Parks Miller Presser
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I have no idea but nothing would surprise me.
I'm continually amazed at the statements made by Parks Miller, Piazza's family and some others on both sides of the equation.
Why would it be difficult to authenticate a video recording? It should be very easy.
Unless you are trying to imply the DA has access to better CGI than Lucasfilm?
...it wouldn't. You're missing the point--I said nothing would surprise me and that I'm amazed at statements made by all sides in this case. It's been interesting to follow.
Authenticate is an evidentiary term of art. Typically a witness would say I have seen the tape and it accurately depicts the events of that evening. Who would that be here? Thoughts
Did not read all the posts, SIA mentioned, but the FBI recovered the deleted video, and the claim is that the additional evidence is very damning. (scrolled back, and this link appears to have some additional info to bwifans link )
http://fox6now.com/2017/11/13/10-mo...ty-house-death-after-deleted-video-recovered/
http://fox6now.com/2017/11/13/10-mo...ty-house-death-after-deleted-video-recovered/
Exactly right. So she presumably would like the jury or judge to see it. It first has to be authenticated. She can't just walk into court and play footage.
I would think that when they got a search warrant for the house following the death that a police officer seized the video recording systems - or at least whatever memory unit or hard drive is that's connected to the video recording system. At that point, they passed the hard drive along to the FBI for retrieval. It might need to be a two-stage authentication - first with the police officer who seized the hard drive from the video system at the house, and then by the FBI agent who actually oversaw the memory retrieval. But if they're able to do that with no chain of custody issues or anything odd like that, I don't think it would be too much of an issue for the police detective who oversaw the investigation to be able to successfully authenticate the actual events on the video as reflective of the layout that he observed in the house, the location and orientation of the cameras, and so forth. They shouldn't actually need someone who was there that night to get on the stand authenticate that the video footage fully and accurately reflects how the events actually took place that night, if that makes sense. An attorney might be able to chime in, though.
There is so much confusion and misinformation about the video in this case. There have been reports that the downstairs/basement video camera was not working, and that someone (one of the students) called the company that operates/monitors the video system several days before the incident to report that the video camera was non-operational. I don't know if that is true. Seems like that should be easy to establish one way or another. Pretty hard to fabricate a call that supposedly happened two days before the event, if it in fact happened.
If it is not the case, and the video was working, I wonder how it could have been edited in the (apparently) brief time available to do it. My understanding was that the video was voluntarily handed over to the State College police shortly after Tim was taken away in the ambulance (i.e., that same morning), upon the representation by the police that they would return it to Beta when they were done with it. Then, a lengthy time passed in which Stacy Parks Miller failed to respond to requests from Beta to get their tape back, and she ultimately gave them a copy only to avoid a contempt citation. I believe she even appealed the order directing her to give it back to Beta. I believe Ms. Miller also showed a heavily edited version of the tape to the grand jury when the initial charges were first being considered, a fact that came out in the preliminary hearing when one of the defense attorneys asked whey she didn't show the entire tape, and she blew up in open court. .
Who knows what to believe when it comes to that video. I am not aware that any of the newly named defendants are females, however, so Ms. Miller must have continued with her insistence that none of the Trilogy girls had anything to do with Tim Piazza getting drunk, or with his initial fall down the stairs. That may be problematic for the prosecution if and when a trial actually takes place.
If it is not the case, and the video was working, I wonder how it could have been edited in the (apparently) brief time available to do it. My understanding was that the video was voluntarily handed over to the State College police shortly after Tim was taken away in the ambulance (i.e., that same morning), upon the representation by the police that they would return it to Beta when they were done with it. Then, a lengthy time passed in which Stacy Parks Miller failed to respond to requests from Beta to get their tape back, and she ultimately gave them a copy only to avoid a contempt citation. I believe she even appealed the order directing her to give it back to Beta. I believe Ms. Miller also showed a heavily edited version of the tape to the grand jury when the initial charges were first being considered, a fact that came out in the preliminary hearing when one of the defense attorneys asked whey she didn't show the entire tape, and she blew up in open court. .
Who knows what to believe when it comes to that video. I am not aware that any of the newly named defendants are females, however, so Ms. Miller must have continued with her insistence that none of the Trilogy girls had anything to do with Tim Piazza getting drunk, or with his initial fall down the stairs. That may be problematic for the prosecution if and when a trial actually takes place.
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I haven’t followed the Trilogy side of this—I don’t understand how they weren’t charged if they have him booze.
Why don't you STFU. You are doing exactly what you are accusing the DA of doing. Grandstanding to protect your cute little frat boys!
I'd think they'd have to have cooperated with the investigation or otherwise agreed to testify, because if what Lafayette is saying is true (and he seems to have some knowledge or has heard rumors that I haven't heard) then they should be charged. Their membership in what appears to be this underground sorority after their recognized predecessor got kicked off campus - for hazing, no less! - should garner them no sympathy. They willingly joined an organization that had been banned from campus for the very same thing that resulted in Piazza's death, and that organization is just as much of a problem in this toxic ecosystem as far as I'm concerned.
If they have the trilogy girls on tape giving alcohol to piazza, the selective prosecution is the only explanation for why they haven’t been charged (“we charge boys, not girls”). That undermines the integrity of the entire process. And, based on this koooky DA’s past performances, my expectations for integrity in this process were low to begin with.
Can we please not post about this on this board? It was not a Penn State frat, it was a frat that just happened to be near Penn State. This topic has zero relevance to Penn State or Penn State sports. Take it to the test board.
The dad is the only one who thinks he was an angel and apparently had no responsibility in this at all.
It is her job to refile charges if she feels the judge ruled incorrectly or new evidence is discovered. If she feels the judge ruled based on personal opinion and not based on the law then she should refile and request a new judge. Also if she finds new evidence she should refile those charges. Just because one judge makes a decision doesn't mean it the end all to a case. The judge is actually the one who allowed the charges to be refiled because of the way he dismissed the charges.
It’s also her job to use proper prosecutorial judgment, protect the accused constitutional rights, behave properly in court and generally not act like a border line personality bitch.
What a well thought out, and insightful reply. Your counter points are fact based and logical, and address the specific content of my post. You are sure to win over many readers with your argument.
I did, and you still can't seem to refute anything I said. It should be easy if what you say is true, but your silence is deafening.
Let's play your game. If what I said was not fact based and was nonsensical, that means you believe:
If you want to have a conversation with yourself, go for it. Just leave me out. And, that means, don't write out words and falsely attribute them to me.
If your posts keep getting dumber, you're going to have to go to the Pitt board.
Wow... you'll do anything to not support your own position. Why even respond in the first place? I see you've transitioned to insults, we all know what that means.
This entire story is disgusting and the responses here include many that are unbelievably bad and cruel. Incredible.
More insults, more distraction. Why do you desperately want to avoid defending your own opinion?
The PL assholes here trying to pin this on Joe and Penn State are incredible. These are clowns with no life.
I know... why would ANYONE join a frat after this mess?? I mean, now EVERYONE knows it's a "WOEFULLY BAD CHOICE" to join a frat.
I don't care if anyone joins a frat--I don't get it, but that's just me--I don't think it'is a bad choice. It's a shame you missed the point and fixate on something trivial.
I may have misinterpreted passedout's post, but I thought he was being sarcastic.
Who the f*ck are you and why the f*ck should we care what you think?
Many years ago, I handled a high speed police chase case. The local prosecutor was not prepared, she said, to hand over the video of the incident, even 4 months after my client's death. So, I issued a press release asking why. The press release contained some undeniable facts about how the police agency permitted Real Stories of the Highway Patrol to film the chase, which ended in my client's death.
I soon got a call from the insufferable attorney for the police agency, telling me how "disappointed" he was that i attempted to "taint the jury pool."
We had a brief chat about how what I did was WAYYYY less that what prosecutors do each time a high profile crime occurs, and they do it for no reason. I had a reason...I wanted that tape so it did not disappear.
I then explained, in the silence that followed, that there were less than a dozen people on the list of those whose disappointment in me meant anything to me, and he was not on it.
Less than 5 years later, this same guy got in trouble for participating in a scheme to prop up a state DNA witness whose testimony wrongfully convicted a bunch of innocent people of murder, among other crimes.
These people are always projecting their own sins onto others.
I soon got a call from the insufferable attorney for the police agency, telling me how "disappointed" he was that i attempted to "taint the jury pool."
We had a brief chat about how what I did was WAYYYY less that what prosecutors do each time a high profile crime occurs, and they do it for no reason. I had a reason...I wanted that tape so it did not disappear.
I then explained, in the silence that followed, that there were less than a dozen people on the list of those whose disappointment in me meant anything to me, and he was not on it.
Less than 5 years later, this same guy got in trouble for participating in a scheme to prop up a state DNA witness whose testimony wrongfully convicted a bunch of innocent people of murder, among other crimes.
These people are always projecting their own sins onto others.
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Seth Williams is very disappointed in you.
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