Wow. Some people are too stupid for words. I hope that golf club gets spanked hard for this stupidity. Nice to see the co-owners wife had enough sense to try and fix it.
I hate slow groups more than anyone...but to call law enforcement? Straight up racism right here in PA.
The worst is playing behind slow hackers who actually plumb-bob their putter on the green as if that will helpA woman 5-some? Normally I'd say that is right up my alley, but on the golf course that is a No-No!
The worst is playing behind slow hackers who actually plumb-bob their putter on the green as if that will help
The worst is playing behind slow hackers who actually plumb-bob their putter on the green as if that will help
If you'd fall asleep they'd have each other to talk to.A woman 5-some? Normally I'd say that is right up my alley
Everything is racism. Whenever you want to play the race card, the media outlets are more than happy to oblige. I was turned away from using the Men's Room at a McDonalds by a Black Male employee because I did not have a receipt. Is the racism reversed, "No" But, let the tables be turned, and the "R Card" gets beaten to death! Do you think any media outlet would want to interview me and get my story? "Hell No" because it Does Not Fit Their Narrative. No one knows what really went on at this gold club, so don't immediately start the Racism Blame Game!
Everything is racism. Whenever you want to play the race card, the media outlets are more than happy to oblige. I was turned away from using the Men's Room at a McDonalds by a Black Male employee because I did not have a receipt. Is the racism reversed, "No" But, let the tables be turned, and the "R Card" gets beaten to death! Do you think any media outlet would want to interview me and get my story? "Hell No" because it Does Not Fit Their Narrative. No one knows what really went on at this gold club, so don't immediately start the Racism Blame Game!
Everything is racism. Whenever you want to play the race card, the media outlets are more than happy to oblige. I was turned away from using the Men's Room at a McDonalds by a Black Male employee because I did not have a receipt. Is the racism reversed, "No" But, let the tables be turned, and the "R Card" gets beaten to death! Do you think any media outlet would want to interview me and get my story? "Hell No" because it Does Not Fit Their Narrative. No one knows what really went on at this gold club, so don't immediately start the Racism Blame Game!
The women — who are all members at the golf club — were told they were not keeping the pace of play on just the second hole by former York County Commissioner Steve Chronister, who claimed to be the owner of the club. They claimed they were keeping pace with the group ahead of them, and talked with the golf pro at the course after Chronister confronted the group. They claimed the golf pro said they were fine.
Everything is racism. Whenever you want to play the race card, the media outlets are more than happy to oblige. I was turned away from using the Men's Room at a McDonalds by a Black Male employee because I did not have a receipt. Is the racism reversed, "No" But, let the tables be turned, and the "R Card" gets beaten to death! Do you think any media outlet would want to interview me and get my story? "Hell No" because it Does Not Fit Their Narrative. No one knows what really went on at this gold club, so don't immediately start the Racism Blame Game!
There are a few things in the article that don't quite add up. "They claimed they were keeping pace with the group ahead of them."
After they were confronted on the second hole, the women said they skipped the third hole to avoid any other issues.
If they were keeping up with the group ahead of them, there would have been no need to skip the 3rd hole. It may have been that they skipped the hole because they were at least one hole behind the group in front of them. The owner stated that the group skipped more than one hole, which indicates that the group may have been the problem.
In this instance, the members refused to leave so we called police to ensure an amicable result. The members did skip holes and took an extended break after the 9th hole. We spoke with them once about pace of play and then spoke with them a second time. During the second conversation we asked members to leave as per our policy noted on the scorecard, voices escalated, and police were called to ensure an amicable resolution.
None of us know why they were asked to leave, and if it was because they were black then it was a racist action. However, if it was because they were holding up the golf course and refused to pick up the pace of play after being confronted, then race is not an issue.
Oh, you poor baby. It must be so hard on you to hear about all these stories of racism. You must feel so oppressed.
Is your expose' on PA racism now a twice daily feature on this board? Sort of repetitive and boring if you ask me.
There are a few things in the article that don't quite add up. "They claimed they were keeping pace with the group ahead of them."
After they were confronted on the second hole, the women said they skipped the third hole to avoid any other issues.
If they were keeping up with the group ahead of them, there would have been no need to skip the 3rd hole. It may have been that they skipped the hole because they were at least one hole behind the group in front of them. The owner stated that the group skipped more than one hole, which indicates that the group may have been the problem.
In this instance, the members refused to leave so we called police to ensure an amicable result. The members did skip holes and took an extended break after the 9th hole. We spoke with them once about pace of play and then spoke with them a second time. During the second conversation we asked members to leave as per our policy noted on the scorecard, voices escalated, and police were called to ensure an amicable resolution.
None of us know why they were asked to leave, and if it was because they were black then it was a racist action. However, if it was because they were holding up the golf course and refused to pick up the pace of play after being confronted, then race is not an issue.
oh thank God someone white-splained this for us. THANKS!
I can tell you I've golfed with a bunch of guys that would simply have hit balls into the group. To me, its golf, entertainment...enjoy yourself.
- I don't know of any golf course that allows 5-somes.
- A conversation, initiated by the owner, should have been in order. The article doesn't address what happened before the police were called.
- Did a conversation happen or not? If there was a decent conversation and the 5-some refused, I've got no problem.
- If the owner just called the police because there was a 5-some then I agree, racism.
Is your expose' on PA racism now a twice daily feature on this board? Sort of repetitive and boring if you ask me.
- I don't know of any golf course that allows 5-somes. I have. And in this case, they were given the OK.
- A conversation, initiated by the owner, should have been in order. The article doesn't address what happened before the police were called. It appears that they spoke to the ranger before the owner's father - local politico - got involved.
- Did a conversation happen or not? If there was a decent conversation and the 5-some refused, I've got no problem. Three players left after the 9 holes, and then they were met with the owner and others again after the turn - for being slow.
- If the owner just called the police because there was a 5-some then I agree, racism. No - just because they played slow.
But, they were keeping up with the group in front of them. No where in the story does it say anything about them and if anyone spoke to them also for playing slow. Only the 5 women.
I can tell you I've golfed with a bunch of guys that would simply have hit balls into the group. Into a bunch of women who are being held up because of the group in front of them? To me, its golf, entertainment...enjoy yourself. I am guessing it was for them also, until the owner's father showed up. And ruined it.
Really, on the five-some? Especially for a CC, that assumes higher level golfers. Perhaps at the local cow pasture where they encrouage you to play without a shirt and shoes and try to get 11 year olds out there. But I can tell you, as a not-very-good-golfer, every place I've ever played the group behind a 5-some would be outraged. I do agree, it was the second hole, how could that be that far behind?
Having said that, it could clearly be racism...or sexism (or both). But I feel like the article was written in order to make the reader mad.
So, not disagreeing with anything you say and am pretty sure an element of "-ism" is involved. My only disagreement is the 5-some. Honestly, if it was me behind that 5-some and I was waiting, I'd march right back to the clubhouse and get my money back. (and were was the starter?)
Ding ding ding. I copied the following to my desktop before reaching your post:"police were called to ensure an amicable resolution.”
only a white person of privilege would say this
even if it wasn't racism, talk about building an easy case against yourself!I hate slow groups more than anyone...but to call law enforcement? Straight up racism right here in PA.
Oh, you poor baby. It must be so hard on you to hear about all these stories of racism. You must feel so oppressed.