OT Any career suggestions for 20 yr. old marketing major who speaks Chinese and will probably get Italian dual citizenship in a couple of months.
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Son-in-law just left FBI for private industry. It has its positives and negatives, as with all government positions.
On the positive side, the cybersecurity career field will set him up for quite a future. Can also carry a gun anywhere, if that's enticing, including airplanes. FBI agents who fly for any reason are automatically roped into being the air marshal on that flight. And any retired FBI agent can carry for life in any state. And you can retire in your mid-40s.
Good duty at a Field Office might include the SWAT team. Bad duty at a Field Office might include doing background investigations for people getting security clearances. Both jobs need to be done. On any given day, you can be issued the orange vest and be part of an arrest warrant team for a dangerous suspect. You must be prepared to take a human life.
Salary tops out around $150K unless you get on the executive track, which get's closer to $180K.
I'm not sure how to DM on this site, I think you might need to be a paid member for that function (I'm not). I've found a very helpful Facebook group that has tons of info on how to go through this process so I don't have specific questions, I was more curious if you had any general pointers.
Unfortunately the Houston consulate isn't even scheduling appointments due to COVID, it's been many months since they have even allowed it. In the meantime I've started going through the process of document collection. The first thing I did was to initiate the ancestor naturalization search with US Immigration since that takes a ton of time. I've been waiting on that for 6 months and counting. I'm fortunate that most of the other documents I need are all from PA, except for the info about my Italian born ancestor. I was planning to order them directly by letter to save on cost (vs. using Vitalchek online services). Getting marriage info from the counties will probably be more tedious since those aren't all in the same place. If you also had to work with PA and have pointers that would be helpful.
Did you hire someone to obtain your Italian documents? The group I mentioned has templates in Italian and detailed instructions for trying to obtain the Italian documents yourself. It seems some towns in Italy respond well to that, while others don't respond at all. I was considering trying it myself first before paying someone. That group also has a lot of service provider recommendations and I already have a highly rated one in mind should I decide to hire them. I'll likely only use them for Italian documents and I plan to do the rest myself unless I run into complications with what information appears on the documents I can obtain.
"The first thing I did was to initiate the ancestor naturalization search with US Immigration since that takes a ton of time. I've been waiting on that for 6 months and counting."
Get a subscription to ancestry.com. First month or so is free. After that about $20 per mo. Great for birth and death certificates, census records, naturalization records. A real bargain for someone in our position. Should be much, much faster.
Here is the citizenship application link for the Philadelphia consulate. https://consfiladelfia.esteri.it/consolato_filadelfia/en/i_servizi/per_i_cittadini/cittadinanza
Also, step by step consulate guide as to whether you are eligible. https://consdetroit.esteri.it/conso...ni/cittadinanza/eligibility-verification.html
If you scroll through the right links, it will tell you what documents you need.
Good luck and if you need more help, don't hesitate to ask.
Get a subscription to ancestry.com. First month or so is free. After that about $20 per mo. Great for birth and death certificates, census records, naturalization records. A real bargain for someone in our position. Should be much, much faster.
Yes. When I did it about 7 years ago, it was $60 or $80. This is what I used and it was very good. However, now it costs $200. https://www.myitalianfamily.com/ Almost certainly worth the $200 although there are probably others less expensive. Would suggest going to https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/italiancitizenship/documents-f6/ and checking out who others have used. You can also ask questions. Additionally, this website is excellent for virtually every type of issue that may arise.
Before hiring someone, I would try to get some basic documents first. Such as the certified Italian birth certificate of the Italian who came to the US. In my view no sense paying them (probably) to tell you to get docs. If they are reasonable, may make sense to get them now. I would again suggest going to Tapatalk and asking your question.
Here is the citizenship application link for the Philadelphia consulate. https://consfiladelfia.esteri.it/consolato_filadelfia/en/i_servizi/per_i_cittadini/cittadinanza
Also, step by step consulate guide as to whether you are eligible. https://consdetroit.esteri.it/conso...ni/cittadinanza/eligibility-verification.html
If you scroll through the right links, it will tell you what documents you need.
Good luck and if you need more help, don't hesitate to ask.
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Already done and captured what I could. It was helpful to get some names, dates, and locations which I'll need when requesting the official documents. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find the critical immigration c-file # or an official naturalization document or official date, hence the need for the USCIS search before I can even request the actual document. I was able to find some immigration paperwork with dates that indicate I should be eligible though, so at least I know I'm not completing the process for nothing.
Thanks for the link, I haven't used that site before. Fortunately I only need one document from Italy, a birth certificate. I got a quote for about $120 from a highly rated service from a citizenship Facebook group so that's my plan B if trying to get it myself doesn't work out.
I'm confident I'm eligible based on the research I've done. My great grandfather was born in Italy and my grandfather was born in the USA before my great grandfather naturalized. Nobody since would have renounced their right to Italian citizenship and my path is all male which makes it a bit easier, no marriages needed as proof of lineage but of course those marriage documents are still required to complete the process.
I live in Texas so I have to deal with the Houston consulate. My question about PA documents was more about obtaining birth, death and marriage docs from PA which is where the vast majority of the key family milestones took place. I have a pretty good handle on most of it, I just haven't requested them from the state yet. Marriage docs being with the counties is more tricky since they aren't in a centralized place and there's one in my lineage in particular that will be hard to track down. My family is the product of my great grandfather's 2nd marriage, and my living relatives know little about when and where his first marriage took place. This is likely to be the hardest thing for me to find since I don't know the county where they were married and couldn't find any clues on Ancestry.com.
Tried to do an ancestry.com search for my grandfather who's Italian name begins with Di and a space. It wasn't very good and didn't show up what it should have. It previously had done well in finding census records and my parents records.
In terms of naturalization records, before 1975 many were handled by either state or federal district courts. If you have a good idea where your great grandfather was when he was naturalized, you may be able to save a good bit of time by checking the county common pleas court's records with the clerk of courts and also checking the federal district courts records with its clerk of courts. All of my grandfather's records were easily accessible through Ohio's common pleas Court, and the clerk's office was very cooperative in providing me with certified records.
You could check with your Facebook group, genealogical groups or Italian citizenship websites to get clues where to start. Personally, I would prefer to get a jump on whenever the federal government may or may not get back to me with the naturalization documents. Good luck in your efforts.
Got bad news about my application which was submitted in mid-September (after an 18 month wait to permit me to submit). It takes an additional year or two to process the application after submission. (Amazing to me since this is mainly a clerical task) In any event, my advice to you would be to try to get your work done and get in line for an appointment as soon as possible because it seems like it is a 3 or 4 year process.
Peace Corps, grad school (?), then pursue unlimited opportunities within either government service or private sector. That he's asking indicates indecision. Buy time. The future remains intercultural and multinational. Opportunities are nearly limitless.
Get a Finance degree and run the Business rather than trying to advertise for the Business.....
Sorry to hear that but yeah I'm expecting it to take years. The Houston consulate still isn't even taking appointments. I'm also hearing that many consulates are changing or have changed to some new system recently, but I haven't researched the impact of this change yet. I'm just going about collecting documents and will try to get an appointment scheduled whenever Houston decides to open up again.
