I will say the philosophy of going out to try new things or work on what you need to during the matches and not worry if you loose seems to be paying off. Even against a better wrestler at the time (Imar). They learn thru failing during the regular season. Cael's guys seem very comfortable in most all mat situations and don't get panicky in pressure moments under the big lights.
I think it was Nomad this week on FRL who referenced that our staff have "figured something out" with respect to peaking, avoiding burnout, whatever, and that other programs are still in the lurch trying to catch up. This is #captainobvious if you've been following this team at all in the last 9 years, but it was nice to get some "media' acknowledgement there. I obviously have no idea about how our team handles workouts and recovery (nor would I spill any beans if I did)--but Cael has been surprisingly forthcoming about one key ingredient: attitude. It's not just coach speak or a platitude.
I don't care what other people say (i.e. boards, media) - just win baby! Seriously, can't control it so why bother worrying about what is being said. PSU can take care of it themselves - that is why I'm a PSU fan.
Well said. Do you think VJ is better or worse for having lost to Marinelli last season? I say better.
If 1 > 5 when it comes to wrestling, then I would agree that VJ is better the Bull.
However, cyberspace has a way of bending that reality. So avoid black(andgold)holes if not properly equipped to deal with the space time continuum.
He certainly learned something. I would say better and way better that he learned during the season and not at the big dance.
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