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OT: What are your favorite White and Red Wines?

Jerademan74

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There is currently a long thread on Yuengling vs. Sam Adams beers. Admittedly, I am a beer guy since my college days. Now that I am maturing at a ripe old age of 62, I am starting to lean more towards wines. I even have a wine refrigerator in my house that I admittedly haven't used as much as I would like. I like more of a fruity semi-sweet taste in wines, but am open to suggestions to try!
 
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Depends on the price and what you're looking for...

I'm not a white wine drinker, but on the rare occasion in the summer, we have some good Savignon Blanc's and Pinot Grigios from wineries here in Virginia - particularly Barboursville and Veritas. All are under $20. Best white I've had though was a Chardonney from Alpha Omega in Napa.

I'll opt for beer over white wine though.

Favorite reds - probably too many to count. If you're looking for >$40 or so there will be plenty to choose from. Del Dotto Merlot, Cliffe Lede Cab Sav and Lancaster Cab Sav are probably my favorites, but hard to get outside of California. I just had a cabernet from Burgess Cellars at a steak dinner last month that was incredible. Retails for $46 and can available in most wine stores.

If you're looking for good reds
 
It's like any other drink.......it's a matter of personal taste. We have

a number of good wine stores around here that always have the Wine Spectator or Enthusiast ratings.....and that's a good place to start if you're not familiar with a particular wine. I always try to find value within those ratings. Once you find a few you like, key in what about that wine you really enjoy......whether it's notes of vanilla, cherry, chocolate, etc. Then you can seek out wines that have similar characteristics or are from the same region. If you want specific recommendations, I love Caymus, Beaulieu Vinyards, Stags Leap, Heitz......but those I don't drink very often because of the price. There are tons of highly rated (88-92) wines you can find for $10-$20. Malbecs are a cheaper alternative to Cabs.
 
I'[ve done the Virginia winery run several times.....love Veritas. There

are some wineries that have absolutely georgeous scenery.....like Trump.
 
Brand is not important. Buy a bottle, start with reasonably priced. If you like it keep on your list. Buy a different bottle, etc.
 
Best scenery is probably King Family outside of Crozet...

it's a little on the newer side, but my wife and I head down to Charlottesville a couple times a year and don't miss King Family. They have polo matches during the summer on Sunday afternoons and generally speaking, the setting is absolutely phenomenal.

I haven't been to Trump since it changed ownership from Kluge, but really liked it there. We actually almost got married there - narrowed it down to there and King Family if we were going to do Charlottesville, but opted for my wife's home town in VaBeach.
 
Two books I recommend .........

The Wine Bible by Karen McNeil ..... and ..... What to Drink with What You Eat by Andrew Dornenburg and Karen Page.

Also, hit some local wine tasting classes in your area to get exposed to different varietals.
 
Silver Oak cab sav...

Red wine and a medium rare steak is about the greatest meal ever. I'm partial to cabs and Silver Oak is at the top, followed closely by Lancaster and Cliff Lede and Del Dotto.

Virginia has really good cab francs at reasonable prices from Jefferson, Barborville and Veritas.

I'm not a huge white wine fan but there's a winery in Napa called Alpha Omega with a great chardonnay.
 
Re: Silver Oak cab sav...

Love Silver Oak. I've been told, but haven't verified, that a wine named "Twenty Bench" is Silver Oak. I've had Twenty Bench and it is a great cab.

A wine snob told me that there is only so much market for $125 bottles of Silver Oak and that the winery has excess capacity. So, they bottle a wine (with a little less quality control) named Twenty Bench at ~ $20/bottle to exploit a different market and not compromise the Silver Oak brand.

Again, I have no idea but I can certainly understand that this happens all the time with high end brands. In any case, if you haven't tried Twenty Bench, give it a shot.
 
Old World vs. New World

Give me old world wine every time. It's more balanced (fruit, tannin, acidity) and pairs much better with food. Which after all is the purpose of wine.

Lately though I've become more of a Burgundy fan, both white and red. 2012 was a great vintage and you can find some really nice wine in the $20-25 range.
 
In Northern VA try Delaplane, Bluemont, and Stonetower for scenery.

For wine LInden, Fabbioli and Delaplane.
 
Favorite expensive wine is Gattinara (red)......sells for about $32.

I live in PA but when I visit my daughter in Boston, I shop at Trader Joe's and my favorite is Grifone Sangiovese which sells for about $4.50. I find this to be a very good wine for the price.

My wife's favorite is Geyser Peak Savignon Blanc She also likes Pinot Grigio's.

I also like Chianti's
 
Pinot Noir. MarkWest is a good one, also Mezzacorona.

I am not much of a wine guy, but those are some good grocery store wines.:)
 
I gravitate to Pinot Noir usually as well. Good for most any occasion.*

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I drink only blue and white wines.

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I may just try some of that. It looks like something my wife would like.
 
I drank wine before I matured into a craft beer drinker


All that other stuff is just adjunct filled swill.
 
Originally posted by Jerademan74:
There is currently a long thread on Yuengling vs. Sam Adams beers. Admittedly, I am a beer guy since my college days. Now that I am maturing at a ripe old age of 62, I am starting to lean more towards wines. I even have a wine refrigerator in my house that I admittedly haven't used as much as I would like. I like more of a fruity semi-sweet taste in wines, but am open to suggestions to try!
I tend to go for more of the dry wines and on the cheaper end. I actually like Yellow Tail and Barefoot Savignon Blanc. New Zealand and Chile make some really good ones and at decent prices. I think my favorite is the Boatshed Bay Savignon Blanc.

As for reds and its been mentioned below Pinot Noir's are always good. Last Sat. I grilled steaks and had a bottle of George Debeuf's Beaujolais and it was excellent. ok I had 2 bottles. LOL.
 
Red Reasonable: Mondavi Pinot Noir
Red Hideously expensive: Joseph Phelps Insignia (had one a month ago...unbelievably smooth)
In general I like a Syrah or Merlot as well, and the blends, like Black Opal

Not a big fan of white so probably a Riesling.
 
fortunately, many of us live in Pa, and the PLCB is the single largest purchaser of wines in the world. Their Chairman's Select program affords many great options at deep discounts. My local store, Wyomissing, has a wine expert who sends out weekly email flyers of what has been received with the list price and discounted price so you can review along with tasting notes.

we currently are drinking a wide variety of wines from:

Peju
Heitz
DuckHorn
Silver Oak
Catena
BV
Hall
the Sophia Rose
among other selections.

Love wine, love beer, don't drink nearly as much as I used too. Have also developed a liking for tasting tequilas.
 
Brands or varietals?

I love old world wines from the classic wine producing regions - Bordeaux, Brouilly, Burgundy, Champagne, and Rhone Valley in France; Rioja in Spain; Moselle Valley in Germany; Tuscany in Italy. I'm mostly a red wine drinker and like bigger, bolder flavors typical of Bordeaux grapes - Cabernet Sauvignon, Cabernet Franc, Merlot, Malbec, and Petit Verdot. For whites I like more Italian dry wines (Pinot Grigio) or frutier French wines (Chablis).

New world stuff is fun to try too and there is some great stuff out there - Chile and Argentina do some great stuff with Italian grapes (Bonardo), and American wines keep getting better. Outside of California, Oregon, and Washington; Virginia (great soil for Cab Franc and Petit Verdot), New York, Ohio, Texas, Kentucky, and New Jersey are starting to take wine making seriously. I can't vouch for others listed, but I belong to two wineries in Virginia and have enjoyed learning about less well known, but more accessible local varietals (Seyval Blanc, Norton, etc.).

One of the best things about wine is learning, and tasting, new things, and understanding a bit about how it's made, and how soil, water, and sun can effect and change things. I would recommend taking a 'beginner's course' in wine tasting - not to be a snob or anything, but so you can appreciate some of the details of wine tasting - the nose, the finish, the acidity, sugar content, etc., and coming up with your own tasting notes.

To get started with your preferences, I'd say look for Pinot Noir, Brouilly, or Beaujolais. If you want a bit heavier, but still sweet, look for port style wines. They're typically sold as 'desert' wines.
 
Chateau Montelena and Stag's Leap also make awesome Cab Sav...

And I would recommend any fan of wine, or the birth of wine in America, see the movie Bottle Shock. It's really about the birth of wine in California and the legitimization of America as a wine making country. And Alan Rickman is hilarious in it; he plays the British wine enthusiast who arranges for an international blind wine tasting competition between America and France. His visit to Napa Valley, where he tries the wines (and instead of cheese pairings, he's offered chips and guacamole), is hysterical.

This post was edited on 4/8 3:36 PM by Midnighter
 
Every wine has its place

It all depends what you are eating. Try to pair the wine with the food to maximize the enjoyment of both. A light fruity white might be fine alone for an afternoon refreshment, but that same wine will never hold up to a steak dinner. So first decide what you like to eat, and then zero in on a wine to have with your meal. And don't worry about whether it's red, white, etc. Just drink what you like which compliments your food.
 
Other excellent VA wineries....

Barrel Oak, Tarara, Greenhill, Northgate, and Breaux (from the Middleburg American Vinticultural Area). Tarara's winemaker, Jordan Harris, was named one of the top '40 under 40' winemakers in America. And Greenhill's Bordeaux-style blend, Philosophy 2012, was just awarded a gold medal in California wine critic Robert Whitley's annual international winemakers challenge.

Full disclosure: I belong to both Tarara and Greenhill wineries :).
This post was edited on 4/8 2:23 PM by Midnighter
 
Re: Brands or varietals?

Midnighter: Thanks for these helpful facts. Aside from pairing the right wine with the right meal, what wines are best for just non-meal relaxing enjoyment? My wife and I both like Reislings, but have yet to find a red that doesn't require food to pair with and can be enjoyable on it's own. Any suggestions here? I also find that a get a headache from reds, probably from the tannins.
This post was edited on 4/8 2:24 PM by Jerademan74
 
Wine and food were meant for each other....

But, I drink reds and whites all the time without food. Even with food, I mostly drink what I like - not what people tell me pairs well. Having said that, bold flavors do better with bold wines; which is why everyone used to say - red wine with red meat, white wine with fish and poultry. Point being - find what you like and try things out. I will add that a big red with a bar of solid chocolate will change your life :).

My go to solo reds are Cab Sav, Cab Franc, Bordeaux blends, Chianti, Malbec and Carmenere. But, I love wine, so I'm usually fine with drinking anything on it's own. I'd say go with a Cab Franc if you can find one (big wine wholesalers usually have them; grocery stores less so unless it's a Whole Foods or something), or maybe a Brouilly if you want lighter and fruitier. I'll add that decanting wine will sometimes take the edge off of them a bit, so do that and let the wine breathe for a few minutes before enjoying it. You can get a good wine decanter (one with a large round bottom that allows for maximum exposure to oxygen) pretty cheap nearly anywhere.

Also, when going to a store or restaurant, don't be afraid to ask someone for a recommendation based on your preferences - they're happy to help. Enjoy!
 
I've indulged in those on occasion. How about this one though:

American Classic. Knock your socks off. A tad sweet for some. Cigarettes - de rigeur.

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Saraceni Pinot Grigio. I had it three weeks ago in Tuscany and

thoroughly enjoyed it. We had a case sent to us.
 
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