Well, I wasn't discussing that point at all. But personally, I think Jordan is toast--just like Al Franken was--whether he did anything wrong at all or not and fair or not.Probably so, but I would suppose you would agree that the media is not the proper guardian for us regarding what is important--that it is up to each of us to decide that for ourselves. Meanwhile, can you think of any reason why the OSU coach would appear on a videotape saying that he was worried about the mental state of his wrestlers because of how sexualized the wrestling facility was, if it were NOT true?
As far as Hellickson's comments--I'd prefer to see them in context. The specific quotes you bolded above (I do not care to repeat them) do not seem to be specifically aimed at that doctor. Could have easily been wrestlers and could have been straight stuff too--or other students. As I recall, tOSU had a lot of the team and student facilities together at one point in Larkins Hall back in the day--but it's been a long time since I've been on campus near those facilities. Now they all are separate after Geiger went on his building kick and Larkins is a completely new building. Then? Not so much--I recall going down there for a gymnastics meet once--held in a little side gym (as opposed to St John Arena). Soccer was played on a grass field behind the tennis courts--which everyone used. Different times.